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Équipe: 2020-21 Penguins de Pittsburgh
Date de création initiale: 6 mai 2020
Publié: 6 mai 2020
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6 mai 2020 à 15 h 50
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Ah, you sure got us. Good one, man. That's a real rib tickler right there.
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6 mai 2020 à 15 h 58
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“Guentzel plays with crosby, so his value isn’t high”
6 mai 2020 à 16 h 20
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Nope. We just want fair value for our 94 point 22 year old superstar, that's pretty much all.
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6 mai 2020 à 16 h 20
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“Guentzel plays with crosby, so his value isn’t high”

no leafs fan has ever said that. Guentzel is very good, on the Nylander tier of wingers. He might even be a bit better
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6 mai 2020 à 16 h 22
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no leafs fan has ever said that. Guentzel is very good, on the Nylander tier of wingers. He might even be a bit better.


Thats the typical statement made about Guentzel on this site. He cant do anything without crosby or malkin. Hes only scoring because of the center he plays with
6 mai 2020 à 16 h 28
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Thats the typical statement made about Guentzel on this site. He cant do anything without crosby or malkin. Hes only scoring because of the center he plays with


it was a while ago, but I don't know many people who say that now. I mean obviously his numbers are inflated a tad due to playing with those players, but so are the numbers of all complimentary stars that need to play with the best players. Not a diss against guentzel either- Nylander is a complementary star as well, in that he's do fine on his own, but to play at a stars level he needs to play with stars
6 mai 2020 à 16 h 36
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What is this in response to? Not giving up Marner for C level prospects and a late 1st or 2 seconds? Not giving Kapanen for a bottom pairing D and a 4th?
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6 mai 2020 à 16 h 44
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Quoting: leafs101
it was a while ago, but I don't know many people who say that now. I mean obviously his numbers are inflated a tad due to playing with those players, but so are the numbers of all complimentary stars that need to play with the best players. Not a diss against guentzel either- Nylander is a complementary star as well, in that he's do fine on his own, but to play at a stars level he needs to play with stars


Dude Guentzel is better than Marner.
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6 mai 2020 à 16 h 46
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Quoting: MitchMarnerElite
Dude Guentzel is better than Marner.


dude nope. Marner has better production playing with worse players for most, if not all of his career. Also a strong penalty killer
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6 mai 2020 à 17 h 14
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Quoting: leafs101
dude nope. Marner has better production playing with worse players for most, if not all of his career. Also a strong penalty killer


Guentzel is not as good defensively as Marner but he is better at driving the play. He generates more shots & offensive zone possession. Plus he scores way more goals & was scoring at a 90 point pace too!
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6 mai 2020 à 17 h 15
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Quoting: hockeyfanatic05
That's the typical statement made about Guentzel on this site. "He can't do anything without Crosby or Malkin. He's only scoring because of the center he plays with"


There's a difference between "on this site" and "by Leafs fans." Try not to tar all idiots with the same brush.
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6 mai 2020 à 17 h 19
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Quoting: MitchMarnerElite
Guentzel is not as good defensively as Marner but he is better at driving the play. He generates more shots & offensive zone possession. Plus he scores way more goals & was scoring at a 90 point pace too!


agree to disagree I don't have the energy to get into another capfriendly player debate today lol
6 mai 2020 à 18 h 12
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Quoting: MitchMarnerElite
Dude Guentzel is better than Marner.


Marner is WAY better than Guenzel imo
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6 mai 2020 à 20 h 4
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Quoting: MitchMarnerElite
Dude Guentzel is better than Marner.


Quoting: leafs101
dude nope. Marner has better production playing with worse players for most, if not all of his career. Also a strong penalty killer


Quoting: MitchMarnerElite
Guentzel is not as good defensively as Marner but he is better at driving the play. He generates more shots & offensive zone possession. Plus he scores way more goals & was scoring at a 90 point pace too!


Although @MitchMarnerElite is his username, he recognizes, as do I, that Guentzel is the more valuable winger.
I take Guentzel 100/100.
Especially considering I can have 2 Guentzel for 1 Marner and an ELC.
6 mai 2020 à 21 h 30
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Although @MitchMarnerElite is his username, he recognizes, as do I, that Guentzel is the more valuable winger.
I take Guentzel 100/100.
Especially considering I can have 2 Guentzel for 1 Marner and an ELC.


man if you think that because of his username he likes Marner and values him properly, you'd be gravely mistaken. I'm taking Marner, but you're opinion is your opinion
6 mai 2020 à 22 h 39
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Quoting: Jeuck75
Marner is WAY better than Guenzel imo


Quoting: leafs101
man if you think that because of his username he likes Marner and values him properly, you'd be gravely mistaken. I'm taking Marner, but you're opinion is your opinion


Well Guentzel is arguably the best playoff performer in the league amongst active players.
7 mai 2020 à 9 h 41
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Well Guentzel is arguably the best playoff performer in the league amongst active players.


Logan Couture, Brad Marchand
7 mai 2020 à 10 h 6
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Well Guentzel is arguably the best playoff performer in the league amongst active players.

1 goal and 0 assists in 4 games played in last years playoffs
7 mai 2020 à 11 h 38
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Quoting: Jeuck75
Logan Couture, Brad Marchand


Quoting: leafs101
1 goal and 0 assists in 4 games played in last years playoffs


Guentzel is like 7th all time in playoff goals per game.
7 mai 2020 à 11 h 40
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Guentzel is like 7th all time in playoff goals per game.


I know that someone was talking about this is posts before this one but when you play alongside Crosby you're going to get more points/goals than you would normally. At least thats just my opinion, but I can't argue that Guentzel isn't good because he is.
7 mai 2020 à 11 h 43
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I know that someone was talking about this is posts before this one but when you play alongside Crosby you're going to get more points/goals than you would normally. At least thats just my opinion, but I can't argue that Guentzel isn't good because he is.


But Jake has what it takes to score 40 goals every season. You can’t say the same about Crosby’s other wingers.
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Quoting: MitchMarnerElite
But Jake has what it takes to score 40 goals every season. You can’t say the same about Crosby’s other wingers.


I agree with that
7 mai 2020 à 12 h 20
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Logan Couture, Brad Marchand


Marchand-1 SC
Couture-0 SC
they may be good in the playoffs, but cups are king.
 
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