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Laffy and Sergachev offer sheet

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9 mai 2020 à 23 h 2
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I doubt that Yzerman will offer sheet anyone that requires a first round pick involved. The Red Wings are still a lottery team even with Sergachev and Lafreniere. Would make much sense for them to offer sheet with a possible 1st overall pick involved.
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I want Serg too but that’s to high a price to pay. Maybe a trade involving Cholo or a prospect and a pair of seconds or a protected 1st something but this team still lacks a lot of depth to be a playoff contender.
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9 mai 2020 à 23 h 14
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Quoting: Sebybbq
I doubt that Yzerman will offer sheet anyone that requires a first round pick involved. The Red Wings are still a lottery team even with Sergachev and Lafreniere. Would make much sense for them to offer sheet with a possible 1st overall pick involved.


For sure. Definitely risky. I'm not suggesting this will happen, but it would be a pretty bold move that could have huge upside.
The Sergachev situation is really interesting in my opinion because he is a #1 Dman who may not be able to get signed out of his ELC.

He has learned from Hedman and played in a winning culture for three years... Could be worth the risk. Not everyday you get a chance to pick up a player like that
9 mai 2020 à 23 h 22
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For sure. Definitely risky. I'm not suggesting this will happen, but it would be a pretty bold move that could have huge upside.
The Sergachev situation is really interesting in my opinion because he is a #1 Dman who may not be able to get signed out of his ELC.

He has learned from Hedman and played in a winning culture for three years... Could be worth the risk. Not everyday you get a chance to pick up a player like that


I am sorry to break your Bubble but Sergachev isn’t a number 1 defenseman. He sure have a great potential, but haven’t played a primary role yet. He have a good offensive potential but have not been use in Defensive mission that much in Tampa Bay. He was just over 20 min this year in ice time and that was a huge increase from the prior years. There is no guarantee that he can flourish into a 25 min solid 2 way defenseman since he never been use in that role at the moment. I get your point here that Sergachev would be a interesting pick for Detroit but if they get him it will probably be via trade. The first round pick is way to much valuable.
9 mai 2020 à 23 h 25
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I want Serg too but that’s to high a price to pay. Maybe a trade involving Cholo or a prospect and a pair of seconds or a protected 1st something but this team still lacks a lot of depth to be a playoff contender.


I just think Sergachev is getting offer sheeted... TB is gonna offer like a 3 year deal at 5.5m. Other teams could blow that away with a 7.5 x 5 easy.
9 mai 2020 à 23 h 27
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I am sorry to break your Bubble but Sergachev isn’t a number 1 defenseman. He sure have a great potential, but haven’t played a primary role yet. He have a good offensive potential but have not been use in Defensive mission that much in Tampa Bay. He was just over 20 min this year in ice time and that was a huge increase from the prior years. There is no guarantee that he can flourish into a 25 min solid 2 way defenseman since he never been use in that role at the moment. I get your point here that Sergachev would be a interesting pick for Detroit but if they get him it will probably be via trade. The first round pick is way to much valuable.


He isn't currently a #1, but anyone with foresight should be able to see that he'll become one. Thats my opinion anyway
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He isn't currently a #1, but anyone with foresight should be able to see that he'll become one. Thats my opinion anyway


I respect that opinion! But there no tangible proof of Him becoming a number 1 defenseman. That only your hope and presuming foresighting ability’s. So don’t be condescend when you answer back.
9 mai 2020 à 23 h 45
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I respect that opinion! But there no tangible proof of Him becoming a number 1 defenseman. That only your hope and presuming foresighting ability’s. So don’t be condescend when you answer back.


Apologies if that sounded condescending. Wasn't trying to be.
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Quoting: Sebybbq
I respect that opinion! But there no tangible proof of Him becoming a number 1 defenseman. That only your hope and presuming foresighting ability’s. So don’t be condescend when you answer back.


If Sergachev isn't a #1D how many #1D are there in the league? By definition there should be 31. Sergachev is in the top 31 already. He is 21 yrs old and has over 100 career pts. By the end of the season he was the #2 guy in TB (one of the top teams in the leage) only behind Hedman who is arguably the best D in the league.

Theres no tangible proof? What is that even supposed to mean? Name 30 better defenseman than Sergachev, he's at ~30 on my list already.

Talk about being condescending when you're the one who's all "sorry to burst your bubble".
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10 mai 2020 à 0 h 0
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If Sergachev isn't a #1D how many #1D are there in the league? By definition there should be 31. Sergachev is in the top 31 already. He is 21 yrs old and has over 100 career pts. By the end of the season he was the #2 guy in TB (one of the top teams in the leage) only behind Hedman who is arguably the best D in the league.

Theres no tangible proof? What is that even supposed to mean? Name 30 better defenseman than Sergachev, he's at ~20 on my list.

Talk about being condescending when you're the one who's all "sorry to burst your bubble".


Hedman, Josi, Jones, Pietrangelo, Parayko, Werenski, Provorov, Morrissey, Hugues, Makar, Petry, Weber, Rielly, Muzzin, Ekblad, Slavin, Hamilton, Giordanno, Doughty, Karlsson, Burns, Chabot, Klefbom, Theodore, Carlson, Letangs, Macvoy, Pesce, Ekman Larsson, Dumoulin, Heiskanen, Dahlin, Ellis, Ekholm, Pulock, Klingberg, Lindholm, is that enough
10 mai 2020 à 0 h 2
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Using Mcdonough as a point of comparison to Sergachev doesn't provide the most credibility... As I said before Serg is def capable of being a teams #1 dman


Yeah, TB happens to have 3 first pairing defenseman on their team. McDonagh was a #1 with the rangers, Hedman is a #1 anywhere in the league, and Sergachev would definently be the #1 on Detroit.
10 mai 2020 à 0 h 3
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Using Mcdonough as a point of comparison to Sergachev doesn't provide the most credibility... As I said before Serg is def capable of being a teams #1 dman


Have he ever been a 1 d man? He might have the potential but for now no one know since he never been use in that role. Mcdonagh have been use in that role for over 8 years now. He was the top shutdown guy in New York. Sergachev havent proove anything yet. Like i said he sure have a great potential but for the moment he haven’t earn that role.
10 mai 2020 à 0 h 6
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Using Mcdonough as a point of comparison to Sergachev doesn't provide the most credibility... As I said before Serg is def capable of being a teams #1 dman


You want to talk about credibility! How about making a offer sheet for sergachev who is probably involved a lottery pick. How is that making you any credible?
10 mai 2020 à 0 h 8
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Hedman, Josi, Jones, Pietrangelo, Parayko, Werenski, Provorov, Morrissey, Hugues, Makar, Petry, Weber, Rielly, Muzzin, Ekblad, Slavin, Hamilton, Giordanno, Doughty, Karlsson, Burns, Chabot, Klefbom, Theodore, Carlson, Letangs, Macvoy, Pesce, Ekman Larsson, Dumoulin, Heiskanen, Dahlin, Ellis, Ekholm, Pulock, Klingberg, Lindholm, is that enough


It's debatable, why would you present it as fact, do you think you know everything?

My list (based on play this season): Hamilton, Carlson, Josi, Ellis, Edler, Hedman, Krug, Makar, Letang, Pionk, Pietrangelo, Theodore, Klefbom, Nurse, Giordano, DeAngelo, Fox, Weber, Jones, Werenski, McAvoy, Burns, Muzzin, Trouba, Petry, Ristolainen, Pulock, Sergachev (28th), Provorov, Reilly, Niskanen

My list is also debatable. Sergachev is argueably a #1D. Just because you say "sorry to burst your bubble" does not make it so.
10 mai 2020 à 0 h 10
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Have he ever been a 1 d man? He might have the potential but for now no one know since he never been use in that role. Mcdonagh have been use in that role for over 8 years now. He was the top shutdown guy in New York. Sergachev havent proove anything yet. Like i said he sure have a great potential but for the moment he haven’t earn that role.


That's like saying "i dont know if the Oilers should have drafted that guy 1st overall he hasnt proven he can be a number 1C in the NHL yet". He's shown at worst he is a 1st pairing D already. He is only 21. It's highly likely he will be a #1D, even if he isn't already.
10 mai 2020 à 0 h 14
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Take a second to read and understand before replying. I said, by the end of the season he was their #2. He only played 20 seconds less than McDonagh on average throughout the year.

Icetime in the league doesnt mean anything. If you put the 6 best defenseman in the league on the same team there is only 60 minutes to be divided up among them. Does that mean they aren't the best defenceman anymore?

You're the biggest troll on this site, you cant come up with anything so you throw out things like "think before you are condescending" and "you have proven how irrelevant you are, bye bye".

Do you think anyone buys what you are saying?


Actually i do think that people buy what i said since its make sense. And people seem to like what i have to say. That doesn’t seem to be your case. There not much people who like your post because like always you dont have much content and just troll around. Bye bye
10 mai 2020 à 0 h 22
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Of course you think that. Toodaloo


A 1264 people seem to agree with me and there not much people on your side 381. Actually that give you a good idea!
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10 mai 2020 à 0 h 22
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You want to talk about credibility! How about making a offer sheet for sergachev who is probably involved a lottery pick. How is that making you any credible?


You hope to draft a player like Sergachev. It is not a forgone conclusion that Detroit will get last place next year, especially if they add Lafreniere and Sergachev.

So why do you act like its assured DET will have a lottery pick, but then contradict yourself by saying "there's no proof Sergachev will be a #1D because it hasn't happened yet!"
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10 mai 2020 à 0 h 25
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why is Nemeth the 7th guy.
Especially given DeKeyser is on IR like every year. Honestly I think he would play more if he wasn't on detroit.
10 mai 2020 à 0 h 27
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That exactly what they have done with Yakupov, or Ottawa with Daigle, or The Islanders with Dipietro they drafted them because they had potential but that never translates to Nhl Expectations. Jack Hugues have some incredible potential, bit he haven’t prove anything yet, he might never fulfill expectations. Why would Sergachev would be a number 1 defenseman when he never fill that role. How can he be better at that job that Defenseman who are doiinh that job at the Moment playing big minutes. Explain me that since you are So smart


"Why would Sergachev would be a number 1 defenseman when he never fills that role."

So long as Hedman is healthy in TB Sergachev is never going to play his role on that team. Hedman is arguably the top defense man in the NHL. Any bozo could see Sergachev would be the #1D on plenty of other teams in the NHL.

For example, you and I both had Petry and Weber ahead of Sergachev on our lists, but if MTL were to offersheet Sergachev he would probably become MTL's #1D next season.
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It's debatable, why would you present it as fact, do you think you know everything?

My list (based on play this season): Hamilton, Carlson, Josi, Ellis, Edler, Hedman, Krug, Makar, Letang, Pionk, Pietrangelo, Theodore, Klefbom, Nurse, Giordano, DeAngelo, Fox, Weber, Jones, Werenski, McAvoy, Burns, Muzzin, Trouba, Petry, Ristolainen, Pulock, Sergachev (28th), Provorov, Reilly, Niskanen

My list is also debatable. Sergachev is argueably a #1D. Just because you say "sorry to burst your bubble" does not make it so.


So Deangelo who barely played 19 minutes a night, who have played a grand total of 5 min of Penalty Kill all year long. Who average 65% of is start in the offensive zone is a rank at 16th. That explain a lot
10 mai 2020 à 0 h 28
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You hope to draft a player like Sergachev. It is not a forgone conclusion that Detroit will get last place next year, especially if they add Lafreniere and Sergachev.

So why do you act like its assured DET will have a lottery pick, but then contradict yourself by saying "there's no proof Sergachev will be a #1D because it hasn't happened yet!"


So Detroit is making the playoff next year?
10 mai 2020 à 0 h 30
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So Deangelo who barely played 19 minutes a night, who have played a grand total of 5 min of Penalty Kill all year long. Who average 65% of is start in the offensive zone is a rank at 16th. That explain a lot


Based on play last year? Yes, DeAngelo was damn good.
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So Detroit is making the playoff next year?


Is that what I said? No, I'm suggesting that if DET added Lafrenniere its possible they aren't a lottery team (in other words top 3 pick). In your words, "theres no tangible proof it hasnt happened yet".
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"Why would Sergachev would be a number 1 defenseman when he never fills that role."

So long as Hedman is healthy in TB Sergachev is never going to play his role on that team. Hedman is arguably the top defense man in the NHL. Any bozo could see Sergachev would be the #1D on plenty of other teams in the NHL.

For example, you and I both had Petry and Weber ahead of Sergachev on our lists, but if MTL were to offersheet Sergachev he would probably become MTL's #1D next season.


Maybe but he could actually be what he is right now and that would be a top 4 defenseman!
 
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