Modifié 26 avr. 2020 à 0 h 30
Quoting: Ihaveajoner
Not really. Both are/were elite wingers, that were born to play offense and don’t really care about defense.
Can I ask how the scale is different?
These charts represent a heavily modified Corsi Metric that I made to evaluate players, it is the normal corsi of a player with respect to the quality of chances, the score for the rest of the team, where the player takes face offs from (its a lot). Basically this stat will determine if a player is effective combined both ways, if a player has a chances against value that is higher than the value calculated of chances for, then they are below 50 (bad), the metric will also factor in where the player most often takes faceoffs, if they start in the Defensive zone more, their Corsi values are affected accordingly.
as you can see, Patrick Marleau has long kept up a very efficient career, when he is on the ice, the team gains a net positive impact, this has been the case for most of his career (not enough data available before 08-09).
Meanwhile over in Kessel-ville, despite the fact that he scores a ton (which the algorithm considers), he gives up so many chances and is overwhelmingly starting in the offensive zone, that his net impact on the team, is negative, meaning, the team is doing BETTER when he is not on the ice, this has been the case since even before he was traded to Pittsburgh. this is a result of him having some of the biggest oZS% in the league, over 60% the past 5 years. with the CA value adjusted based on his Zone starts, its really really bad for Phil.
TLDR: Phil is so unbelievable bad in the defensive zone, his heavily inflated offensive numbers aren't enough to total out to him being effective.