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leafs 2020-21 final solution

Créé par: Silverbug
Équipe: 2020-21 Maple Leafs de Toronto
Date de création initiale: 12 avr. 2020
Publié: 12 avr. 2020
Mode - plafond salarial: Basique
Signatures de joueurs autonomes
RFAANSCAP HIT
21 500 000 $
2800 000 $
2850 000 $
11 500 000 $
UFAANSCAP HIT
1750 000 $
1850 000 $
CRÉÉANSCAP HIT
Mikhail, Grigorenko
11 750 000 $
Transactions
TOR
  1. Manson, Josh (2 000 000 $ retained)
ANA
  1. Johnsson, Andreas
  2. Liljegren, Timothy
  3. Choix de 2e ronde en 2021 (TOR)
Rachats de contrats
Transactions impliquant une retenue de salaire
Repêchage1e ronde2e ronde3e ronde4e ronde5e ronde6e ronde7e ronde
2020
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2021
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2022
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TAILLE DE LA FORMATIONPLAFOND SALARIALCAP HITEXCÉDENTS Info-bulleBONISESPACE SOUS LE PLAFOND SALARIAL
2181 500 000 $79 299 783 $0 $0 $2 200 217 $
Ailier gaucheCentreAilier droit
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2 250 000 $2 250 000 $
AD, AG
M-NTC
UFA - 1
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11 640 250 $11 640 250 $
C
UFA - 4
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10 903 000 $10 903 000 $
AD
UFA - 5
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3 500 000 $3 500 000 $
AG, C, AD
UFA - 3
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11 000 000 $11 000 000 $
C, AG
NMC
UFA - 5
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6 962 366 $6 962 366 $
AD
UFA - 4
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1 500 000 $1 500 000 $
AG, AD
UFA - 2
Mikhail, Grigorenko
1 750 000 $1 750 000 $
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3 200 000 $3 200 000 $
AD
UFA - 2
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925 000 $925 000 $
AD, AG
UFA - 1
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750 000 $750 000 $
C, AD
UFA - 1
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1 250 000 $1 250 000 $
AD, AG
UFA - 2
Défenseur gaucherDéfenseur droitierGardien de but
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5 000 000 $5 000 000 $
DG
M-NTC
UFA - 2
Logo de Ducks d'Anaheim
50 000 $50 000 $
DD
M-NTC
UFA - 2
Logo de Maple Leafs de Toronto
5 000 000 $5 000 000 $
G
M-NTC
UFA - 1
Logo de Maple Leafs de Toronto
5 625 000 $5 625 000 $
DG
NMC
UFA - 4
Logo de Maple Leafs de Toronto
2 000 000 $2 000 000 $
DD
M-NTC
UFA - 3
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1 650 000 $1 650 000 $
G
UFA - 2
Logo de Maple Leafs de Toronto
894 167 $894 167 $
DG
UFA - 2
Logo de Maple Leafs de Toronto
1 500 000 $1 500 000 $
DG/DD
UFA - 1
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750 000 $750 000 $
DG
UFA - 1

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12 avr. 2020 à 3 h 56
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I know that when it comes to proposing trades on this site there is bound to be disagreement. However, this is just silly. Why would we retain salary and then take subpar players that really don't fit the trajectory of the Ducks ? That said, one thing you did get right is Timmy could be in a possible trade later down the road. But, this will never happen due to the term and retention. Only chance this could happen is on his contract year at the deadline. Anytime before that it will require a bit more. Nevertheless, its funny that this fanbase seems fixated on Manson but always undervalues him , proposes terrible trades for the organization and then sticks him on the first pairing. Not to say Manson is this top 2 dman but he has much more value at 2yrs and 2.1 mill imo.
12 avr. 2020 à 4 h 5
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I know that when it comes to proposing trades on this site there is bound to be disagreement. However, this is just silly. Why would we retain salary and then take subpar players that really don't fit the trajectory of the Ducks ? That said, one thing you did get right is Timmy could be in a possible trade later down the road. But, this will never happen due to the term and retention. Only chance this could happen is on his contract year at the deadline. Anytime before that it will require a bit more. Nevertheless, its funny that this fanbase seems fixated on Manson but always undervalues him , proposes terrible trades for the organization and then sticks him on the first pairing. Not to say Manson is this top 2 dman but he has much more value at 2yrs and 2.1 mill imo.


Imo this is a pretty fair offer, maybe replace Johnsson with Kerfoot? It replaces the RD need instantly. However i wouldnt move Manson unless youve already drafted Drysdale. Idk what your mean by "term and retention is for too long" its literally only a season.
12 avr. 2020 à 4 h 13
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@Ledge_And_Dairy I understand you're not a ducks fan. Probably don't focus on them too much. Cant Balme you especially considering how we played the last two years but these players and proposals do nothing for our future. Like I said this can happen on this contract year but with 2 years left Drysdale or not we are better off keeping him. No need to get rid of our best RD(sad to say that) for top 6/top9 guys when we can have 18-23 yo in our system play. Kerfoot is worse imo he will take mins away from those we need to develop. Plus, we have two other guys who fill his role in Henrique and Silfverberg.
12 avr. 2020 à 4 h 21
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@Ledge_And_Dairy no no no no. I understand you're not a ducks fan. Probably don't focus on them too much. Cant Balme you especially considering how we played the last two years but these players and proposals do nothing for our future. Like I said this can happen on this contract year but with 2 years left Drysdale or not we are better off keeping him. No need to get rid of our best RD(sad to say that) for top 6/top9 guys when we can have 18-23 yo in our system play. Kerfoot is worse imo he will take mins away from those we need to develop. Plus, we have two other guys who fill his role in Henrique and Silfverberg.


Im also not a leafs fan and have been a major defender in Manson going to the leafs needing to involve Liljegren. As for finding a replacement for Manson, I think its less difficult then you think. Ofc I think its very important that Drysdale be drafted first, but LA was able to fill holes this year with a guy like Hutton to stopgap their rebuild
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12 avr. 2020 à 4 h 37
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@Ledge_And_Dairy I also think Manson is replaceable and the trade value in a way does match but they give us the wrong tools ya dig? If we are gonna give him up with two years left on his contract we better get something to help us in the future and any asset the leafs offer us that is reasonable doesn't help unless its draft picks and Liljegren.

I don't take Drysdale's value lightly but he wont be nhl ready in 1-2 years? And we have no RD in the system. I just don't see the need to accept this trade for the value in return.

Edit: misspelled last name
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12 avr. 2020 à 7 h 58
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I gag at the thought of having Grigorenko playing 3C (or any minutes) on my team. Leafs really can't depend on going on 21man roster being successful.
Manson really isn't that special anymore.....though so many on CapFriendly think the Leaf have to give up so much just to go obtain any RHD.
Does any one really think that Manson is going to be the difference Leaf being "successful" or not. At some time the Leafs are going to to with cost efficient ELCs instead of wasting cap/assets to obtain average veterans
12 avr. 2020 à 8 h 35
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Don't use the expression final solution. Just... Don't
12 avr. 2020 à 9 h 24
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Manson will not come that cheap. Also why Forsberg? What’s he gonna he useful for?
12 avr. 2020 à 9 h 36
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Quoting: palhal
I gag at the thought of having Grigorenko playing 3C (or any minutes) on my team. Leafs really can't depend on going on 21man roster being successful.
Manson really isn't that special anymore.....though so many on CapFriendly think the Leaf have to give up so much just to go obtain any RHD.
Does any one really think that Manson is going to be the difference Leaf being "successful" or not. At some time the Leafs are going to to with cost efficient ELCs instead of wasting cap/assets to obtain average veterans


Ideally would do something similar to get Hamilton or Pesce but they are likely not available.... Pietangelo is to expensive... Just dont see much available. As for Grigorenko.... If he doesnt work out he can released and we still have Kerfoot/Spezza/Gauthier to play center. I just think this lineup leaves the most flexibility to enter the season with... Players that can be moved around easily to fill holes in the lineup due to under performance or injury.
12 avr. 2020 à 9 h 37
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Manson will not come that cheap. Also why Forsberg? What’s he gonna he useful for?


AHL call up if a goalie gets injured
12 avr. 2020 à 9 h 53
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Ideally would do something similar to get Hamilton or Pesce but they are likely not available.... Pietangelo is to expensive... Just dont see much available. As for Grigorenko.... If he doesnt work out he can released and we still have Kerfoot/Spezza/Gauthier to play center. I just think this lineup leaves the most flexibility to enter the season with... Players that can be moved around easily to fill holes in the lineup due to under performance or injury.


So Grigorenko can be released? He would then cost the Leafs 650,000 in cap.
12 avr. 2020 à 10 h 2
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So Grigorenko can be released? He would then cost the Leafs 650,000 in cap.


Yes... This were you rely on your scouting to let you know if he is capable. It is a little gamble but not something that sinks the team if not successful. Worth the gamble I think.
12 avr. 2020 à 10 h 18
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AHL call up if a goalie gets injured


But now you’re taking ice time away from Woll and Scott when he’s not called up
12 avr. 2020 à 10 h 33
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But now you’re taking ice time away from Woll and Scott when he’s not called up


3rd string goalie is needed for short term injury call ups. neither Woll nor Scott are ready. Lots of ice time options like Scott to ECHL to start the season, Loan Forsberg to another AHL team. Im sure Ice time will not be an issue.
12 avr. 2020 à 10 h 49
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3rd string goalie is needed for short term injury call ups. neither Woll nor Scott are ready. Lots of ice time options like Scott to ECHL to start the season, Loan Forsberg to another AHL team. Im sure Ice time will not be an issue.


Loaning might be an option. However if there’s an injury, I would bet the leafs would try and play the guy that’s healthy a bit more frequently anyways. Andersen can play a few games straight and seems to get better, and I feel like Campbell can hold his own for a while. If you really have a goalie need, Holding onto Kaskisuo may be an option
12 avr. 2020 à 11 h 13
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Loaning might be an option. However if there’s an injury, I would bet the leafs would try and play the guy that’s healthy a bit more frequently anyways. Andersen can play a few games straight and seems to get better, and I feel like Campbell can hold his own for a while. If you really have a goalie need, Holding onto Kaskisuo may be an option


Sure Kaslisuo is an option just went with Forsberg as he has filled this role over the last few seasons (48 games in NHL). Just thinking he is an upgrade. May never need him but nice to have.
 
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