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If Dubas did better on Matthews and Marner Contracts

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Équipe: 2020-21 Maple Leafs de Toronto
Date de création initiale: 14 avr. 2020
Publié: 14 avr. 2020
Mode - plafond salarial: Basique
Description
Matthews 11.5Mx7; Matthews gets money between Eichel and McDavid. He gets more money than Tavares but gets the same term.

Marner 9.5Mx6; Marner gets a fair contract using Rantanen and Aho as comparables.

Leafs save 1.5M and get an extra 2 years on Matthews.
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RFAANSCAP HIT
3750 000 $
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2725 000 $
44 500 000 $
CRÉÉANSCAP HIT
Marner, Mitchell
59 500 000 $
Matthews, Auston
611 500 000 $
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14 avr. 2020 à 21 h 48
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U said the same thing twice
14 avr. 2020 à 22 h 0
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No, Matthews should have gotten JT's contract and no more. He was an RFA
14 avr. 2020 à 22 h 6
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No, Matthews should have gotten JT's contract and no more. He was an RFA


Either way it's better than what Dubas did.
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14 avr. 2020 à 23 h 4
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Marner, Matthews and Tavares are all overpaid by 2M
14 avr. 2020 à 23 h 8
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Marner, Matthews and Tavares are all overpaid by 2M


Agree about Marner. Matthews is 1M overpaid. Tavares was a UFA so you had to overpay to get him.

The money for Matthews is okay just the term is less than what we should have gotten.
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14 avr. 2020 à 23 h 15
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Agree about Marner. Matthews is 1M overpaid. Tavares was a UFA so you had to overpay to get him.

The money for Matthews is okay just the term is less than what we should have gotten.


No you didn’t have to overpay to get Tavares. He was going to Toronto from the start there was no competition.
14 avr. 2020 à 23 h 17
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No you didn’t have to overpay to get Tavares. He was going to Toronto from the start there was no competition.


Wrong. The Sharks offered him 15 million.
15 avr. 2020 à 1 h 9
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I don't have a problem with the value of AM contract. It is the term that is the issue.
and lets be clear about it. It SHOULD have been 8 years.
15 avr. 2020 à 1 h 21
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I don't have a problem with the value of AM contract. It is the term that is the issue.
and lets be clear about it. It SHOULD have been 8 years.


Agreed. Should have been 7 or 8 years at 12M.
15 avr. 2020 à 9 h 29
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No you didn’t have to overpay to get Tavares. He was going to Toronto from the start there was no competition.


Uh yeah there was. The sharks were willing to pay 13 million to get him. The Isles could have offered an 8th year. There was lots of competition.
15 avr. 2020 à 9 h 45
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Wrong. The Sharks offered him 15 million.


wrong
15 avr. 2020 à 9 h 48
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a whole 1.5m!?!?!?!? wooooooowwww!!!
15 avr. 2020 à 11 h 20
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Uh yeah there was. The sharks were willing to pay 13 million to get him. The Isles could have offered an 8th year. There was lots of competition.


He didn’t want to play for them. He even said it had nothing to do with money. If I was Dubas I would have said 9M or take the money they are offering plain and simple. Do you wanna be a leaf or do you wanna make more money.
15 avr. 2020 à 18 h 32
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He didn’t want to play for them. He even said it had nothing to do with money. If I was Dubas I would have said 9M or take the money they are offering plain and simple. Do you wanna be a leaf or do you wanna make more money.


You gotta show you want the player too. If you were GM Tavares would be an Islander and Matthew's would have taken an offer sheet.
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15 avr. 2020 à 18 h 47
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You gotta show you want the player too. If you were GM Tavares would be an Islander and Matthew's would have taken an offer sheet.


Then let them go. Having a team of players who want to play and win is better than having players who want to earn more money than the guy in the next stall.
15 avr. 2020 à 18 h 48
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Then let them go. Having a team of players who want to play and win is better than having players who want to earn more money than the guy in the next stall.


I see you're a Sens fan too.
15 avr. 2020 à 18 h 53
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I see you're a Sens fan too.


Nope Oilers.
16 avr. 2020 à 11 h 36
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Then let them go. Having a team of players who want to play and win is better than having players who want to earn more money than the guy in the next stall.


Very few guys are like that, you'd be the worst team inthe league every year.
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Very few guys are like that, you'd be the worst team inthe league every year.


Toronto is no better with Tavares than they were without. It’s easier to argue they are worse off now because of Tavares’ contract.
17 avr. 2020 à 22 h 19
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Toronto is no better with Tavares than they were without. It’s easier to argue they are worse off now because of Tavares’ contract.


That’s ridiculous, it’s like saying the oilers are worse off with Draisaitl’s contract
17 avr. 2020 à 22 h 23
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That’s ridiculous, it’s like saying the oilers are worse off with Draisaitl’s contract


Draisaitls contract didn’t set the bar for an overpayment on 2 RFAs. Paying Tavares 11M did. Sign him for 9M and Matthews and Marner would probably make 3-4M less combined.
17 avr. 2020 à 22 h 23
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Draisaitls contract didn’t set the bar for an overpayment on 2 RFAs. Paying Tavares 11M did. Sign him for 9M and Matthews and Marner would probably make 3-4M less combined.


Tavares shouldn't have set the bar. He was a UFA and he took max term unlike our RFAs.
17 avr. 2020 à 22 h 31
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Tavares shouldn't have set the bar. He was a UFA and he took max term unlike our RFAs.


He shouldn’t have but he did. Big mistake by Dubas.
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Draisaitls contract didn’t set the bar for an overpayment on 2 RFAs. Paying Tavares 11M did. Sign him for 9M and Matthews and Marner would probably make 3-4M less combined.


No. JT was a UFA with multiple teams in the running for him. Matthews was an RFA and his asking price was probably too high (judging from what he signed for) to get an offer sheet. Their situations were completely different and 11 million is a perfectly fair price for Tavares. He wouldn’t have signed for 9 million no matter where he went and you know that.

Dubas screwed up Matthews contract for sure. But not because of the Tavares contract. As I said, Tavares had a lot more power in the negotiation than Matthews did. Dubas caved because he was scared of Matthews holding out like Nylander did. And as a result, he was forced to overpay Marner. But Tavares’ contract isn’t responsible for any of that.
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No. JT was a UFA with multiple teams in the running for him. Matthews was an RFA and his asking price was probably too high (judging from what he signed for) to get an offer sheet. Their situations were completely different and 11 million is a perfectly fair price for Tavares. He wouldn’t have signed for 9 million no matter where he went and you know that.

Dubas screwed up Matthews contract for sure. But not because of the Tavares contract. As I said, Tavares had a lot more power in the negotiation than Matthews did. Dubas caved because he was scared of Matthews holding out like Nylander did. And as a result, he was forced to overpay Marner. But Tavares’ contract isn’t responsible for any of that.


Agreed. Tavares was good but he goofed on Matthews and then Marner wanted the same.
 
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