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Créé par: Jameshgfgn
Équipe: 2020-21 Maple Leafs de Toronto
Date de création initiale: 20 avr. 2020
Publié: 20 avr. 2020
Mode - plafond salarial: Basique
Description
Similar to the brooks orpik situation you can’t trade a player to a team and have them CBO and resign them (vincent lecavalier to toronto) but you can have them bought out regularly and resigned (brooks orpik). To do this you have to compensate Ottawa well as it would be a high cap hit for the first few years then it would drop off to around 300,000. This is also why I took back Ryan and CBO by Toronto so Ottawa could take on another bad contract that would be sweetened to be CBO (Ottawa could really clean up). John Tavares yes is the captain of the leafs and doing this would look odd but he is a good team player and this would be very good for the leafs cap situation wise
Signatures de joueurs autonomes
RFAANSCAP HIT
32 150 000 $
21 850 000 $
42 450 000 $
UFAANSCAP HIT
3700 000 $
56 000 000 $
54 900 000 $
11 650 000 $
56 500 000 $
CRÉÉANSCAP HIT
Tavares, John
64 000 000 $
Barron, Justin
3875 000 $
Transactions
1.
TOR
  1. Ryan, Bobby
Détails additionnels:
Ottawa then buys out Tavares NOT CBO normal buyout
OTT
  1. Engvall, Pierre
  2. Liljegren, Timothy
  3. Petan, Nicolas
  4. Tavares, John
  5. Choix de 1e ronde en 2021 (TOR)
  6. Choix de 1e ronde en 2022 (TOR)
2.
TOR
    CBO
    WPG
    1. Ryan, Bobby
    3.
    TOR
    1. Wallmark, Lucas [Droits de RFA]
    FLA
    1. Kossila, Kalle
    2. Choix de 2e ronde en 2020 (TOR)
    4.
    TOR
    1. Choix de 1e ronde en 2020 (WSH)
    2. Choix de 7e ronde en 2021 (WSH)
    WSH
    1. Dermott, Travis
    2. Johnsson, Andreas
    3. Kerfoot, Alexander
    5.
    TOR
    1. Bean, Jake
    2. Choix de 3e ronde en 2020 (BUF)
    CAR
    1. Andersen, Frederik
    Rachats de contrats
    Transactions impliquant une retenue de salaire
    Repêchage1e ronde2e ronde3e ronde4e ronde5e ronde6e ronde7e ronde
    2020
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    2021
    Logo de TOR
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    2022
    Logo de TOR
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    TAILLE DE LA FORMATIONPLAFOND SALARIALCAP HITEXCÉDENTS Info-bulleBONISESPACE SOUS LE PLAFOND SALARIAL
    2081 500 000 $81 421 450 $0 $0 $78 550 $
    Ailier gaucheCentreAilier droit
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    Hyman, Zach
    2 250 000 $2 250 000 $
    AD, AG
    M-NTC
    UFA - 1
    Logo de Maple Leafs de Toronto
    Matthews, Auston
    11 640 250 $11 640 250 $
    C
    UFA - 4
    Logo de Maple Leafs de Toronto
    Nylander, William
    6 962 366 $6 962 366 $
    AD
    UFA - 4
    Hoffman, Mike
    6 000 000 $6 000 000 $
    AG
    UFA - 1
    Tavares, John
    4 000 000 $4 000 000 $
    Logo de Maple Leafs de Toronto
    Marner, Mitchell
    10 903 000 $10 903 000 $
    AD
    UFA - 5
    Logo de Maple Leafs de Toronto
    Mikheyev, Ilya
    2 150 000 $2 150 000 $
    AG, AD
    UFA - 2
    Wallmark, Lucas
    2 450 000 $2 450 000 $
    C
    UFA - 1
    Logo de Maple Leafs de Toronto
    Kapanen, Kasperi
    3 200 000 $3 200 000 $
    AD
    UFA - 2
    Logo de Maple Leafs de Toronto
    Exempté du ballottageRobertson, Nicholas
    821 667 $821 667 $
    AG, AD
    RFA - 4
    Logo de Maple Leafs de Toronto
    Spezza, Jason
    700 000 $700 000 $
    C, AD
    UFA - 1
    Logo de Maple Leafs de Toronto
    Barabanov, Alexander
    925 000 $925 000 $
    AD, AG
    UFA - 1
    Défenseur gaucherDéfenseur droitierGardien de but
    Logo de Maple Leafs de Toronto
    Rielly, Morgan
    5 000 000 $5 000 000 $
    DG
    M-NTC
    UFA - 2
    Hamonic, Travis
    4 900 000 $4 900 000 $
    DD
    UFA - 1
    Lehner, Robin
    6 500 000 $6 500 000 $
    G
    UFA - 5
    Logo de Maple Leafs de Toronto
    Muzzin, Jake
    5 625 000 $5 625 000 $
    DG
    NMC
    UFA - 4
    Logo de Maple Leafs de Toronto
    Holl, Justin
    2 000 000 $2 000 000 $
    DD
    M-NTC
    UFA - 3
    Logo de Maple Leafs de Toronto
    Campbell, Jack
    1 650 000 $1 650 000 $
    G
    UFA - 2
    Logo de Maple Leafs de Toronto
    Sandin, Rasmus
    894 167 $894 167 $
    DG
    UFA - 2
    Hainsey, Ron
    1 650 000 $1 650 000 $
    DD
    UFA

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    20 avr. 2020 à 22 h 58
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    This is a solid team tbh
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    20 avr. 2020 à 23 h 32
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    The NHL hated what happened to Orpik. No way they allow this.
    20 avr. 2020 à 23 h 39
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    Toronto would be penalized, Ottawa would refuse to do this from the start, and no way Tavares takes that contract
    20 avr. 2020 à 23 h 51
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    Quoting: Shibbal18
    Toronto would be penalized, Ottawa would refuse to do this from the start, and no way Tavares takes that contract

    It is allowed you can’t punish them for doing something that is allowed in the CBA. Tavares would be making around 9 more million dollars than the contract that was bought out and still be with the leafs. He would 100% take that. Also in what world does Ottawa not want to they would not get punished because it is allowed under the CBA and they would get picks and prospects in return for space they are not going to use that would just be stupid not to do on their part
    20 avr. 2020 à 23 h 54
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    The NHL hated what happened to Orpik. No way they allow this.

    It’s still allowed under the CBA. Let’s say the NHL try’s to say no leafs would just take it to an independent arbitrator/court and 100% win because it is allowed under the CBA which is a legally binding contract. The NHL can’t just change it if they don’t like it as long as it’s not expired
    21 avr. 2020 à 0 h 11
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    The nhl isn’t going to allow cbos for teams to abuse it

    Come on you think they won’t have strict guidelines in place if they grant teams a cbo

    Delusional
    21 avr. 2020 à 0 h 12
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    actually toronto could pretty much get away with something like this. On their management staff they have the guy who made the cap rules working for them so if any team can maneuver around the cap or cheat it so to speak its the leafs.

    But I dont think it will look like this. Leafs would just use the cbo as leverage to get a depth defenseman out of a team (i.e. the islanders)
    21 avr. 2020 à 0 h 13
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    Quoting: Jameshgfgn
    It’s still allowed under the CBA. Let’s say the NHL try’s to say no leafs would just take it to an independent arbitrator/court and 100% win because it is allowed under the CBA which is a legally binding contract. The NHL can’t just change it if they don’t like it as long as it’s not expired


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    21 avr. 2020 à 0 h 17
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    The nhl isn’t going to allow cbos for teams to abuse it

    Come on you think they won’t have strict guidelines in place if they grant teams a cbo

    Delusional

    It is NOT a CBO
    21 avr. 2020 à 0 h 17
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    Toronto would be penalized, Ottawa would refuse to do this from the start, and no way Tavares takes that contract


    Tavares has a nmc and his buy out cap hit us 10.9m.
    This guy has the most delusional logic
    21 avr. 2020 à 0 h 17
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    Quoting: Jameshgfgn
    It is NOT a CBO


    Then you logic is even 10 times worse, you are living on your own planet
    21 avr. 2020 à 0 h 18
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    Fantasy land

    No it’s contract Law
    21 avr. 2020 à 0 h 20
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    No it’s contract Law


    You think Tavares is going to waive his nmc And the sens are going to have a 10.9m dead cap space buyout on their books Bc why? Bc Bobby Ryan who also has a nmc and would t waive it to be bought out

    Dear lord this is some fan fiction
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    21 avr. 2020 à 0 h 22
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    Tavares has a nmc and his buy out cap hit us 10.9m.
    This guy has the most delusional logic

    No it’s 10,393,333 for 5 years then 303,000 cap hit and it only costs the sens 303,000 a year. The sens literally said they plan on being a cap team in 5 years right when the cap hit drop
    21 avr. 2020 à 0 h 23
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    No it’s 10,393,333 for 5 years then 303,000 cap hit and it only costs the sens 303,000 a year. The sens literally said they plan on being a cap team in 5 years right when the cap hit drop


    Only 5 years hahaha seriously I don’t know if your trolling or really are leafs delusional
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    21 avr. 2020 à 0 h 25
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    You think Tavares is going to waive his nmc And the sens are going to have a 10.9m dead cap space buyout on their books Bc why? Bc Bobby Ryan who also has a nmc and would t waive it to be bought out

    Dear lord this is some fan fiction

    People with no moves get moved all the time and Tavares is a good team player. And the sends literally get picks and prospects for using cap space they are not going to use
    21 avr. 2020 à 0 h 28
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    People with no moves get moved all the time and Tavares is a good team player. And the sends literally get picks and prospects for using cap space they are not going to use


    Do you know how buyouts work in bonus heavy contract? That’s why it’s buyout proof. You still pay him almost his full contract haha it’s sad you actually think the sens would pay 55m out of the 66m left on his contact in actual dollars just to get stuck with a 11m dead cap hit

    You have to be trolling there is no way you are this naive
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    21 avr. 2020 à 0 h 37
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    Do you know how buyouts work in bonus heavy contract? That’s why it’s buyout proof. You still pay him almost his full contract haha it’s sad you actually think the sens would pay 55m out of the 66m left on his contact in actual dollars just to get stuck with a 11m dead cap hit

    You have to be trolling there is no way you are this naive

    You are right about I thing I forgot about the bonus but you can always do it after July 1 (when ever they do it this year) that knocks of 15,900,000 off. Using cap space that they are not going to use other wise and get picks and prospects out of it is a good idea
    21 avr. 2020 à 0 h 46
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    You are right about I thing I forgot about the bonus but you can always do it after July 1 (when ever they do it this year) that knocks of 15,900,000 off. Using cap space that they are not going to use other wise and get picks and prospects out of it is a good idea


    Quoting: Jameshgfgn
    You are right about I thing I forgot about the bonus but you can always do it after July 1 (when ever they do it this year) that knocks of 15,900,000 off. Using cap space that they are not going to use other wise and get picks and prospects out of it is a good idea


    Doesn’t work like that, buyout window is before July 1st,
    You have 0 clue how buyouts work in the offseason

    You really go live in a fantasy land
    21 avr. 2020 à 0 h 54
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    Doesn’t work like that, buyout window is before July 1st,
    You have 0 clue how buyouts work in the offseason

    You really go live in a fantasy land

    Buyouts Outside of the Regular Period
    Clubs whom have 1 or more arbitration filings may be permitted to perform a buyout outside of the regular window. This gives teams another opportunity to become cap compliant following an arbitration case.
    You just let soup go to arbitration or any other RFA
    21 avr. 2020 à 0 h 59
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    Buyouts Outside of the Regular Period
    Clubs whom have 1 or more arbitration filings may be permitted to perform a buyout outside of the regular window. This gives teams another opportunity to become cap compliant following an arbitration case.
    You just let soup go to arbitration or any other RFA


    And your whole plan had a cbo in Bobby Ryan you know which isn’t a buyout anytime you want, it will be the Same period as normal buyouts

    Still living in your fantasy land
    21 avr. 2020 à 1 h 1
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    And your whole plan had a cbo in Bobby Ryan you know which isn’t a buyout anytime you want, it will be the Same period as normal buyouts

    Still living in your fantasy land

    You can easily do that deal prior to the other deal involving Tavares with the future Tavares deal in mind
    21 avr. 2020 à 1 h 2
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    And your whole plan had a cbo in Bobby Ryan you know which isn’t a buyout anytime you want, it will be the Same period as normal buyouts

    Still living in your fantasy land

    Aka buy Ryan out during CBO time then do the Tavares deal later with the understanding between the two teams that they are connected
    21 avr. 2020 à 1 h 44
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    Why on earth would any team take on Tavares just to buy him out? Any GM that would agree to buyout Tavares right now would be fired immediately.
    21 avr. 2020 à 10 h 29
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    Quoting: Jameshgfgn
    Aka buy Ryan out during CBO time then do the Tavares deal later with the understanding between the two teams that they are connected


    you honestly dont understand. CBO and normal buyouts will be the same period, dear lord how hard is to follow.
    CBO, Normal Buyout, Tavares Signing bonus...all before the new NHL calendar year of July 1st. Your whole logic is as flawed in every which way, never mind you thinking 2 guys waiving their NMC just to be bought out

    You are a delusional one
     
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