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Alright - heres a dynasty

Créé par: Wqrrior
Date de création initiale: avr 7, 2020
Publié: Apr 7 at 12:53 am
Équipe: 2020-21 Avalanche du Colorado
Signatures de joueurs autonomes
RFAANNÉESCAP HIT
Burakovsky, André64 850 000 $
Nichushkin, Valeri21 850 000 $
Weegar, MacKenzie42 850 000 $
Graves, Ryan12 500 000 $
O'Connor, Logan2925 000 $
Dries, Sheldon2750 000 $
UFAANNÉESCAP HIT
Hutchinson, Michael1750 000 $
Shore, Nick1850 000 $
Transactions
COL
  1. Rakell, Rickard
ANA
  1. Timmins, Conor
  2. Kamenev, Vladislav [Droits de RFA]
  3. 2021 1e round pick (COL)
  4. 2022 2e round pick (COL)
Détails additionnels:
Lottery protected 1st

If COL makes the SCF in 2021 or 2022 where Rakell plays at least half of the playoff games, ANA gets a 2022 2nd
COL
  1. Weegar, MacKenzie [Droits de RFA]
FLA
  1. Jost, Tyson [Droits de RFA]
  2. Greer, AJ [Droits de RFA]
COL
  1. 2021 2e round pick (DAL)
  2. 2022 4e round pick (DAL)
DAL
  1. Zadorov, Nikita [Droits de RFA]
ANNÉE DE REPÊCHAGERONDE 1RONDE 2RONDE 3RONDE 4RONDE 5RONDE 6RONDE 7
2020
COL
TOR
COL
COL
FLA
COL
2021
COL
DAL
COL
COL
COL
COL
2022
COL
COL
COL
DAL
COL
COL
COL
TAILLE DE LA FORMATIONPLAFOND SALARIALCAP HITEXCÉDENTS BONISESPACE SOUS LE PLAFOND SALARIAL
2481 500 000 $79 311 706 $0 $5 425 000 $2 188 294 $
Ailier gaucheCentreAilier droit
COL
Burakovsky, André
4 850 000 $
AG, AD
RFA
COL
MacKinnon, Nathan
6 300 000 $
C, AD
NTC
UFA - 3
COL
Rantanen, Mikko
9 250 000 $
AD
UFA - 5
COL
Landeskog, Gabriel
5 571 429 $
AG
NTC
UFA - 1
COL
Kadri, Nazem
4 500 000 $
C
NTC
UFA - 2
ANA
Rakell, Rickard
3 789 444 $
C, AD, AG
UFA - 2
COL
Nichushkin, Valeri
1 850 000 $
AG, AD
RFA
COL
Compher, J.T.
3 500 000 $
AD, C
UFA - 3
COL
Donskoi, Joonas
3 900 000 $
AD
UFA - 3
COL
Calvert, Matt
2 850 000 $
AG, AD
UFA - 1
COL
Bellemare, Pierre-Édouard
1 800 000 $
AG, C
UFA - 1
COL
Kaut, Martin
894 167 $
C
RFA - 2
Défenseur gaucherDéfenseur droitierGardien de but
COL
Graves, Ryan
2 500 000 $
DG
RFA
COL
Makar, Cale
880 833 $
DD
RFA - 1
COL
Grubauer, Philipp
3 333 333 $
G
UFA - 1
COL
Girard, Samuel
5 000 000 $
DG
UFA - 7
Weegar, MacKenzie
2 850 000 $
DD
RFA
COL
Francouz, Pavel
2 000 000 $
G
UFA - 2
COL
Cole, Ian
4 250 000 $
DG
UFA - 1
COL
Johnson, Erik
6 000 000 $
DD
NMC NTC
UFA - 3
COL
Byram, Bowen
925 000 $
DG
RFA - 2
Laissés de côtéListe des blessés (IR)Liste des blessés à long terme (LTIR)
Shore, Nick
850 000 $
C
UFA
COL
O'Connor, Logan
925 000 $
AD
RFA
COL
Lindholm, Anton
742 500 $
DG
RFA - 1

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7 avr à 0 h 55
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kobe
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I like the look but why would they need Weegar if Byram is already nhl ready? Other then that I think team looks good
7 avr à 0 h 59
#2
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Wqrrior
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Quoting: kobeottosen
I like the look but why would they need Weegar if Byram is already nhl ready? Other then that I think team looks good


I am doubtful on Byram's defense being NHL ready. I think he gets 9 games then plays the rest in the WHL. I've watched him play live multiple times as a vancouver resident, and his defensive game is gnarly. His offensive game is definitely ready though, and he is already a master on the powerplay.

Still though, Byram is a LHD, not a RHD. Weegar essentially replaces Timmins spot on the right side. Byram will claim Cole's spot full time after next season.
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7 avr à 1 h 04
#3
kobe
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Quoting: Wqrrior
I am doubtful on Byram's defense being NHL ready. I think he gets 9 games then plays the rest in the WHL. I've watched him play live multiple times as a vancouver resident, and his defensive game is gnarly. His offensive game is definitely ready though, and he is already a master on the powerplay.

Still though, Byram is a LHD, not a RHD. Weegar essentially replaces Timmins spot on the right side. Byram will claim Cole's spot full time after next season.


I have not got a chance to watch him really but from what I've heard is that he will be ready soon but anyways I think the team looks great
7 avr à 1 h 12
#4
Rejoint: déc 2017
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I can definitely see them becoming a dynasty but I feel like they have to win the cup or make it to the finals this year in order to capitalize on the momentum they've built. A first round exit this year would be a massive disappointment
7 avr à 1 h 15
#5
Not a burger anymore
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They'd need to move Johnson to make this work, otherwise they lose Graves or Weegar to Seattle for free. Graves should still remain as RFA after that year due to playing so few professional years...
7 avr à 1 h 16
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Quoting: Jesus
I can definitely see them becoming a dynasty but I feel like they have to win the cup or make it to the finals this year in order to capitalize on the momentum they've built. A first round exit this year would be a massive disappointment


This year as in the playoffs of 2019-20 or 20-21?

I agree completely if 20-21. As for this year, if the season played out as normal the injury concerns could have easily caused an understandable first round exit. Even if the playoffs did return, I don't think anyone can expect anything this year - everyone would be rusty in their performance and not ready for the high intensity nature of playoff hockey.

Starting next year, I think this team can do some serious damage.
7 avr à 1 h 18
#7
GoCanada
Rejoint: déc 2017
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I'll send you Kyle Connor+2021 1st for J.T Compher+Bowen Byram+Martin Kaut
7 avr à 1 h 19
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Quoting: justaBoss
They'd need to move Johnson to make this work, otherwise they lose Graves or Weegar to Seattle for free. Graves should still remain as RFA after that year due to playing so few professional years...


I think Donskoi is the throwaway here. Him or Compher. Defenseman are widely available on most teams. COL is one of few that has some forward depth to peer into. I see Compher as the seattle 2C. Even then, it's not a massive blow to COL as they will have a prospect ready to play once he is gone.
COL has almost perfectly managed the domino effect that is contract management and the expansion draft in timing with their prospect's development. There's always a position waiting at the perfect time for each prospect.
7 avr à 1 h 19
#9
Rejoint: mai 2017
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1. Trade values look good and appropriate you get points there

2. Compher just seems like a weak 3C for a cup contender, but his wings make up for that i guess? idk

3. Your big 4 contracts are low, even for a stagnant cap they're low by about 500k-1mil each. Which normally wouldn't be a big deal, but 4 contracts an average of 750k off puts you above the cap.

EW has your term (for an 81.5 cap) at

Burakovsky 6 yr = 5.465 mil
Nichushkin 2 yr = 2.515 mil
Weegar 4 yr = 3.834 mil
Graves 1 yr = 3.160 mil

And I wouldn't expect a ton of team friendly deals from 4 players who have had 1 full season with the Avs in the NHL at most.
7 avr à 1 h 20
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Quoting: jassan28
I'll send you Kyle Connor+2021 1st for J.T Compher+Bowen Byram+Martin Kaut


Nope.
Why Rakell works so flawlessly is the contract overlaps one year into Makar and Landeskog's extension. Connor makes signing Landeskog nearly impossible. Rakell and that extra year buys COL the perfect amount of cap freedom.
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7 avr à 1 h 23
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Quoting: Sagecoll
1. Trade values look good and appropriate you get points there

2. Compher just seems like a weak 3C for a cup contender, but his wings make up for that i guess? idk

3. Your big 4 contracts are low, even for a stagnant cap they're low by about 500k-1mil each. Which normally wouldn't be a big deal, but 4 contracts an average of 750k off puts you above the cap.

EW has your term (for an 81.5 cap) at

Burakovsky 6 yr = 5.465 mil
Nichushkin 2 yr = 2.515 mil
Weegar 4 yr = 3.834 mil
Graves 1 yr = 3.160 mil

And I wouldn't expect a ton of team friendly deals from 4 players who have had 1 full season with the Avs in the NHL at most.


I have never seen Weegar at that cap hit before. At 4 years almost everyone has him around 3M.
I'd raise Val to 2.25M at 2 years.
Bura at that cap is too steep to be reasonable. I'd consider 5M, but the term is the big thing for a guy who really only has one good season to his name.
Graves at 3M for 1 year is also steep. 1Y buys no UFA years, and Graves is improving, not declining.

There's 2.2M in cap with a 24 man roster, so really 3M. The adjustments I'm willing to make keep the team under the cap.
7 avr à 1 h 23
#12
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Quoting: Wqrrior
I think Donskoi is the throwaway here. Him or Compher. Defenseman are widely available on most teams. COL is one of few that has some forward depth to peer into. I see Compher as the seattle 2C. Even then, it's not a massive blow to COL as they will have a prospect ready to play once he is gone.
COL has almost perfectly managed the domino effect that is contract management and the expansion draft in timing with their prospect's development. There's always a position waiting at the perfect time for each prospect.


Yeah, Sakic have done great job with the prospects.

Regardless, if I were Francis and I had to make a choice between Graves, Weegar, Compher or Donskoi, my vote would immediately go for the d-men because they're both younger and play in great level. Graves' +/- this year is f*cking +40. That's insane for a D that plays with under $1M deal...
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7 avr à 1 h 29
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Quoting: justaBoss
Yeah, Sakic have done great job with the prospects.

Regardless, if I were Francis and I had to make a choice between Graves, Weegar, Compher or Donskoi, my vote would immediately go for the d-men because they're both younger and play in great level. Graves' +/- this year is f*cking +40. That's insane for a D that plays with under $1M deal...


Teams have to take chances though. Obviously nobody wants to lose something for nothing, but that's the reality of a playoff team. Besides, if Byram is good enough he very well could lead to Graves getting moved before the deadline due to that reason.
I see you expressing lots of concern, whether Dallas or other teams about buying guys that could potentially be taken at the draft - but that's a risk contending teams have to take. Considering Graves came out of nowhere, losing him is at minimal overall hurt to the franchise if Byram is right there to fill his spot.
I don't see teams just waiting an entire year to make a splash in a trade and lose a year of competition out of fear.
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7 avr à 1 h 29
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Quoting: Wqrrior
I have never seen Weegar at that cap hit before. At 4 years almost everyone has him around 3M.
I'd raise Val to 2.25M at 2 years.
Bura at that cap is too steep to be reasonable. I'd consider 5M, but the term is the big thing for a guy who really only has one good season to his name.
Graves at 3M for 1 year is also steep. 1Y buys no UFA years, and Graves is improving, not declining.

There's 2.2M in cap with a 24 man roster, so really 3M. The adjustments I'm willing to make keep the team under the cap.



These aren't my numbers, these come from Evolving Wild. They hit within 750k on 90% of UFA's and RFA's last year, including the top 20 most expensive contracts. I'm gonna trust their numbers, they seem to know what they're doing.
7 avr à 1 h 32
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Quoting: Sagecoll
These aren't my numbers, these come from Evolving Wild. They hit within 750k on 90% of UFA's and RFA's last year, including the top 20 most expensive contracts. I'm gonna trust their numbers, they seem to know what they're doing.


In the year of 2020, there's no normal. I think lots of players will take 1 year gamble years and wait for the cap to rise before getting long term contracts.
Teams also won't be handing out as big of money as they otherwise would. If that were the case, we would be seeing extensions now. So far we haven't seen a 7 digit contract after a month of no play. Players are waiting for certainty, and in the end I see less money being dealt than the average would suggest.
7 avr à 1 h 46
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Quoting: Wqrrior
Teams have to take chances though. Obviously nobody wants to lose something for nothing, but that's the reality of a playoff team. Besides, if Byram is good enough he very well could lead to Graves getting moved before the deadline due to that reason.
I see you expressing lots of concern, whether Dallas or other teams about buying guys that could potentially be taken at the draft - but that's a risk contending teams have to take. Considering Graves came out of nowhere, losing him is at minimal overall hurt to the franchise if Byram is right there to fill his spot.
I don't see teams just waiting an entire year to make a splash in a trade and lose a year of competition out of fear.


Yeah to be fair I despise the thought of losing someone for free, although it's impossible to avoid it.

But if there's solutions that can help in that regard, I'd go for it.
7 avr à 1 h 49
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Quoting: justaBoss
Yeah to be fair I despise the thought of losing someone for free, although it's impossible to avoid it.

But if there's solutions that can help in that regard, I'd go for it.


Moving Graves at the deadline for assets in a perfect world (given a ready Byram) is that "solution". Losing Donskoi isn't as detrimental given that he came for free out of July 1. Buy free, lose for free. They got their worth. Compher is a bit harder to swallow, but the difference isn't so drastic that they may see it worthwhile to pay a slight bonus to take Donskoi.

I think there's options with this team and a lot of variety as to who SEA can pick. Due to that, COL can pull the strings for their team's best interest. Besides, at the end of the day, no matter who is picked, this is still a lethal competitor.
7 avr à 1 h 52
#18
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Quoting: Sagecoll


2. Compher just seems like a weak 3C for a cup contender, but his wings make up for that i guess? idk
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Compher isn’t weak, he’s just streaky which happens with bottom 6 guys that are borderline 2nd line players. He has a knack for showing up big when needed. There is a reason Sakic signed him to the extension.
7 avr à 2 h 05
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Quoting: Wqrrior
This year as in the playoffs of 2019-20 or 20-21?

I agree completely if 20-21. As for this year, if the season played out as normal the injury concerns could have easily caused an understandable first round exit. Even if the playoffs did return, I don't think anyone can expect anything this year - everyone would be rusty in their performance and not ready for the high intensity nature of playoff hockey.

Starting next year, I think this team can do some serious damage.


Yeah that's true by the time the playoffs do start (I think we'll have the playoffs this year in the summer) It'll basically be like coming back from the offseason. I think they should have at least a couple of tune up games if possible so teams don't just jump right in. But I still think either them or St. Louis come out of the west this year
7 avr à 2 h 11
#20
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Quoting: Xqb15
Compher isn’t weak, he’s just streaky which happens with bottom 6 guys that are borderline 2nd line players. He has a knack for showing up big when needed. There is a reason Sakic signed him to the extension.


He's defensively strong for sure. But essentially the entire Avs team performs better offensively when he's not on the ice...

Screen-Shot-2020-04-07-at-2-04-00-AM

He'd make a solid 4th line defensive C. But he's going to need volume shooters and offensive play drivers at his wings. I like his defense though.
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7 avr à 11 h 14
#21
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Quoting: Sagecoll
He's defensively strong for sure. But essentially the entire Avs team performs better offensively when he's not on the ice...

Screen-Shot-2020-04-07-at-2-04-00-AM

He'd make a solid 4th line defensive C. But he's going to need volume shooters and offensive play drivers at his wings. I like his defense though.


Pay site for that data or free?
7 avr à 11 h 19
#22
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Quoting: Xqb15
Pay site for that data or free?


that particular data is free: https://hockeyviz.com/team/COL/1920
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