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Créé par: wondershrimp
Équipe: 2020-21 Sabres de Buffalo
Date de création initiale: 6 mai 2020
Publié: 6 mai 2020
Mode - plafond salarial: Basique
Description
I can't take another year of suffering. On paper this looks like a decent squad.
Signatures de joueurs autonomes
RFAANSCAP HIT
42 000 000 $
54 000 000 $
3925 000 $
3925 000 $
21 000 000 $
32 000 000 $
32 750 000 $
31 750 000 $
31 750 000 $
56 000 000 $
UFAANSCAP HIT
44 500 000 $
22 000 000 $
Transactions
1.
BUF
MIN
  1. Okposo, Kyle
Détails additionnels:
cbo
2.
BUF
  1. Anderson, Josh [Droits de RFA]
CBJ
  1. Choix de 2e ronde en 2021 (BUF)
3.
PIT
  1. Johnson, Ryan [Liste de réserve]
  2. Reinhart, Sam [Droits de RFA]
4.
BUF
  1. Mantha, Anthony [Droits de RFA]
DET
  1. Montour, Brandon [Droits de RFA]
  2. Choix de 1e ronde en 2021 (BUF)
Détails additionnels:
top 3 protected
Rachats de contrats
Enfoui
Repêchage1e ronde2e ronde3e ronde4e ronde5e ronde6e ronde7e ronde
2020
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2021
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2022
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TAILLE DE LA FORMATIONPLAFOND SALARIALCAP HITEXCÉDENTS Info-bulleBONISESPACE SOUS LE PLAFOND SALARIAL
2281 999 999 $76 648 334 $1 487 500 $4 337 500 $5 351 665 $
Ailier gaucheCentreAilier droit
Logo de Sabres de Buffalo
9 000 000 $9 000 000 $
AG, AD
NMC
UFA - 7
Logo de Sabres de Buffalo
10 000 000 $10 000 000 $
C
UFA - 6
Logo de Penguins de Pittsburgh
4 500 000 $4 500 000 $
AG, AD
UFA - 4
4 500 000 $4 500 000 $
C, AG
UFA - 1
6 000 000 $6 000 000 $
AG, AD
UFA - 4
Logo de Sabres de Buffalo
4 000 000 $4 000 000 $
AD, AG
UFA - 2
Logo de Sabres de Buffalo
894 167 $894 167 $ (Bonis de performance850 000 $$850K)
C, AG
UFA - 3
2 750 000 $2 750 000 $
AD, AG
UFA - 7
Logo de Sabres de Buffalo
2 000 000 $2 000 000 $
AG, AD, C
UFA - 1
Logo de Sabres de Buffalo
4 500 000 $4 500 000 $
AG, AD
M-NTC
UFA - 1
Logo de Sabres de Buffalo
925 000 $925 000 $
C, AG
RFA - 2
Logo de Sabres de Buffalo
2 000 000 $2 000 000 $
C, AG
UFA - 2
Logo de Sabres de Buffalo
1 000 000 $1 000 000 $
AD, C
UFA - 2
Défenseur gaucherDéfenseur droitierGardien de but
Logo de Sabres de Buffalo
925 000 $925 000 $ (Bonis de performance2 850 000 $$3M)
DG/DD
UFA - 1
Logo de Sabres de Buffalo
3 875 000 $3 875 000 $
DD
UFA - 2
Logo de Sabres de Buffalo
2 000 000 $2 000 000 $
G
UFA - 1
Logo de Sabres de Buffalo
2 850 000 $2 850 000 $
DG/DD
UFA - 1
Logo de Sabres de Buffalo
925 000 $925 000 $ (Bonis de performance637 500 $$638K)
DD
RFA - 1
1 750 000 $1 750 000 $
G
UFA - 3
Logo de Penguins de Pittsburgh
1 150 000 $1 150 000 $
DG
UFA - 1
Logo de Sabres de Buffalo
5 400 000 $5 400 000 $
DD
UFA - 2
Logo de Sabres de Buffalo
1 750 000 $1 750 000 $
DG
UFA

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6 mai 2020 à 12 h 53
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Detroit isn't trading Mantha and they are also set with right defensemen.
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6 mai 2020 à 12 h 55
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Quoting: aedoran
Detroit isn't trading Mantha and they are also set with right defensemen.


What if it was this year's first instead of next years?
6 mai 2020 à 13 h 2
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Pittsburgh isn't trading a solid goalie and a 40 goal scorer on a great contract
6 mai 2020 à 13 h 2
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Guentzel is better than Reinhart so that trade 1 for 1 would be ridiculous
6 mai 2020 à 13 h 8
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Guentzel is better than Reinhart so that trade 1 for 1 would be ridiculous


On paper certainly but Guentzel plays with Crosby. Sheary was a point a game guy playing with Sid so it's hard to compare them. Reinhart doesn't get the luxury of playing with one of history's best centers
6 mai 2020 à 13 h 12
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What if it was this year's first instead of next years?


I'm not sure Mantha is hands down Detroit's most talented player and Hronek, Seider and Lindstrom and a couple of RD prospects they are set. Is the pick protected?
6 mai 2020 à 13 h 14
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On paper certainly but Guentzel plays with Crosby. Sheary was a point a game guy playing with Sid so it's hard to compare them. Reinhart doesn't get the luxury of playing with one of history's best centers

I would add that although Sam plays with Jack, Buffalo has been a one line team for a while, and with Pittsburgh teams have to defend against several lines who are a threat to score every time they are on the ice.

Wanted to get this in before the 'but Sam plays with Jack' comments.
6 mai 2020 à 13 h 15
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I'm not sure Mantha is hands down Detroit's most talented player and Hronek, Seider and Lindstrom and a couple of RD prospects they are set. Is the pick protected?


Detroit passes unless buff adds this year's first + more
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On paper certainly but Guentzel plays with Crosby. Sheary was a point a game guy playing with Sid so it's hard to compare them. Reinhart doesn't get the luxury of playing with one of history's best centers


Doesn't he play with Eichel though? Of course Jake has been extremely lucky to play with Sid and Geno the first 4 years of his career but 40 goals is 40 goals. Its kinda like how people said Panarin was only good because he played with Kane but that was really good for his development and he eventually became just as good as Kane. Sheary IMO was a bit of a flukey year considering he was playing with Sid and Jake and every other year he was like a 30 point guy. In respect to that Jake's been much more consistent
6 mai 2020 à 13 h 16
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I'm not sure Mantha is hands down Detroit's most talented player and Hronek, Seider and Lindstrom and a couple of RD prospects they are set. Is the pick protected?


Top 3 maybe
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6 mai 2020 à 13 h 16
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I think I would look for a different 2C. This would be I think Haula's 5th team in 5 years? Might be a red flag there.
6 mai 2020 à 13 h 25
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What if it was this year's first instead of next years?


BUF would be stupid to do any of that (either this year or next year). BUF has plenty of talent on the F side, but some of it is stuck in the AHL/Europe, being pushed out by the likes of Wayne Simmonds, Kyle Okposo, Curtis Lazar, etc. They need to stop adding on AHL level players to play the bottom half of their lineup, and get some of the kids in there. Adding Mantha won't fix that part of the lineup.

Also, their Cs can't win a faceoff to save their life. Eichel is one of the worst FO men in the league (factoring in regular Cs), he's at 47% (for comparison, Larkin is at 53%, Barkov is at 54%, Horvat is at 57%). Not winning a faceoff puts you behind immediately (in either end of play), which is a major structural issue that is being exploited.

If you want to improve BUF, they need a true #2 C that can win faceoffs, chip in 45 points, and center the 2nd PP unit. They need a top defensive C (that can also win a draw). They need an infusion of youth at the bottom end. They also need a true defensive dman that can play 20+ minutes a night. Mantha doesn't fix any of these.
6 mai 2020 à 13 h 28
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Everybody rejects except like Lazar and maybe CBJ, Jarry also gets close to 3 mil more

Guentzel was just as good if not better without Crosby this year as he was with him...
6 mai 2020 à 13 h 34
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Top 3 maybe


Ok switch Montour with Ryan Johnson and then ask again after the lottery draft.
6 mai 2020 à 13 h 39
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Quoting: TMarch
BUF would be stupid to do any of that (either this year or next year). BUF has plenty of talent on the F side, but some of it is stuck in the AHL/Europe, being pushed out by the likes of Wayne Simmonds, Kyle Okposo, Curtis Lazar, etc. They need to stop adding on AHL level players to play the bottom half of their lineup, and get some of the kids in there. Adding Mantha won't fix that part of the lineup.

Also, their Cs can't win a faceoff to save their life. Eichel is one of the worst FO men in the league (factoring in regular Cs), he's at 47% (for comparison, Larkin is at 53%, Barkov is at 54%, Horvat is at 57%). Not winning a faceoff puts you behind immediately (in either end of play), which is a major structural issue that is being exploited.

If you want to improve BUF, they need a true #2 C that can win faceoffs, chip in 45 points, and center the 2nd PP unit. They need a top defensive C (that can also win a draw). They need an infusion of youth at the bottom end. They also need a true defensive dman that can play 20+ minutes a night. Mantha doesn't fix any of these.


I disagree. What youth do you speak of that will magically improve the roster? Mittelstadt is a black hole on both ends of the ice, Thompson does nothing, and I put Cozens in the lineup. Trading this years 1st is more than likely the 7th or 8th overall pick. I'd rather have Mantha, a player who we know can put up 65-70 points with Eichel than some random prospect who could be a bust just like Mittelstadt. I also signed Erik Haula for decent term and $ until Cozens can fill 2c role.
6 mai 2020 à 21 h 18
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Quoting: Jesus
Doesn't he play with Eichel though? Of course Jake has been extremely lucky to play with Sid and Geno the first 4 years of his career but 40 goals is 40 goals. Its kinda like how people said Panarin was only good because he played with Kane but that was really good for his development and he eventually became just as good as Kane. Sheary IMO was a bit of a flukey year considering he was playing with Sid and Jake and every other year he was like a 30 point guy. In respect to that Jake's been much more consistent


Sure he plays with Eichel but the Sabres stink and hardly score.
 
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