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Équipe: 2019-20 Équipe personnalisée
Date de création initiale: 21 avr. 2020
Publié: 21 avr. 2020
Mode - plafond salarial: Basique
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*THIS IS IN ALPHABETICAL ORDER BY TEAM LOCATION*
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Logo de Coyotes de l'Arizona
3 000 000 $3 000 000 $
AG
UFA - 1
Logo de Coyotes de l'Arizona
6 800 000 $6 800 000 $
AD
M-NTC, NMC
UFA - 3
Logo de Bruins de Boston
6 125 000 $6 125 000 $
AG
NMC
UFA - 6
Logo de Bruins de Boston
6 666 667 $6 666 667 $
AD
UFA - 4
Logo de Sabres de Buffalo
3 650 000 $3 650 000 $
AD
UFA - 1
Logo de Sabres de Buffalo
10 000 000 $10 000 000 $
C
UFA - 7
Logo de Flames de Calgary
6 750 000 $6 750 000 $
AG
UFA - 3
Logo de Flames de Calgary
7 000 000 $7 000 000 $
AD
UFA - 3
Logo de Hurricanes de la Caroline
925 000 $925 000 $ (Bonis de performance2 650 000 $$3M)
AG, AD
UFA - 2
Logo de Hurricanes de la Caroline
8 454 000 $8 454 000 $
C
UFA - 5
Logo de Blackhawks de Chicago
2 625 000 $2 625 000 $
AD
NMC
UFA - 4
Logo de Blackhawks de Chicago
10 500 000 $10 500 000 $
C
NMC
UFA - 4
Logo de Avalanche du Colorado
880 833 $880 833 $ (Bonis de performance2 500 000 $$2M)
DD
UFA - 2
Logo de Avalanche du Colorado
6 300 000 $6 300 000 $
C
UFA - 4
Logo de Stars de Dallas
9 500 000 $9 500 000 $
AG, C
NMC
UFA - 6
Logo de Stars de Dallas
9 850 000 $9 850 000 $
C, AD
NMC
UFA - 8
Logo de Red Wings de Detroit
3 300 000 $3 300 000 $
AG, AD
UFA - 1
Logo de Red Wings de Detroit
6 100 000 $6 100 000 $
C
UFA - 4
Logo de Oilers d'Edmonton
8 500 000 $8 500 000 $
C, AG
UFA - 6
Logo de Oilers d'Edmonton
12 500 000 $12 500 000 $
C
UFA - 7
Logo de Panthers de la Floride
5 900 000 $5 900 000 $
AG, AD
NMC
UFA - 4
Logo de Panthers de la Floride
5 900 000 $5 900 000 $
C
UFA - 3
Logo de Predators de Nashville
6 000 000 $6 000 000 $
AG
UFA - 3
Logo de Predators de Nashville
4 000 000 $4 000 000 $
DG
UFA - 1
Logo de Islanders de New York
7 000 000 $7 000 000 $
AG
NTC
UFA - 7
Logo de Islanders de New York
863 333 $863 333 $ (Bonis de performance400 000 $$400K)
C, AD
UFA - 1
Logo de Rangers de New York
11 642 857 $11 642 857 $
AG
NMC
UFA - 7
Logo de Rangers de New York
5 350 000 $5 350 000 $
C
NMC
UFA - 3
Logo de Sénateurs d'Ottawa
925 000 $925 000 $ (Bonis de performance2 500 000 $$2M)
AG
UFA - 2
Logo de Sénateurs d'Ottawa
863 333 $863 333 $ (Bonis de performance360 000 $$360K)
DG
UFA - 1
Logo de Flyers de Philadelphie
4 137 500 $4 137 500 $
AD, C
NMC
UFA - 3
Logo de Flyers de Philadelphie
4 333 333 $4 333 333 $
C
UFA - 3
Logo de Penguins de Pittsburgh
8 700 000 $8 700 000 $
C
NMC
UFA - 6
Logo de Penguins de Pittsburgh
9 500 000 $9 500 000 $
C
NMC
UFA - 3
Logo de Sharks de San Jose
10 000 000 $10 000 000 $
DD
NMC
UFA - 8
Logo de Sharks de San Jose
8 000 000 $8 000 000 $
C
M-NTC
UFA - 8
Logo de Blues de St-Louis
3 750 000 $3 750 000 $
AD
NTC
UFA - 4
Logo de Blues de St-Louis
1 875 000 $1 875 000 $
C
UFA - 4
Logo de Lightning de Tampa Bay
9 500 000 $9 500 000 $
AD
UFA - 8
Logo de Lightning de Tampa Bay
8 500 000 $8 500 000 $
AG, C
NMC
UFA - 5
Logo de Maple Leafs de Toronto
10 893 000 $10 893 000 $
AD
UFA - 6
Logo de Maple Leafs de Toronto
11 634 000 $11 634 000 $
C
UFA - 5
Logo de Canucks de Vancouver
916 667 $916 667 $ (Bonis de performance850 000 $$850K)
DG
UFA - 2
Logo de Canucks de Vancouver
925 000 $925 000 $ (Bonis de performance2 850 000 $$3M)
C, AG
UFA - 2
Logo de Golden Knights de Vegas
7 000 000 $7 000 000 $
AG
M-NTC
UFA - 4
Logo de Golden Knights de Vegas
9 500 000 $9 500 000 $
AD
NMC
UFA - 8
Logo de Capitals de Washington
9 538 462 $9 538 462 $
AG
M-NTC
UFA - 2
Logo de Capitals de Washington
8 000 000 $8 000 000 $
DD
M-NTC
UFA - 7
Logo de Jets de Winnipeg
7 142 857 $7 142 857 $
AG
UFA - 7
Logo de Jets de Winnipeg
6 125 000 $6 125 000 $
C
UFA - 5
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21 avr. 2020 à 10 h 54
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Pastrnak marchand number 2
Mcdavid drasaitl number 1
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21 avr. 2020 à 11 h 5
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21 avr. 2020 à 11 h 6
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Quoting: Torontoleafs15
Pastrnak marchand number 2
Mcdavid drasaitl number 1
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Not possible
According to Oilers fans, they havent played together which is why "Drai should win the Hart"
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21 avr. 2020 à 11 h 15
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1. Marchy and Pasta
IDK who else
A lot of these arent duos. Unless you just mean who has the best two players
21 avr. 2020 à 11 h 16
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PIT (100% unbiased squinty smile)
BOS-2 elite players
EDM-2 elite players (though overrated)
PHI-1 very elite player, one nearly elite
FLA-2 elite players (Hubes>wink
COL-2 elite players, but one is a rookie
VGK-1 very elite player, one very good player
TOR-2 4th line scrubs bc I'm not a TOR fan, that must be what I think of them

NYR-1 hart front runner, and one very good player (but this has been the breadmans best season)
CAR-1 elite player, one very good player (Svech>.)
TBL-1 elite player, one very good player
CGY-2 nearly elite players
VAN-1 elite player, one very good (pp merch) player
WSH-2 elite offensive players, 0 average defensive players

DET-1 extremely underrated nearly elite player, 1 speedy boi (who's also v good at the hockeys)
NSH-1 elite player, one very good (but trending down slightly) player, swap FF with Ellis ant they go up at least a tier

OTT-2 high quality players that I would like to see have a team around them
DAL-1 very good player, 1 trending down very good player
BUF-1 elite player, one good player (this year at least, Reinhart last year pushes this duo near the first tier, I think he can get back to that, just had a down year this yr)

SJS-1 near elite player, one good player
WPG-2 massively overrated good players
CHI-one very good player, one good player, 2 players trending down
NYI-one very good player, one good but already trending down player
ARZ-one elite player who had a down year (if I took away from Reinhart, I have to take away from Hall), one below average payer
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21 avr. 2020 à 11 h 22
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Quoting: bsilk18
1. Marchy and Pasta
IDK who else
A lot of these arent duos. Unless you just mean who has the best two players


Yeah I didn't make that very clear. It's supposed to be more of a "which two players would you prefer to start a franchise with?"
21 avr. 2020 à 11 h 33
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Quoting: AFOX10900
PIT (100% unbiased squinty smile)
BOS-2 elite players
EDM-2 elite players (though overrated)
PHI-1 very elite player, one nearly elite
FLA-2 elite players (Hubes>wink
COL-2 elite players, but one is a rookie
VGK-1 very elite player, one very good player
TOR-2 4th line scrubs bc I'm not a TOR fan, that must be what I think of them

NYR-1 hart front runner, and one very good player (but this has been the breadmans best season)
CAR-1 elite player, one very good player (Svech>.)
TBL-1 elite player, one very good player
CGY-2 nearly elite players
VAN-1 elite player, one very good (pp merch) player
WSH-2 elite offensive players, 0 average defensive players

DET-1 extremely underrated nearly elite player, 1 speedy boi (who's also v good at the hockeys)
NSH-1 elite player, one very good (but trending down slightly) player, swap FF with Ellis ant they go up at least a tier

OTT-2 high quality players that I would like to see have a team around them
DAL-1 very good player, 1 trending down very good player
BUF-1 elite player, one good player (this year at least, Reinhart last year pushes this duo near the first tier, I think he can get back to that, just had a down year this yr)

SJS-1 near elite player, one good player
WPG-2 massively overrated good players
CHI-one very good player, one good player, 2 players trending down
NYI-one very good player, one good but already trending down player
ARZ-one elite player who had a down year (if I took away from Reinhart, I have to take away from Hall), one below average payer


Quoting: aspina25
Yeah I didn't make that very clear. It's supposed to be more of a "which two players would you prefer to start a franchise with?"


Quoting: bsilk18
1. Marchy and Pasta
IDK who else
A lot of these arent duos. Unless you just mean who has the best two players


Quoting: Torontoleafs15
Pastrnak marchand number 2
Mcdavid drasaitl number 1
Imo


Crosby & Malkin is the only correct answer. Both of them have the highest point per game career averages of the last 15 seasons & have more individual achievements combined than all the other duo. Maybe McDavid & Draisaitl will surpass them, but as it stands right now, Crosby & Malkin are the best duo & it’s not even close. Also, I would have Matthews & Tavares for Toronto.
21 avr. 2020 à 11 h 42
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PIT (100% unbiased squinty smile)
BOS-2 elite players
EDM-2 elite players (though overrated)
PHI-1 very elite player, one nearly elite
FLA-2 elite players (Hubes>wink
COL-2 elite players, but one is a rookie
VGK-1 very elite player, one very good player
TOR-2 4th line scrubs bc I'm not a TOR fan, that must be what I think of them

NYR-1 hart front runner, and one very good player (but this has been the breadmans best season)
CAR-1 elite player, one very good player (Svech>.)
TBL-1 elite player, one very good player
CGY-2 nearly elite players
VAN-1 elite player, one very good (pp merch) player
WSH-2 elite offensive players, 0 average defensive players

DET-1 extremely underrated nearly elite player, 1 speedy boi (who's also v good at the hockeys)
NSH-1 elite player, one very good (but trending down slightly) player, swap FF with Ellis ant they go up at least a tier

OTT-2 high quality players that I would like to see have a team around them
DAL-1 very good player, 1 trending down very good player
BUF-1 elite player, one good player (this year at least, Reinhart last year pushes this duo near the first tier, I think he can get back to that, just had a down year this yr)

SJS-1 near elite player, one good player
WPG-2 massively overrated good players
CHI-one very good player, one good player, 2 players trending down
NYI-one very good player, one good but already trending down player
ARZ-one elite player who had a down year (if I took away from Reinhart, I have to take away from Hall), one below average payer


Panarin isn’t the front runner, unless you are talking unabashed East coast bias
21 avr. 2020 à 12 h 17
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Quoting: Xqb15
Panarin isn’t the front runner, unless you are talking unabashed East coast bias


... Panarin should be the frontrunner, he is better than Drai at nearly everything except scoring power play points, and doesn't play on a team with this McDavid guy
21 avr. 2020 à 12 h 25
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Quoting: bsilk18
Not possible
According to Oilers fans, they havent played together which is why "Drai should win the Hart"


Hart should be:
1) Drai
2) Mackinnon
3) Pastrnak
4) McDavid
21 avr. 2020 à 12 h 26
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Quoting: MitchMarnerElite
Crosby & Malkin is the only correct answer. Both of them have the highest point per game career averages of the last 15 seasons & have more individual achievements combined than all the other duo. Maybe McDavid & Draisaitl will surpass them, but as it stands right now, Crosby & Malkin are the best duo & it’s not even close. Also, I would have Matthews & Tavares for Toronto.


They arent a duo, they are both Centers.

Now OP let me know that is what he meant.

So I was right, but with the NEW information, I will say Pit and still be right
21 avr. 2020 à 12 h 29
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Quoting: csick
Hart should be:
1) Drai
2) Mackinnon
3) Pastrnak
4) McDavid



1) Drai
2) Mackinnon
3) Pastrnak
4) McDavid

As I have said, and been agreed with by so many people already:
One cannot be the most VALUEABLE player on their team if there is another player they are in the race against for being the most VALUABLE player.
Same reason that marchy and Pasta shouldnt be on the list (and im a bruins fan). They are both equally VALUABLE to their team, so neither can be the MOST valuable.

This is a fact.

1. KacKinnon
2. Panrain (Zibby was out for a while)
3. Someone else
4. Drai
5. Pasta
6. Macdavid
7. Marchy
21 avr. 2020 à 12 h 37
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Quoting: bsilk18
1) Drai
2) Mackinnon
3) Pastrnak
4) McDavid

As I have said, and been agreed with by so many people already:
One cannot be the most VALUEABLE player on their team if there is another player they are in the race against for being the most VALUABLE player.
Same reason that marchy and Pasta shouldnt be on the list (and im a bruins fan). They are both equally VALUABLE to their team, so neither can be the MOST valuable.

This is a fact.

1. KacKinnon
2. Panrain (Zibby was out for a while)
3. Someone else
4. Drai
5. Pasta
6. Macdavid
7. Marchy


I agree with Panarin but you have to make the playoffs to be valuable
21 avr. 2020 à 12 h 47
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Quoting: csick
I agree with Panarin but you have to make the playoffs to be valuable


In the purest sense of MVP, my finalists would be Panarin, Hellebuyck, and MacKinnon.

The way the trophy is actually handed out tho (gotta be in playoffs, points race, etc.), I'd peg the actual finalists to be Drai, Pasta, and MacKinnon.
21 avr. 2020 à 12 h 48
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Quoting: csick
I agree with Panarin but you have to make the playoffs to be valuable


Taylor Hall with the Devils. They cracked the playoffs, but only won a single game.
They sucked, but Hall excelled.
21 avr. 2020 à 12 h 50
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Quoting: A_K
In the purest sense of MVP, my finalists would be Panarin, Hellebuyck, and MacKinnon.

The way the trophy is actually handed out tho (gotta be in playoffs, points race, etc.), I'd peg the actual finalists to be Drai, Pasta, and MacKinnon.


Well said. And guess what: thats the Ted Lindsay award "Awarded to the NHL's outstanding player as selected by the members of the NHL Players Association (called the Lester B. Pearson Award from 1971 to 2009)"

Its dumb that they have had almost the same winner every year. Because they are two different awards.
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21 avr. 2020 à 13 h 12
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Quoting: bsilk18
Well said. And guess what: thats the Ted Lindsay award "Awarded to the NHL's outstanding player as selected by the members of the NHL Players Association (called the Lester B. Pearson Award from 1971 to 2009)"

Its dumb that they have had almost the same winner every year. Because they are two different awards.


Yep, basically all of the end-of-year NHL awards should be taken with a grain of salt. There is a chasm between the way the awards are defined and the way they are handed out.

Why have two MVPs, one from the writers (Hart) and one from the PA (Lindsay)? Why does the MVP always seem to have the most points when there is an award for most points (Art Ross)? Why do the Selke and Norris winners have to be amongst the league leaders in points? Why do the Vezina finalists always lead the league in wins?

There are much better ways to crunch the numbers in hockey than ever existed 10,20 yrs ago. (Different sport with simpler statistical breakdowns but) baseball MVP votes align with WAR more than any other stat like batting avg, HRs, etc. Maybe the NHL doesn't have a definitive WAR stat, but people that get votes should be able to see that there are better stats than raw points, wins, faceoff %, etc. to use in their voting process.
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21 avr. 2020 à 13 h 42
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Quoting: A_K
Yep, basically all of the end-of-year NHL awards should be taken with a grain of salt. There is a chasm between the way the awards are defined and the way they are handed out.

Why have two MVPs, one from the writers (Hart) and one from the PA (Lindsay)? Why does the MVP always seem to have the most points when there is an award for most points (Art Ross)? Why do the Selke and Norris winners have to be amongst the league leaders in points? Why do the Vezina finalists always lead the league in wins?

There are much better ways to crunch the numbers in hockey than ever existed 10,20 yrs ago. (Different sport with simpler statistical breakdowns but) baseball MVP votes align with WAR more than any other stat like batting avg, HRs, etc. Maybe the NHL doesn't have a definitive WAR stat, but people that get votes should be able to see that there are better stats than raw points, wins, faceoff %, etc. to use in their voting process.


Exactly: and thats my point.

I am telling people Drai SHOULDNT win the hart, because he factually SHOULDNT, but that unfortunately doesnt mean he wont win it, because its dumb.

You are right. If the Hart, Ted Lindsay, and Art ross are the same, it probably isnt right. Unless of course the league leader in points (art ross) is playing on a crappy team (hart) and is that much better skillwise than everyone else (ted Lindsay)

But that isnt Drai!
21 avr. 2020 à 18 h 20
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Quoting: AFOX10900
... Panarin should be the frontrunner, he is better than Drai at nearly everything except scoring power play points, and doesn't play on a team with this McDavid guy


No he shouldn’t, MacKinnon should. The Rangers aren’t a playoff team as it sits. Everybody in the Avs top 6 and Makar have missed 13-28 games, MacKinnon has 43 MORE points then the next highest scorer and the Avs are tied for 3rd most points in the league. Not disparaging the Breadman, actually love him, but MacKinnon deserves it in my very biased opinion.
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21 avr. 2020 à 19 h 7
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No he shouldn’t, MacKinnon should. The Rangers aren’t a playoff team as it sits. Everybody in the Avs top 6 and Makar have missed 13-28 games, MacKinnon has 43 MORE points then the next highest scorer and the Avs are tied for 3rd most points in the league. Not disparaging the Breadman, actually love him, but MacKinnon deserves it in my very biased opinion.


That's actually fair, I was expecting you to say Drai should win it simply bc points, ignoring the fact that nearly 50% of his points comes on the PP (where he DOES play with McD) and is brutal defenseively, for me it's still Panarin, but Mack is definitely up there, likely in second
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