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Créé par: KeepUps15
Équipe: 2020-21 Maple Leafs de Toronto
Date de création initiale: 25 avr. 2020
Publié: 25 avr. 2020
Mode - plafond salarial: Basique
Signatures de joueurs autonomes
LISTE DE RÉSERVEANSCAP HIT
2700 000 $
RFAANSCAP HIT
11 500 000 $
11 250 000 $
63 500 000 $
UFAANSCAP HIT
1700 000 $
13 250 000 $
Transactions
1.
TOR
  1. Honka, Julius [Liste de réserve]
DAL
  1. Bracco, Jeremy [Droits de RFA]
2.
TOR
    any team
    ARI
    1. Engvall, Pierre
    Détails additionnels:
    waivers. Or traded
    3.
    TOR
    1. Jankowski, Mark [Droits de RFA]
    CGY
    1. Korshkov, Yegor
    2. Choix de 4e ronde en 2020 (VGK)
    4.
    ARI
    1. Kerfoot, Alexander
    2. Stotts, Riley [Liste de réserve]
    3. Choix de 2e ronde en 2022 (TOR)
    5.
    TOR
    ARI
    1. Kessel, Phil
    Détails additionnels:
    cbo
    6.
    TOR
    1. Weegar, MacKenzie [Droits de RFA]
    FLA
    1. Dermott, Travis [Droits de RFA]
    2. Johnsson, Andreas
    3. Choix de 3e ronde en 2022 (TOR)
    Rachats de contrats
    Transactions impliquant une retenue de salaire
    Repêchage1e ronde2e ronde3e ronde4e ronde5e ronde6e ronde7e ronde
    2020
    Logo de TOR
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    Logo de TOR
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    Logo de COL
    Logo de SJS
    Logo de STL
    Logo de WPG
    2021
    Logo de TOR
    Logo de TOR
    Logo de TOR
    Logo de TOR
    Logo de TOR
    Logo de TOR
    2022
    Logo de TOR
    Logo de TOR
    Logo de TOR
    Logo de TOR
    Logo de TOR
    TAILLE DE LA FORMATIONPLAFOND SALARIALCAP HITEXCÉDENTS Info-bulleBONISESPACE SOUS LE PLAFOND SALARIAL
    2281 500 000 $81 483 950 $0 $0 $16 050 $
    Ailier gaucheCentreAilier droit
    Logo de Maple Leafs de Toronto
    2 250 000 $2 250 000 $
    AD, AG
    M-NTC
    UFA - 1
    Logo de Maple Leafs de Toronto
    11 640 250 $11 640 250 $
    C
    UFA - 4
    Logo de Maple Leafs de Toronto
    10 903 000 $10 903 000 $
    AD
    UFA - 5
    Logo de Maple Leafs de Toronto
    1 500 000 $1 500 000 $
    AG, AD
    UFA - 2
    Logo de Maple Leafs de Toronto
    11 000 000 $11 000 000 $
    C, AG
    NMC
    UFA - 5
    Logo de Maple Leafs de Toronto
    6 962 366 $6 962 366 $
    AD
    UFA - 4
    Logo de Coyotes de l'Arizona
    775 000 $775 000 $
    AD, AG
    UFA - 1
    Logo de Maple Leafs de Toronto
    3 200 000 $3 200 000 $
    AD
    UFA - 2
    Logo de Maple Leafs de Toronto
    821 667 $821 667 $
    AG, AD
    RFA - 4
    Logo de Maple Leafs de Toronto
    925 000 $925 000 $
    AD, AG
    UFA - 1
    1 250 000 $1 250 000 $
    C, AG
    UFA - 1
    Logo de Maple Leafs de Toronto
    700 000 $700 000 $
    C, AD
    UFA - 1
    Défenseur gaucherDéfenseur droitierGardien de but
    Logo de Maple Leafs de Toronto
    5 000 000 $5 000 000 $
    DG
    M-NTC
    UFA - 2
    3 500 000 $3 500 000 $
    DG/DD
    UFA - 3
    Logo de Maple Leafs de Toronto
    5 000 000 $5 000 000 $
    G
    M-NTC
    UFA - 1
    Logo de Maple Leafs de Toronto
    5 625 000 $5 625 000 $
    DG
    NMC
    UFA - 4
    Logo de Maple Leafs de Toronto
    2 000 000 $2 000 000 $
    DD
    M-NTC
    UFA - 3
    Logo de Maple Leafs de Toronto
    1 650 000 $1 650 000 $
    G
    UFA - 2
    Logo de Maple Leafs de Toronto
    894 167 $894 167 $
    DG
    UFA - 2
    3 250 000 $3 250 000 $
    DD
    UFA - 4
    Laissés de côtéListe des blessés (IR)Liste des blessés à long terme (LTIR)
    700 000 $700 000 $
    DD
    UFA - 1
    Logo de Maple Leafs de Toronto
    737 500 $737 500 $
    AG
    UFA - 1

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    25 avr. 2020 à 22 h 46
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    AllJonedOut
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    Imagine if you could keep Kessel. That would be insane. You probably would be fine not signing demelo and playing honka and putting that money toward Freddy. If
    25 avr. 2020 à 22 h 56
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    What's the point of playing Robertson on the 4th line (and even Barabanov)
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    25 avr. 2020 à 23 h 5
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    I just want to confirm that you want to:

    1. Trade Alexander Kerfoot
    2. Trade a 2nd round pick (2022)
    3. Trade a 3rd round pick (Stotts)
    4. Buyout Phil Kessel for Arizona
    5. Give away Pierre Engvall for free

    Just to get your hands on a 24 year old plug named Connor Garland?
    And play him on his off wing forcing Nick Robertson to the 4th line?

    Who the f*** is Connor Garland?
    25 avr. 2020 à 23 h 16
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    Quoting: drewjenks
    I just want to confirm that you want to:

    1. Trade Alexander Kerfoot
    2. Trade a 2nd round pick (2022)
    3. Trade a 3rd round pick (Stotts)
    4. Buyout Phil Kessel for Arizona
    5. Give away Pierre Engvall for free

    Just to get your hands on a 24 year old plug named Connor Garland?
    And play him on his off wing forcing Nick Robertson to the 4th line?

    Who the f*** is Connor Garland?


    Make some research if you don't know who he is.
    25 avr. 2020 à 23 h 23
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    Quoting: bhavikp27
    Make some research if you don't know who he is.


    I did. He looks OK. What is so special about him?

    What exactly makes him a 2nd + 3rd + Engvall + Free Buyout better than Kerfoot?
    25 avr. 2020 à 23 h 57
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    Quoting: bhavikp27
    Make some research if you don't know who he is.


    Plug is an interesting word for describing 22 goals
    Quoting: drewjenks
    I did. He looks OK. What is so special about him?

    What exactly makes him a 2nd + 3rd + Engvall + Free Buyout better than Kerfoot?


    What? On pace for 27 goals 47 points in his sophomore year? On one of the lowest scoring teams in the league.
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    26 avr. 2020 à 7 h 56
    #7
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    Quoting: bhavikp27
    What's the point of playing Robertson on the 4th line (and even Barabanov)


    To not rush his development. This is suppose to be him playing 9 games to get some nhl experience.
    Barabanov should be getting 4th line minutes
    26 avr. 2020 à 10 h 28
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    Quoting: drewjenks
    I just want to confirm that you want to:

    1. Trade Alexander Kerfoot
    2. Trade a 2nd round pick (2022)
    3. Trade a 3rd round pick (Stotts)
    4. Buyout Phil Kessel for Arizona
    5. Give away Pierre Engvall for free

    Just to get your hands on a 24 year old plug named Connor Garland?
    And play him on his off wing forcing Nick Robertson to the 4th line?

    Who the f*** is Connor Garland?


    I like how you are assuming he is really bad
    26 avr. 2020 à 17 h 40
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    Quoting: Hockeytor15
    I like how you are assuming he is really bad


    I know who he is ... It's just a bad trade
    26 avr. 2020 à 20 h 27
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    Quoting: drewjenks
    I know who he is ... It's just a bad trade


    So you don't like 25 goal scorers. ok
    26 avr. 2020 à 21 h 1
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    Quoting: Hockeytor15
    So you don't like 25 goal scorers. ok


    His stats are similar to Kerfoot ... so adding a 2nd + 3rd + Engvall + wasting a buyout makes it a bad trade.

    Engvall could easily develop into the same type of or better player next year. Their rookie seasons are statistically similar.
    26 avr. 2020 à 21 h 10
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    Quoting: drewjenks
    His stats are similar to Kerfoot ... so adding a 2nd + 3rd + Engvall + wasting a buyout makes it a bad trade.

    Engvall could easily develop into the same type of or better player next year. Their rookie seasons are statistically similar.


    Tell me how his stats are even near similar to Kerfoots?
    28 avr. 2020 à 1 h 45
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    Modifié 28 avr. 2020 à 1 h 50
    Quoting: Hockeytor15
    Tell me how his stats are even near similar to Kerfoots?


    Alex Kerfoot - First 2 NHL Seasons

    14:09 = Average Ice Time
    157 = Games Played
    34 = Goals Scored
    51 = Assists
    85 = Points

    0.217 = Goals / Game (Loss)
    0.325 = Assist / Game (Win)
    0.541 = Points / Game (Win)
    2.304 = Points / 60-Min (Win)

    -------------------------

    Conor Garland - First 2 NHL Seasons

    13:36 = Average Ice Time
    115 = Games Played
    35 = Goals Scored
    22 = Assists
    57 = Points

    0.304 = Goals / Game (Win)
    0.191 = Assist / Game (Loss)
    0.495 = Points / Game (Loss)
    2.186 = Points / 60-Min (Loss)

    -----------------------

    "Tell me how his stats are even near similar to Kerfoots?"

    Seems like you're looking for conflict where there isn't any:

    - Garland is clearly the better goal scorer.
    - Kerfoot is clearly the better play-maker.
    - Kerfoot has an edge in points per game.
    - Kerfoot has an edge in points per 60 min.
    - Both players were 23 in their first season.
    - Both players were 24 in their 2nd season.
    - Both players are 5'10 and close to 170 lbs.
    - Kerfoot plays at C while Garland plays RW.

    I didn't even say Kerfoot's stats were better (even though there's an argument for it).
    I said their stats are similar, which is true (even if we add in Kerfoot's current season).

    I should also note that Pierre Engvall's rookie stats are similar to Garland's rookie stats.
    Engvall is younger than Garland as will (he's also 6'5, kills penalties and can play center).
    Engvall could very well end up being as good or better than Garland in the near future.

    And buying out a contract like Kessel's would likely net Toronto a 2nd round pick (or better).
    Factor that in and Toronto would giving up Kerfoot + Engvall + 2nd + 2nd + 3rd for Garland.
    Why give up 2 similar players (two of Toronto's best 3rd line center options) plus 3 high picks?

    I'd 100% take Garland over Kerfoot straight up, but I stand by my comments.
     
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