More like the best young players...

Who would you have other than these? I had mostly under 25.

So how did u base the list? because draisatl is better than barkov and younger. also if shesterkin and blackwood i think will be better than knight.

Uhhh draisaitl..?

Did u see @sabres1108 draft the other day? He put all players in a pool and did a draft. I think if that happened you would take these players in this order.

I like Draisitl but I believe that Barkovs more valuable in the Defensive zone. I could switch it around, I think Barzal could be in also. Ive watched a couple Oilers games to try and get a grasp of what makes Draisaitl good. He isnt a special skater, he's slower than a lot of the top players, his hands are also like rocks, his stick handling is horrible IMO. Like he isn't a guy who will go end to end. But he is very very smart and he uses his big frame and amazing shot, plus good vision to score. I think he dominated with Yamamato because Yamamato is a hunny badger like they said, he does the dirty work and Draisaitl just finishes or gets the puck back to Yamamato for a goal.

He definitely isn't as flashy as a guy like matthews or mackinnon or mcdavid, but he actually is pretty fast, definitely not top tier but he can burn around d-men if he gets going. His hands aren't bad, he just isn't flashy. He just sees the game well and is a lethal offensive threat. Also what you didn't mention is his passing. His passing is top tier and one of the best passers in the league, along with a good shot and vision. I agree Barkov is better than Draisaitl in the D-zone and drai needs to work on that aspect of his game, but I think the offensive upside is too much to pass up on.

Fair enough, deceptive speed. I meant to great good vision for passing above. Just wrote good vision to score*. I will switch them around because I agree with you. I just wanted someone to prove to me that point above. Would you have Draisaitl or Barzal? I think Draisaitl because his offensive upside and domination when it comes to passing and shot.

You gotta be messing with me rn right?

So, just so i get the concept, this is basically a list of the players with the most amount of value, factoring in age, production, potential, and contract?

Cool list: and really good job at it

BUT ADD IT TO THE TITLE BECAUSE THIS IS CONFUSING ("Top 5 Players per Position LONG TERM" or "Top 5 Players LONG TERM" if that didnt fit)

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Ye, I almost had Pesce in this list, who would you put either of those over and your reasoning, o don't disagree with you just want a reasoning for changes. Maybe Hamilton 4th drop Ekblad off, and Slavin....I don't know, he's good but 3 years older

Slavin is probably the 2nd or 3rd best LD in the entire league right now. He's 26 as of 5 days ago. He's not old and he's still constantly improving. I'd easily have him over Werenski, Provorov and and Hughes. Mainly above Hughes because Hughes was a rookie and that is a VERY small sample size.

In regards to Hamilton, he would have been top 3 in Norris voting bar a gruesome injury that cut his season short. He's 27 and still getting better. To say he's not better than rookies like Makar and Fox is ludicrous to me.

You say you have based this long term, but have mainly picked 19-22 year olds in terms of D men, seemingly forgetting the common consensus that D men take longer to develop and hence have longer primes. Hamilton and Slavin are likely to be playing at the highest levels when Makar and Fox are signed to their UFA deals.

That said, if you were trying to keep this below the age of 25, Pesce still should have been on this list. Pesce is easily the most underrated player in the entire league. People think of him as a 2nd pairing D man when he's FAR from it. Carolina won 2 games against teams that were NHL calibre (They did beat Detroit to, but my beer league team would make a game against Detroit competitive) without Pesce, and it didn't look like they were gonna make the playoffs in his absence. In terms of Analytics, he's better than everyone you have on this list with a 3000 minute sample size (that excludes Fox and Makar because rookies). His base results are also better than Jones'. You like base stats? Pesce was 4th in the league in +/- in the last 82 game season. I don't see how you cannot have him on this list unless you just haven't had the exposure to him that Canes fans have.

Drai over barkov. Barkov is #6. Also I don't know if you'd count players that haven't been drafted yet but Lafreniere would make that LW hypothetically. Also idk if Parayko is too old but I'd throw him in

Elias Petterson should be seriously consider. Imhe is younger then almost every guy there and outperform most of them at the same age.

Shesterkin?
Rantanen>marner

I totally agree, so on NHL 20 their is a Fantasy Draft mode where every player is put into a pot and you redraft all the players to other teams, if you had to pick a Dman to start your franchise would you take Slavin over Hughes, Werenski, and and Provorov. And same goes for Hamilton. Obviously I like Hamilton and am a secret canes fan, I have Makar and Fox over Hamilton because if u had to pick I would want the 21-22 year old over the 27 Year old. I think Makar has the potential to be a great NHL Dman in 2 years. Fox maybe a little longer. In the sense of the draft though, do you take Pesce over Hamilton? I get over Jones and maybe Ekblad. Ekblads good just not #1 pick good like he was supposed 2 be. One of the best defensive players though.

Rantanens is bigger but Marner scores more and plays better on defense in terms of steals...

I have Shesterkin in the Reserve list, I don't think he has proven he is better than Gibson and Hellebuyck, and the other 3 are younger than him and playing very good, or going to be good.

Parayko over who? I have a couple changes being made to D already, throwing Pesce in at #4 and Hamilton #5. Is he over them? Also what's ur thought on Ekblad, should he be higher on this list? Lafreniere is younger ye, I didn't do future players

Yes. I forgot him. I don't think he scratches the top 4. They are all amazing. But I am switching Barkov for Draisaitl. Does Petterson deserve the 5th spot over Draisaitl

If I'm a GM I'm taking Parayko over Pesce every time. I really like Ekblad, but he's good where he is. If Parayko were a bit younger I might put him ahead of Ekblad, but even then its close

no