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Manson Brodie

Créé par: jzmaresky
Équipe: 2020-21 Maple Leafs de Toronto
Date de création initiale: 23 avr. 2020
Publié: 23 avr. 2020
Mode - plafond salarial: Basique
Description
Salary moves to $89,375,000 because of Kesler on LTIR
Signatures de joueurs autonomes
RFAANSCAP HIT
32 200 000 $
32 000 000 $
UFAANSCAP HIT
31 150 000 $
1700 000 $
45 000 000 $
Transactions
ANA
  1. Engvall, Pierre
  2. Kapanen, Kasperi
  3. Choix de 4e ronde en 2021 (TOR)
Rachats de contrats
Transactions impliquant une retenue de salaire
Repêchage1e ronde2e ronde3e ronde4e ronde5e ronde6e ronde7e ronde
2020
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2389 375 000 $87 202 283 $0 $0 $2 172 717 $
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2 250 000 $2 250 000 $
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6 962 366 $6 962 366 $
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UFA - 4
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11 000 000 $11 000 000 $
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10 903 000 $10 903 000 $
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821 667 $821 667 $
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5 625 000 $5 625 000 $
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Laissés de côtéListe des blessés (IR)Liste des blessés à long terme (LTIR)
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750 000 $750 000 $
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23 avr. 2020 à 13 h 46
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Get read for the hate because of the Manson trade 🙄
23 avr. 2020 à 13 h 47
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Wouldn’t it be logical for the Ducks to want a young RD prospect for Manson? Isn’t that a huge organizational position of need? Forwards aren’t a necessity glancing at their prospect pool.
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23 avr. 2020 à 13 h 56
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if they have manson why would they need brodie? they wouldnt
23 avr. 2020 à 13 h 59
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(1) Please tell me which of these LWs you think Engvall would be an upgrade over: Dan Heinen, Sonny Milano, Max Jones.

(2) Please tell me which of these LWs you think Engvall has a higher potential ceiling than: Max Comtois, Braden Tracey.

(3) As @Pmwalker implies, please tell me how we fill the hole at RD that would be created by trading Manson away. We currently have only Erik Gudbranson and prospects Axel Andersson and Hunter Drew under contract on that side.
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23 avr. 2020 à 14 h 7
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Quoting: MMXD
Get read for the hate because of the Manson trade 🙄


We don’t hate because it’s a Manson trade. We hate it because they never want to return something we NEED we don’t need more wingers
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23 avr. 2020 à 14 h 10
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Quoting: Jack_
if they have manson why would they need brodie? they wouldnt


Even if you acquire Manson you need a top 4RD. Holl isn’t there and expecting a guy like Lils to handle top 4 minutes immediately is a recipe for disaster.

Signing Brodie
Trading for Manson with the deal built around Lils
Trading Dermott

Allows a deployment of some combination of Rielly,Brodie, Manson, Muzzin, Sandin and Holl.

That’s a better defense in my opinion and better aligns with the firepower up front making them contenders for sure.
23 avr. 2020 à 14 h 10
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for reference people according to a duck fan this is what gets u Manson

Liligren and a 2nd. Only issue the gm wont do that cause he loves manson so leafs will probs have to overpay to get him

As for brodie. That guy is a major risk and i think he should retire for health reasons. He suffered a seizure so if it happens again leafs signed a 5mill top 4 rd for nothing.
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23 avr. 2020 à 14 h 12
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Why is the salary cap so high?
23 avr. 2020 à 14 h 15
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Quoting: Pmwalker
Even if you acquire Manson you need a top 4RD. Holl isn’t there and expecting a guy like Lils to handle top 4 minutes immediately is a recipe for disaster.

Signing Brodie
Trading for Manson with the deal built around Lils
Trading Dermott

Allows a deployment of some combination of Rielly,Brodie, Manson, Muzzin, Sandin and Holl.

That’s a better defense in my opinion and better aligns with the firepower up front making them contenders for sure.


holl has been very good in the top 4 and liljegren will be a good 6th defenseman. the cap space saved instead of signing brodie could be far better optomised
23 avr. 2020 à 14 h 16
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Kinda ridiculous to expect a 89.5m cap. Brodie for 5m X 4 no thanks. Even Manson isn't that special any more. But seemingly the Leafs just have to other teams RHDs. What is the purpose of the Kesler trade? If he's permanently on LTIR it is no benefit/or harm to the Leafs or Duck on whose roster he is on. Leafs certainly don't want his cap if there is the possibility he ever is deemed medically fit.
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23 avr. 2020 à 14 h 17
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AGM doesnt apply the cap hit of players on LTIR to the cap. The cap hit is absurdly high
23 avr. 2020 à 14 h 19
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Quoting: Jack_
holl has been very good in the top 4 and liljegren will be a good 6th defenseman. the cap space saved instead of signing brodie could be far better optomised


Holl isn’t a top 4 on a contender. Adding Brodie and Manson to the top 4 would be a big upgrade.
It cost you Lils but you can recoup an asset or 2 for Dermott and still have Sandin.
23 avr. 2020 à 14 h 35
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Quoting: Pmwalker
Holl isn’t a top 4 on a contender. Adding Brodie and Manson to the top 4 would be a big upgrade.
It cost you Lils but you can recoup an asset or 2 for Dermott and still have Sandin.


they could get a 3rd for dermott without a doubt
23 avr. 2020 à 14 h 41
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You need to give a top prospect, (Liljegren/Der-arguchintsev), a high pick, (maybe a 2nd), and a regular centre/winger (Kerfoot/Johnsson.) and thats rock bottom offer. it would probably end up as Liljegren, Der-arguchintsev, a 2nd, and Kapanen
23 avr. 2020 à 14 h 53
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Quoting: Pmwalker
Wouldn’t it be logical for the Ducks to want a young RD prospect for Manson? Isn’t that a huge organizational position of need? Forwards aren’t a necessity glancing at their prospect pool.


95% of leaf fans don’t know what logic is

Quoting: OldNYIfan
(1) Please tell me which of these LWs you think Engvall would be an upgrade over: Dan Heinen, Sonny Milano, Max Jones.

(2) Please tell me which of these LWs you think Engvall has a higher potential ceiling than: Max Comtois, Braden Tracey.

(3) As @Pmwalker implies, please tell me how we fill the hole at RD that would be created by trading Manson away. We currently have only Erik Gudbranson and prospects Axel Andersson and Hunter Drew under contract on that side.


Who looks at both teams needs and organizational depth on here you’re being ridiculous 😂
23 avr. 2020 à 14 h 58
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Once again how does that benefit Anaheim? How many times does it need to be said Leafs want Manson Anaheim wants Liljegren, Kesler isn't waiving his NMC for Toronto so that's a no go. Trade doesn't benefit Anaheim one iota here.
23 avr. 2020 à 15 h 12
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Quoting: Salzy
95% of leaf fans don’t know what logic is



Who looks at both teams needs and organizational depth on here you’re being ridiculous 😂


yep I am one of the few who thinks logically like when someone says a draft player is better than a star player I go "give me a full nhl season with both players and lets compare their advanced stats and point totals before I agree".

I agree with duck fans if manson goes a RHD like liligren needs to come back with a 2nd pick +. may be an overpayment to some but lets face it both teams need RHD and both teams want to go to the playoffs. If the leafs want to get passed round 1 which they can do only with an improved Dcore. Dubas knows this so he will be busy trading for some good defenseman (maybe even manson) who knows.
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23 avr. 2020 à 16 h 6
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Quoting: OldNYIfan
(1) Please tell me which of these LWs you think Engvall would be an upgrade over: Dan Heinen, Sonny Milano, Max Jones.

(2) Please tell me which of these LWs you think Engvall has a higher potential ceiling than: Max Comtois, Braden Tracey.

(3) As @Pmwalker implies, please tell me how we fill the hole at RD that would be created by trading Manson away. We currently have only Erik Gudbranson and prospects Axel Andersson and Hunter Drew under contract on that side.


The ducks wont be good for a few seasons. It makes so much sense to trade him when they dont need him. He'll be 29 next season with two years left. His contract expires the year he turns 31 so it would be dumb to lock him up long term when hes a ufa. At his age he's starting to decline and the ducks wont be getting any better. Imo keeping manson makes no sense
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23 avr. 2020 à 18 h 40
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Quoting: MMXD
Get read for the hate because of the Manson trade 🙄


Josh Manson is the Dodge Magnum of Dmen in the NHL, seems like a good idea at time of purchase but ultimately will be trade filled with regret
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23 avr. 2020 à 18 h 47
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Quoting: Boomer125
Josh Manson is the Dodge Magnum of Dmen in the NHL, seems like a good idea at time of purchase but ultimately will be trade filled with regret

I’ve been saying this. He’s not worth the asking price on him
23 avr. 2020 à 18 h 48
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The ducks wont be good for a few seasons. It makes so much sense to trade him when they dont need him. He'll be 29 next season with two years left. His contract expires the year he turns 31 so it would be dumb to lock him up long term when hes a ufa. At his age he's starting to decline and the ducks wont be getting any better. Imo keeping manson makes no sense

Exactly, by the time they’re ready to contend, he’ll be next to useless for them
 
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