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Équipe: 2020-21 Rangers de New York
Date de création initiale: 9 mai 2020
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    10 mai 2020 à 22 h 49
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    Pipe down my guy. I love adding Ehlers and Sergachev dough
    10 mai 2020 à 22 h 50
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    I mean edm could just trade pulu and a 2nd for strome if that’s the case..? Also jets say no.
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    10 mai 2020 à 22 h 51
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    As a Canadian I get PTSD every time I see the name «Troy Terry»
    10 mai 2020 à 22 h 57
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    8 trades, 7 failures.
    10 mai 2020 à 23 h 8
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    Modifié 10 mai 2020 à 23 h 14
    Quoting: Cheddamonkey37
    I mean edm could just trade pulu and a 2nd for strome if that’s the case..? Also jets say no.


    Theoretically yes! though I think their only 2nd left is 2022...also I'm not sure how useful he'd be in Edmonton. He's been really poor at wing, so he needs to be at C, and he needs to be with very strong offensive linemates to produce. Seems like bringing him into be a 3C would be a recipe for disaster like it was when they brought his brother in and stuck him with guys like Khaira and Puljujarvi and expected him to produce like Eberle did in a top 6 role.

    So I don't think they'd target him unless they brought other top 6 pieces.

    Also gonna disagree with ya there. Strome with Laine is an awesome match, his value is around a 1st. So it comes out to Ehlers for 2 1sts + Howden.

    Over the last 2 seasons, Ehlers has 95 points, Strome has 94. Strome had Panarin for 1 season and the other season had Jimmy Vesey and Jujhar Khaira, Ehlers had 1 season with Wheeler and Roslovic and 1 season with Wheeler and Scheifele. Edge to Ehlers in terms of teammate quality across 2 seasons....

    I think the value is fair.
    10 mai 2020 à 23 h 35
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    Quoting: Sagecoll
    Theoretically yes! though I think their only 2nd left is 2022...also I'm not sure how useful he'd be in Edmonton. He's been really poor at wing, so he needs to be at C, and he needs to be with very strong offensive linemates to produce. Seems like bringing him into be a 3C would be a recipe for disaster like it was when they brought his brother in and stuck him with guys like Khaira and Puljujarvi and expected him to produce like Eberle did in a top 6 role.

    So I don't think they'd target him unless they brought other top 6 pieces.

    Also gonna disagree with ya there. Strome with Laine is an awesome match, his value is around a 1st. So it comes out to Ehlers for 2 1sts + Howden.

    Over the last 2 seasons, Ehlers has 95 points, Strome has 94. Strome had Panarin for 1 season and the other season had Jimmy Vesey and Jujhar Khaira, Ehlers had 1 season with Wheeler and Roslovic and 1 season with Wheeler and Scheifele. Edge to Ehlers in terms of teammate quality across 2 seasons....

    I think the value is fair.


    I mean your theory with the edm thing is ridiculous strome playing with mcdavid would work great him playing on the wing wouldn’t matter at all and strome has done nothing with every team he’s played for except when he’s played with panarin.. who is arguably the best winger in the league rn must be closer if strome can actually carry the play and a line which I haven’t seen yet..
    11 mai 2020 à 0 h 1
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    Quoting: Cheddamonkey37
    I mean your theory with the edm thing is ridiculous strome playing with mcdavid would work great him playing on the wing wouldn’t matter at all and strome has done nothing with every team he’s played for except when he’s played with panarin.. who is arguably the best winger in the league rn must be closer if strome can actually carry the play and a line which I haven’t seen yet..


    I mean if that's what you want. I'd probably consult with the Chicago fans who watched him struggle at the wing this season....and that was with Patrick Kane lol.
    And no Strome has not struggled with every team he's played with hahah. He did struggle in Edmonton with 4th liners. Though I'd love to see Ehlers' point production with Gustafsson and Shore lol. That's basically what Strome was playing with in Edmonton without any PP1 time.
    I mean if you want to equate things,
    Strome averaged 1.8 pts/60 with the Islanders at Even Strength playing on the 3rd line on the 2nd PP unit occasionally from 19-23 years old.
    Ehlers averaged 2.05 pts/60 with the Jets at Even Strength playing almost exclusively in the top 6 and on the 2nd PP unit from 19-23 years old.

    Strome has not yet shown he can carry a line yet.....and neither has Ehlers. The main difference is that Strome has been put with inferior linemates and Ehlers has not. That's basically it. Again....they've put up the same amount of points over the last 2 seasons with the same quality of teammates.
    11 mai 2020 à 0 h 5
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    I mean if that's what you want. I'd probably consult with the Chicago fans who watched him struggle at the wing this season....and that was with Patrick Kane lol.
    And no Strome has not struggled with every team he's played with hahah. He did struggle in Edmonton with 4th liners. Though I'd love to see Ehlers' point production with Gustafsson and Shore lol. That's basically what Strome was playing with in Edmonton without any PP1 time.
    I mean if you want to equate things,
    Strome averaged 1.8 pts/60 with the Islanders at Even Strength playing on the 3rd line on the 2nd PP unit occasionally from 19-23 years old.
    Ehlers averaged 2.05 pts/60 with the Jets at Even Strength playing almost exclusively in the top 6 and on the 2nd PP unit from 19-23 years old.

    Strome has not yet shown he can carry a line yet.....and neither has Ehlers. The main difference is that Strome has been put with inferior linemates and Ehlers has not. That's basically it. Again....they've put up the same amount of points over the last 2 seasons with the same quality of teammates.


    Ok put strome at c and have nuge or Leon on his wing problem solved pal edm can easily make that trade and ehlers shows way more promise then strome btw he’s never played a full season with scheif and wheeler mostly little when healthy so idk where u got that from also how is that the same quality line mates strome plays with probably the best winger in the game rn
    11 mai 2020 à 0 h 19
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    The problem with Strome for the Jets is that there is no way he can consistently be a 50-60 pt player for the Jets. He will probably get around 3-4 less minutes per game than he is right now with the Rangers, he will be getting very little PP time, and obviously won't have Panarin. I also don't see him coming close to replicating Ehlers' production at 5v5, Ehlers is 10th in 5v5 scoring this year and 13th in 5v5 scoring/60. That P/60 rate is above players like Kane, Crosby, Matthews, and Huberdeau just to name a few forwards. He's one of the best 5v5 forwards right now and would be PPG/PPG+ if he actually got PP1 time. I just don't see why the Jets would do this.
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    11 mai 2020 à 1 h 1
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    Quoting: Spleenmaster1002
    The problem with Strome for the Jets is that there is no way he can consistently be a 50-60 pt player for the Jets. He will probably get around 3-4 less minutes per game than he is right now with the Rangers, he will be getting very little PP time, and obviously won't have Panarin. I also don't see him coming close to replicating Ehlers' production at 5v5, Ehlers is 10th in 5v5 scoring this year and 13th in 5v5 scoring/60. That P/60 rate is above players like Kane, Crosby, Matthews, and Huberdeau just to name a few forwards. He's one of the best 5v5 forwards right now and would be PPG/PPG+ if he actually got PP1 time. I just don't see why the Jets would do this.


    He’s arguably the 2nd best play driver on the jets as well. I’d take ehlers over Connor.
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    11 mai 2020 à 1 h 3
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    Quoting: Sagecoll
    Theoretically yes! though I think their only 2nd left is 2022...also I'm not sure how useful he'd be in Edmonton. He's been really poor at wing, so he needs to be at C, and he needs to be with very strong offensive linemates to produce. Seems like bringing him into be a 3C would be a recipe for disaster like it was when they brought his brother in and stuck him with guys like Khaira and Puljujarvi and expected him to produce like Eberle did in a top 6 role.

    So I don't think they'd target him unless they brought other top 6 pieces.

    Also gonna disagree with ya there. Strome with Laine is an awesome match, his value is around a 1st. So it comes out to Ehlers for 2 1sts + Howden.

    Over the last 2 seasons, Ehlers has 95 points, Strome has 94. Strome had Panarin for 1 season and the other season had Jimmy Vesey and Jujhar Khaira, Ehlers had 1 season with Wheeler and Roslovic and 1 season with Wheeler and Scheifele. Edge to Ehlers in terms of teammate quality across 2 seasons....

    I think the value is fair.


    We have no reason to trade ehlers, besides scheifele he’s our best forward
    11 mai 2020 à 1 h 4
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    Modifié 11 mai 2020 à 1 h 9
    Quoting: Cheddamonkey37
    Ok put strome at c and have nuge or Leon on his wing problem solved pal edm can easily make that trade and ehlers shows way more promise then strome btw he’s never played a full season with scheif and wheeler mostly little when healthy so idk where u got that from also how is that the same quality line mates strome plays with probably the best winger in the game rn


    Sure you can do that!

    Here's where you can find some linemate data.

    15-16: Half of his TOI with Scheif -- https://hockeyviz.com/fixedImg/spider/1516/WPG/ehlerni96/wrap
    16-17: Half of his TOI with Scheif, almost half with Laine -- https://hockeyviz.com/fixedImg/spider/1617/WPG/ehlerni96/wrap
    17-18: 60% of his TOI with Laine, over half with Little -- https://hockeyviz.com/fixedImg/spider/1718/WPG/ehlerni96/wrap
    18-19: Half of his TOI with Scheif, almost half with Wheeler --- https://hockeyviz.com/fixedImg/spider/1819/WPG/ehlerni96/wrap
    19-20: Over half of his TOI with Wheeler, almost half with Roslovic --- https://hockeyviz.com/fixedImg/spider/1920/WPG/ehlerni96/wrap

    Strome
    17-18: All over the place, but the only F's with more than 200 mins with him are Khaira, Lucic, Caggiula, and Puljujarvi. https://hockeyviz.com/fixedImg/spider/1718/EDM/stromry93/wrap
    18-19 (Oilers): Only 200 mins played. But 60% of that was with Lucic lol https://hockeyviz.com/fixedImg/spider/1819/EDM/stromry93/wrap
    18-19 (Rangers): Only about 500 mins played, All over the place: Top 4 F linemates were Chytil, Vesey, Fast, Howden. https://hockeyviz.com/fixedImg/spider/1819/NYR/stromry93/wrap
    19-20: over 70% with Panarin, Over 55% with Fast https://hockeyviz.com/fixedImg/spider/1920/NYR/stromry93/wrap


    So with that in mind:
    Ehlers linemates in 2018-19 average 1.07 pts/gm in 19-20 that goes to 0.67 pts/gm
    In 2018-19 Stromes linemates average 0.41 pts/gm, in 19-20 that goes to 0.9 pts/gm

    Over the last 2 years, that gives the edge to Ehlers...
    11 mai 2020 à 1 h 5
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    Quoting: Spleenmaster1002
    The problem with Strome for the Jets is that there is no way he can consistently be a 50-60 pt player for the Jets. He will probably get around 3-4 less minutes per game than he is right now with the Rangers, he will be getting very little PP time, and obviously won't have Panarin. I also don't see him coming close to replicating Ehlers' production at 5v5, Ehlers is 10th in 5v5 scoring this year and 13th in 5v5 scoring/60. That P/60 rate is above players like Kane, Crosby, Matthews, and Huberdeau just to name a few forwards. He's one of the best 5v5 forwards right now and would be PPG/PPG+ if he actually got PP1 time. I just don't see why the Jets would do this.


    That's why the Rangers are adding a 1st and Howden.....

    Strome will have Laine. He'll be fine.
    11 mai 2020 à 1 h 10
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    We have no reason to trade ehlers, besides scheifele he’s our best forward


    If he was any worse I wouldn't pay as much....
    11 mai 2020 à 1 h 11
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    Quoting: bunzy1034
    We have no reason to trade ehlers, besides scheifele he’s our best forward


    Last season , ehlers had a “down” year, but he was still effective.

    Little with ehlers : 54.36 % CF , 55.39% xGF
    Little without ehlers : 45.67% CF, 42.74 xGF
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    11 mai 2020 à 8 h 32
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    8 trades, 7 failures.


    Yeah no doubt, Sergachev trade is garbage. I like how this guy thinks that Trouba is returning a 1st round pick with hat contract.
    11 mai 2020 à 18 h 14
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    Yeah no doubt, Sergachev trade is garbage. I like how this guy thinks that Trouba is returning a 1st round pick with hat contract.


    Aside from that Oleksiak trade all of them are garbage.
     
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