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Marner To Seattle

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Équipe: 2021-22 Maple Leafs de Toronto
Date de création initiale: 11 mai 2020
Publié: 11 mai 2020
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I saw this suggestion on Reddit so I’m just going to put this out there for discussion.

Honestly, Marner has not played like himself at all this season & it’s been really frustrating to watch him. I don’t think anyone questions his ability as his work ethic seems highly controversial. He just doesn’t seem to be skating hard, winning battles & getting involved in the play. Perhaps he re-aggravated his ankle sprain & is deadline with a wrist injury, but the magic has been gone from him.

The rumour was that the Leafs front office & coaching staff is sick of Marner’s antics but there are not any teams that want to acquire him. So if they want to get rid of him, they have to hope there is a CBO or they expose him to Seattle.
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*Done During 2020 Offseason - Weegar first signs 1x3.8 million dollar deal before getting long term contract
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    11 mai 2020 à 11 h 26
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    The problem is that Dubas had no spine when it came to resiging Marner
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    11 mai 2020 à 11 h 26
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    Just trade him instead of losing him for nothing
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    11 mai 2020 à 11 h 28
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    11 mai 2020 à 11 h 29
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    Quoting: KakkoForMauriceRichardAward
    The problem is that Dubas had no spine when it came to resiging Marner


    I think the blame has to be on Marner & his camp for wanting as much money as they did.
    11 mai 2020 à 11 h 29
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    This is a dumb idea
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    11 mai 2020 à 11 h 30
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    Quoting: ConnorMcHellebucyk
    Just trade him instead of losing him for nothing


    It has been speculated that teams aren’t willing to give up assets for him.
    11 mai 2020 à 11 h 30
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    Quoting: Gabriel11
    This is a dumb idea


    Giving 11 mil to Marner after just 1 elite season when the vast majority of first liner wingers made a few mil less was a dumb idea. Not trying to move Marner
    11 mai 2020 à 11 h 30
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    youre the worst leafs account on this site hands down
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    11 mai 2020 à 11 h 31
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    youre the worst leafs account on this site hands down


    No you are
    11 mai 2020 à 11 h 32
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    Sens aren't giving Brown Back.
    11 mai 2020 à 11 h 32
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    Quoting: MitchMarnerElite
    It has been speculated that teams aren’t willing to give up assets for him.


    And rightly so. TOR would need to retain at least 1,5 mil. Maybe 2 mil even
    11 mai 2020 à 11 h 33
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    Quoting: ConnorMcHellebucyk
    No you are

    wahhhhhhhh
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    11 mai 2020 à 11 h 33
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    Quoting: KakkoForMauriceRichardAward
    Giving 11 mil to Marner after just 1 elite season when the vast majority of first liner wingers made a few mil less was a dumb idea. Not trying to move Marner


    He is overpaid but trading him and not getting a good return is a bad idea
    11 mai 2020 à 11 h 34
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    Quoting: Gabriel11
    He is overpaid but trading him and not getting a good return is a bad idea


    not as bad as losing him to seattle for nothing
    11 mai 2020 à 11 h 35
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    @MitchMarnerElite "The rumour was that the Leafs front office & coaching staff is sick of Marner’s antics but there are not any teams that want to acquire him. So if they want to get rid of him, they have to hope there is a CBO or they expose him to Seattle."


    please show me this rumour and the source
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    11 mai 2020 à 11 h 39
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    you sent away Marner for nothing so you could pay Connor brown and Mackenzie weegar
    11 mai 2020 à 11 h 41
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    Quoting: dartguy22
    @MitchMarnerElite "The rumour was that the Leafs front office & coaching staff is sick of Marner’s antics but there are not any teams that want to acquire him. So if they want to get rid of him, they have to hope there is a CBO or they expose him to Seattle."


    please show me this rumour and the source


    its from reddit. I don't know why he keep bringing it up
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    11 mai 2020 à 11 h 42
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    67 pts in 59 games is not himself? Last season he had, what, 92 pts? This year if he played 82 games he would've had 93.
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    11 mai 2020 à 11 h 46
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    I don't understand all this love for Weegar. And if he's that good, why does Florida trade him. It's kind of a unpractical scenario to have a player sign a "show me contract" which brings him so close to UFA.
    Marner to Seattle. Actually I don't mind it...with the following conditions. First try to trade him in needed for a "fair return" including futures. I see the purpose of leaving him exposed and he's claimed because then the Leafs would have close to 11m to spend elsewhere. Assuming they can spend 11m better than Marner.

    Are they contenders? It's hoping that some players are unexpected better than what should be expected. I think it's time to move on from Andersen.
    You have a cap of 88m. I think salaries will be based on that. Then every player takes a 33% pay cut because the "actual" cap based on revenues will be 60m in 21/22
    11 mai 2020 à 11 h 47
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    I think it is dumb and unrealistic. I'm not going down this rabbit hole with you. No chance.
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    11 mai 2020 à 11 h 58
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    Quoting: Trevorchef
    I think it is dumb and unrealistic. I'm not going down this rabbit hole with you. No chance.


    Quoting: Trevorchef
    I think it is dumb and unrealistic. I'm not going down this rabbit hole with you. No chance.


    lol agreed. Love Marner the player, hate his contact. Waited so ****in long for the Leafs to have players like Nylander, Matthews, and Marner, on the Leafs, I would hate to see one of them traded. I'd rather Dubas find value contracts than trade one of these guys.
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    11 mai 2020 à 12 h 3
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    Quoting: KakkoForMauriceRichardAward
    Giving 11 mil to Marner after just 1 elite season when the vast majority of first liner wingers made a few mil less was a dumb idea. Not trying to move Marner


    His comparables all got 7 million x 3 years - Leafs have essentially overpaid Marner x 3 million in those first 3 years as the cap was slated to rise significantly (around 90 million) when his comparables are all up for resigning - theoretically Marner would be at the 11 mark for an additional 3 years while his comparables that took bridge deals would be commanding around the 12/13 mark as they'd be negotiating a percentage of cap and with cap hitting the high mark it was projected at the time would be priced higher than Marners current deal. That is thought process with Marner signing - Dubas certainly had a 3 year option at around the 7/8 mark but would have just pushed the cap issue down the road
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    11 mai 2020 à 12 h 8
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    Quoting: Boomer125
    His comparables all got 7 million x 3 years - Leafs have essentially overpaid Marner x 3 million in those first 3 years as the cap was slated to rise significantly (around 90 million) when his comparables are all up for resigning - theoretically Marner would be at the 11 mark for an additional 3 years while his comparables that took bridge deals would be commanding around the 12/13 mark as they'd be negotiating a percentage of cap and with cap hitting the high mark it was projected at the time would be priced higher than Marners current deal. That is thought process with Marner signing - Dubas certainly had a 3 year option at around the 7/8 mark but would have just pushed the cap issue down the road


    someone that actually understands what bridge contracts mean, thank you, everyone acting like laine, boeser, point, tkachuk etc. took "discounts"
    11 mai 2020 à 12 h 15
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    I think you have to understand that no GM may not want to take on ALL of Marner's contract. Assuming either Toronto eats some of it OR they take back some cap there will be a lineup of team willing to take Marner on.

    So this idea that no team is willing to take him on simply doesn't make sense. Two teams actively traded for Dion Phaneuf........... After he stopped being good................... I think teams can work out a way to take on Marner.

    That's all assuming Leafs front office even want to trade Marner which I don't think they do, unless a fair value trade is offered in which they have to explore it.

    If I were Montreal I would gladly take Marner off your hands for free, right now.
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    11 mai 2020 à 12 h 17
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    Quoting: MaxDomi13
    67 pts in 59 games is not himself? Last season he had, what, 92 pts? This year if he played 82 games he would've had 93.


    That is how good Marner actually is haha. Most Leafs fans would agree that he has another gear.

    People get thrown off by the contract, but at the end of the day he makes any team significantly better
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