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Équipe: 2020-21 Canadiens de Montréal
Date de création initiale: 8 mai 2020
Publié: 8 mai 2020
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On donne surement trop pour Lindholm mais avec tous les prospects que les Habs ont ils peuvent se le permettre.
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  1. Domi, Max [Droits de RFA]
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8 mai 2020 à 10 h 10
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Ah bon? «Tous les prospects que les Habs ont»? Parce que je pensais qu'un virage jeunesse/reconstruction requiert toujours plus de prospects...

Ah yes, «with all the prospects the Habs have»? Because I thought a rebuild needed every prospect you can have...
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8 mai 2020 à 10 h 11
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Anaheim maroont, c'est vraiment nul. Je pense que Domi + 1st + Kotkaniemi est plus realiste parce que Lindholm est extremement bien.
8 mai 2020 à 10 h 13
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Lindholm, je ne pense pas qu’on se fait échanger. Aussi, je suis très bon à Français donc j’espère que vous comprenez cela. Retour à Lindholm. Il serait probablement coûter beaucoup plus pour lui car il est un défenseur de jumelage haut. Mais tout le reste est bon ici

Lindholm I don't think is getting traded. Also I am very good at French so I hope you understand this. Back to Lindholm. It would probably cost a lot more for him as he is a top pairing defenseman. But everything else is good here
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8 mai 2020 à 10 h 19
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Honnêtement, je le ferais pas. Si on se fie aux analyses Per Hagglund, Norlinder a tout pour devenir un défenseur élite (qui a d'ailleurs prédit le succès d'Olofsson, des Sedins, d'Hedman, etc.). Le choix de première ronde pourrait encore être top 15. Beaucoup trop cher payé à mon avis.
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8 mai 2020 à 10 h 19
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Pourquoi les chaises?
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8 mai 2020 à 10 h 24
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Lindholm, je ne pense pas qu’on se fait échanger. Aussi, je suis très bon à Français donc j’espère que vous comprenez cela. Retour à Lindholm. Il serait probablement coûter beaucoup plus pour lui car il est un défenseur de jumelage haut. Mais tout le reste est bon ici

Lindholm I don't think is getting traded. Also I am very good at French so I hope you understand this. Back to Lindholm. It would probably cost a lot more for him as he is a top pairing defenseman. But everything else is good here


Hollllyy shhh...ttt would Montreal NEVER offer that much for Lindholm!!! You obviously don't know the potential of Norlinder. High ceiling. Would now be in the 1st round if the draft was re-done. Poehling, solid prospect, 1st rounder. Domi 1st rounder, solid young player. Plus a 1st round pick? Plus we take on the weight of Kesler's contract. Anaheim is laughing all the way. Extraordinary bad trade for Montreal. Anaheim would be absolutely stone cold crazy to say no. But Bergevin would never, ever, ever in a million years offer that much for Lindholm.
8 mai 2020 à 10 h 27
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Quoting: keep_ups12
Lindholm, je ne pense pas qu’on se fait échanger. Aussi, je suis très bon à Français donc j’espère que vous comprenez cela. Retour à Lindholm. Il serait probablement coûter beaucoup plus pour lui car il est un défenseur de jumelage haut. Mais tout le reste est bon ici

Lindholm I don't think is getting traded. Also I am very good at French so I hope you understand this. Back to Lindholm. It would probably cost a lot more for him as he is a top pairing defenseman. But everything else is good here


Thank for your effort. Actually it was pretty good French. Its such a difficult language, even people that have been speaking it all their life don’t quite master it ahah.
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8 mai 2020 à 10 h 28
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Thank for your effort. Actually it was pretty good French. Its such a difficult language, even people that have been speaking it all their life don’t quite master it ahah.


Il est Québécois aussi hahah

Edit : Je pensais que t'avais quote @KakkoForMauriceRichardAward my bad
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8 mai 2020 à 10 h 30
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Hollllyy shhh...ttt would Montreal NEVER offer that much for Lindholm!!! You obviously don't know the potential of Norlinder. High ceiling. Would now be in the 1st round if the draft was re-done. Poehling, solid prospect, 1st rounder. Domi 1st rounder, solid young player. Plus a 1st round pick? Plus we take on the weight of Kesler's contract. Anaheim is laughing all the way. Extraordinary bad trade for Montreal. Anaheim would be absolutely stone cold crazy to say no. But Bergevin would never, ever, ever in a million years offer that much for Lindholm.


But they still only prospect! Norlinder And Poehling are no guarantee success. LIndholm is one of the best defenseman in the league. Play top minutes, is advance stats are excellent considering that he is use mostly in defensive attribution.
8 mai 2020 à 10 h 33
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But they still only prospect! Norlinder And Poehling are no guarantee success. LIndholm is one of the best defenseman in the league. Play top minutes, is advance stats are excellent considering that he is use mostly in defensive attribution.


One of the fastest 'no' Bergevin could ever muster, trust me. You don't give 4 1st rounders for a 20+ points left defensemen, when the Habs have a ton of LD in the pipeline. In 2-3 years, it's the right side of the defense that will be severely lacking.
8 mai 2020 à 10 h 34
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But they still only prospect! Norlinder And Poehling are no guarantee success. LIndholm is one of the best defenseman in the league. Play top minutes, is advance stats are excellent considering that he is use mostly in defensive attribution.


Remove Kesler. Remove Norlinder. Change the 1st to a 2nd. And then maybe there's something to talk about. Maybe Habs add a 5th round.

So Limp-holm, versus Domi, Poehling, a 2nd and a 5th.
8 mai 2020 à 10 h 36
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Anaheim maroont, c'est vraiment nul. Je pense que Domi + 1st + Kotkaniemi est plus realiste parce que Lindholm est extremement bien.


Calm down With Kotkaniemi. The package is already extremely valuable. Kotkaniemi hold much more value, even with is difficult year. He is still 19 years old and have ton’s of potential. Lindholm have only 2 years left to is contract and have been a elite defensive defenseman but is lack of offense doesn’t make him that mich valuable. Norlinder is a top 4 defenseman prospect with a very bright futur, Domi is a established top 6 center and Poehling have interesting top 9 upside with a first round pick that a extremely great package. Ottawa haven’t even received that from San jose (i know they get sanjose 3 rd overall but wasn’t supposed to be that pick)
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8 mai 2020 à 10 h 37
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One of the fastest 'no' Bergevin could ever muster, trust me. You don't give 4 1st rounders for a 20+ points left defensemen, when the Habs have a ton of LD in the pipeline. In 2-3 years, it's the right side of the defense that will be severely lacking.


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Remove Kesler. Remove Norlinder. Change the 1st to a 2nd. And then maybe there's something to talk about. Maybe Habs add a 5th round.

So Limp-holm, versus Domi, Poehling, a 2nd and a 5th.


I an done with you when you have something brilliant to say then ill consider it.
8 mai 2020 à 10 h 39
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I an done with you when you have something brilliant to say then ill consider it.


Sorry buddy, didn't want to offend you. Seriously.

You're right. He's a great defenseman. Habs would love to have him. I just thought it was a bit over priced from the Habs perspective, that's all.

Hope you're doing well in this whole lockdown stuff. Can't wait for hockey to be back!

Sorry again.
8 mai 2020 à 10 h 42
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Calm down With Kotkaniemi. The package is already extremely valuable. Kotkaniemi hold much more value, even with is difficult year. He is still 19 years old and have ton’s of potential. Lindholm have only 2 years left to is contract and have been a elite defensive defenseman but is lack of offense doesn’t make him that mich valuable. Norlinder is a top 4 defenseman prospect with a very bright futur, Domi is a established top 6 center and Poehling have interesting top 9 upside with a first round pick that a extremely great package. Ottawa haven’t even received that from San jose (i know they get sanjose 3 rd overall but wasn’t supposed to be that pick)


1st of all, thank you. My french is VERY lacklustre. That said, Lindholm defensively is (bold claim) the best D man imo. I think there is no one better than him in his own zone, and I'm a Canes fan who loves Jaccob Slavin and Brett Pesce. In order to acquire such an elite defensive talent, you're going to have to part with a lot of value. Domi is an RFA about to get overpaid big time. Kotkaniemi's value is at an all time low. He was a reach at that 3rd overall pick and he's still a prospect. The 1st is just standard to acquire someone of such talent. If you don't like it, Lindholm isn't an option because even Bob Murray, as dumb as he is, recognises the value of Lindholm (as well as Fowler and Manson)
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8 mai 2020 à 10 h 53
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1st of all, thank you. My french is VERY lacklustre. That said, Lindholm defensively is (bold claim) the best D man imo. I think there is no one better than him in his own zone, and I'm a Canes fan who loves Jaccob Slavin and Brett Pesce. In order to acquire such an elite defensive talent, you're going to have to part with a lot of value. Domi is an RFA about to get overpaid big time. Kotkaniemi's value is at an all time low. He was a reach at that 3rd overall pick and he's still a prospect. The 1st is just standard to acquire someone of such talent. If you don't like it, Lindholm isn't an option because even Bob Murray, as dumb as he is, recognises the value of Lindholm (as well as Fowler and Manson)


Kotkaniemi value is still incredibly high even if you think he is not. Go check Leon Draistail stats at the same age then Kotkaniemi and tell me that a 19 years old lid doesn’t hold value. People must stop with that non sense. Lindholm is Ufa in 2 years Murray might loose him for absolutely nothing since the Ducks aint goiing anywhere. The Fact that Karlsson didn’t get such return Make my case even more viable. This return is more then Enough.
And yeah i appreciate for the French word i have had some bad time with xenophobic moron around here!
8 mai 2020 à 10 h 59
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But they still only prospect! Norlinder And Poehling are no guarantee success. LIndholm is one of the best defenseman in the league. Play top minutes, is advance stats are excellent considering that he is use mostly in defensive attribution.


Cest ca man! Le monde sur AGM mets beaucoup de valeur sur les prospects. Mais en realiter on sait jamais

Cest quand meme beaucoup, mais Je croois sincerement que le gagnant de n'importe quel trades est lequipe qui decroche le meilleur joueur. Avoir lindolhm et Weber ensemble seraient un des meilleurs duo de la league..
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8 mai 2020 à 11 h 3
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Cest ca man! on sait jamais avec les prospects.

cest beaucoup, mais Je croois sincerement que le gagnant de n'importe quel trades est lequipe qui decroche le meilleur joueur. Avoir lindolhm et Weber ensemble seraient un des meilleurs duo de la league..


C’est sur que Montréal a finalement son premier Défenseur Gaucher avec Lindholm il peut jouer des grosses minutes contre n’importe qui. Son apport offensif est limité mais avec Weber et Petry on est deja pas mal. Par contre Anaheim recoit quand meme un excellent retour pour continuer leur rebuilt.
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