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Créé par: dboy81
Équipe: 2020-21 Canucks de Vancouver
Date de création initiale: 2 avr. 2020
Publié: 2 avr. 2020
Mode - plafond salarial: Basique
Signatures de joueurs autonomes
LISTE DE RÉSERVEANSCAP HIT
1875 000 $
3891 666 $
RFAANSCAP HIT
31 250 000 $
21 250 000 $
22 850 000 $
2975 000 $
1975 000 $
1800 000 $
UFAANSCAP HIT
22 000 000 $
45 200 000 $
55 750 000 $
45 500 000 $
Transactions
VAN
  1. Choix de 5e ronde en 2021 (BUF)
NJD
  1. Baertschi, Sven
  2. Choix de 3e ronde en 2021 (VAN)
Rachats de contrats
Frais appliqués
Repêchage1e ronde2e ronde3e ronde4e ronde5e ronde6e ronde7e ronde
2020
Logo de VAN
Logo de VAN
Logo de VAN
Logo de VAN
Logo de ANA
2021
Logo de VAN
Logo de VAN
Logo de VAN
Logo de VAN
Logo de BUF
Logo de VAN
Logo de VAN
2022
Logo de VAN
Logo de VAN
Logo de VAN
Logo de VAN
Logo de VAN
Logo de VAN
Logo de VAN
TAILLE DE LA FORMATIONPLAFOND SALARIALCAP HITEXCÉDENTS Info-bulleBONISESPACE SOUS LE PLAFOND SALARIAL
2281 500 000 $81 351 879 $1 700 000 $3 700 000 $148 121 $

Formation

Ailier gaucheCentreAilier droit
Logo de Canucks de Vancouver
5 250 000 $5 250 000 $
C, AG, AD
UFA - 3
Logo de Canucks de Vancouver
925 000 $925 000 $ (Bonis de performance2 850 000 $$3M)
C, AG
UFA - 1
Logo de Canucks de Vancouver
5 200 000 $5 200 000 $
AD, AG
UFA - 4
Logo de Canucks de Vancouver
3 750 000 $3 750 000 $
AG
UFA - 1
Logo de Canucks de Vancouver
4 125 000 $4 125 000 $
C
UFA - 3
Logo de Canucks de Vancouver
5 875 000 $5 875 000 $
AD
UFA - 2
Logo de Canucks de Vancouver
2 000 000 $2 000 000 $
AD, AG
UFA - 1
Logo de Canucks de Vancouver
1 250 000 $1 250 000 $
C, AD
UFA - 1
Logo de Canucks de Vancouver
2 850 000 $2 850 000 $
AD, AG
UFA - 2
Logo de Canucks de Vancouver
3 000 000 $3 000 000 $
AG
M-NTC
UFA - 2
Logo de Canucks de Vancouver
3 000 000 $3 000 000 $
C
M-NTC
UFA - 2
Logo de Canucks de Vancouver
1 250 000 $1 250 000 $
AG, AD
UFA - 2
Défenseur gaucherDéfenseur droitierGardien de but
Logo de Canucks de Vancouver
916 667 $916 667 $ (Bonis de performance850 000 $$850K)
DG
UFA - 1
Logo de Canucks de Vancouver
5 500 000 $5 500 000 $
DD
UFA - 4
Logo de Canucks de Vancouver
5 750 000 $5 750 000 $
G
UFA - 6
Logo de Canucks de Vancouver
6 000 000 $6 000 000 $
DG
NMC
UFA - 1
Logo de Canucks de Vancouver
6 000 000 $6 000 000 $
DD
NTC
UFA - 4
Logo de Canucks de Vancouver
875 000 $875 000 $
DG
RFA
Logo de Canucks de Vancouver
2 000 000 $2 000 000 $
DG/DD
M-NTC
UFA - 1
Logo de Canucks de Vancouver
1 050 000 $1 050 000 $
G
UFA - 1
Laissés de côtéListe des blessés (IR)Liste des blessés à long terme (LTIR)
Logo de Canucks de Vancouver
975 000 $975 000 $
AD, C
UFA - 2
Logo de Canucks de Vancouver
3 500 000 $3 500 000 $
AG, AD
NMC
UFA - 3
Logo de Canucks de Vancouver
6 000 000 $6 000 000 $
AG, AD
M-NTC
UFA - 2

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2 avr. 2020 à 14 h 15
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laugh laugh Bertuzzi for Demko, Demko is nothing but a career backup goalie at best, Sorry they've very little value. And Bertuzzi will command at least 5 x 5.5 doubt he signs that low.
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2 avr. 2020 à 14 h 33
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Quoting: DiehardRedWingsFan58
laugh laugh Bertuzzi for Demko, Demko is nothing but a career backup goalie at best, Sorry they've very little value. And Bertuzzi will command at least 5 x 5.5 doubt he signs that low.


Thanks for the input, I wasn't sure how much Bertuzzi would cost in his next contract, i thought a bridge deal on a new team might be something conceivable. In this situation i could afford to give him another 925K in a bridge type contract. Obviously you think the trade wouldn't even get done if it was just Demko so i appreciate you're input, but I personally think that Demko has the potential to be a starting goaltender sooner rather than later. Maybe the Canucks need to add for this trade to happen, would a pick and a prospect get it done? example: 2021 3rd & Kole Lind? Or what would Detroit have that the Canucks should consider in a trade with Demko?
2 avr. 2020 à 14 h 38
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Quoting: dboy81
Thanks for the input, I wasn't sure how much Bertuzzi would cost in his next contract, i thought a bridge deal on a new team might be something conceivable. In this situation i could afford to give him another 925K in a bridge type contract. Obviously you think the trade wouldn't even get done if it was just Demko so i appreciate you're input, but I personally think that Demko has the potential to be a starting goaltender sooner rather than later. Maybe the Canucks need to add for this trade to happen, would a pick and a prospect get it done? example: 2021 3rd & Kole Lind? Or what would Detroit have that the Canucks should consider in a trade with Demko?


Bernier at 31 had about the same numbers as Demko playing on the worst team in the league.
2 avr. 2020 à 14 h 40
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Quoting: dboy81
Thanks for the input, I wasn't sure how much Bertuzzi would cost in his next contract, i thought a bridge deal on a new team might be something conceivable. In this situation i could afford to give him another 925K in a bridge type contract. Obviously you think the trade wouldn't even get done if it was just Demko so i appreciate you're input, but I personally think that Demko has the potential to be a starting goaltender sooner rather than later. Maybe the Canucks need to add for this trade to happen, would a pick and a prospect get it done? example: 2021 3rd & Kole Lind? Or what would Detroit have that the Canucks should consider in a trade with Demko?


Probably nothing as i see Detroit having zero interest in Thatcher Demko, If i'm Yzerman i'm looking at either Georgiev or possibly Matt Murray if either are moved. Short term possibly Halak. Until our kids are ready.
2 avr. 2020 à 14 h 51
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Bernier at 31 had about the same numbers as Demko playing on the worst team in the league.


Quoting: DiehardRedWingsFan58
Probably nothing as i see Detroit having zero interest in Thatcher Demko, If i'm Yzerman i'm looking at either Georgiev or possibly Matt Murray if either are moved. Short term possibly Halak. Until our kids are ready.


I understand that Demko's numbers don't pop off yet, but looking at how he has excelled in every league he has played in, he shows that he has what it takes to become a starting goaltender. But if Detroit isn't interested then that's fine. Other than Bertuzzi, i don't see anything that would peak the Canucks interest either.

What is the ask for Georgiev or Murray? and does Detroit have anything that NYR or PITT would want?..
2 avr. 2020 à 15 h 21
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I understand that Demko's numbers don't pop off yet, but looking at how he has excelled in every league he has played in, he shows that he has what it takes to become a starting goaltender. But if Detroit isn't interested then that's fine. Other than Bertuzzi, i don't see anything that would peak the Canucks interest either.

What is the ask for Georgiev or Murray? and does Detroit have anything that NYR or PITT would want?..


I've not seen a Murray trade I'd accept since winning the cup he is 32nd in SV% and 40th in GAA. Georgiev is a back up if he stays in NY and Shesterkin's play has shown that and that why a 2nd and Hirose is the highest I go for him. If Demko is so good why trade him? Markstrom is 30 and Domingue isn't a starter either and DiPietro has worse numbers than Jimmy Howard this season. So why move Demko unless you already know he is only just a back up.
2 avr. 2020 à 16 h 0
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Quoting: DiehardRedWingsFan58
laugh laugh Bertuzzi for Demko, Demko is nothing but a career backup goalie at best, Sorry they've very little value. And Bertuzzi will command at least 5 x 5.5 doubt he signs that low.


Quoting: aedoran
Bernier at 31 had about the same numbers as Demko playing on the worst team in the league.


While I agree that goalies don't have a lot of trade value in general, and there's no way DET trades Bertuzzi for Demko, saying he's a career backup is way too early to call. He might have the same trajectory as Bernier (highly touted prospect that actually became a career backup) or he could still develop into a starter. He's a 24 YO with a whopping 37 NHL games played, and most goalies don't peak until their late 20's. I'm hoping the Canucks hold onto him. Also, the Canucks were one of the worst defensive teams in the league this year, it was their offense and goalies that often got them wins.
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I've not seen a Murray trade I'd accept since winning the cup he is 32nd in SV% and 40th in GAA. Georgiev is a back up if he stays in NY and Shesterkin's play has shown that and that why a 2nd and Hirose is the highest I go for him. If Demko is so good why trade him? Markstrom is 30 and Domingue isn't a starter either and DiPietro has worse numbers than Jimmy Howard this season. So why move Demko unless you already know he is only just a back up.


The reason I would entertain a Demko trade is because the Canucks would be extending Markstrom. From the perspective of asset management, I purposed that the Canucks should move Demko out before the expansion draft because I don't see a situation where he isn't picked. If they could flip him to a team who is in dire need of a goalie then maybe the Canucks can get someone who they can protect in the expansion draft.

Quoting: alwaysnextyear
While I agree that goalies don't have a lot of trade value in general, and there's no way DET trades Bertuzzi for Demko, saying he's a career backup is way too early to call. He might have the same trajectory as Bernier (highly touted prospect that actually became a career backup) or he could still develop into a starter. He's a 24 YO with a whopping 37 NHL games played, and most goalies don't peak until their late 20's. I'm hoping the Canucks hold onto him. Also, the Canucks were one of the worst defensive teams in the league this year, it was their offense and goalies that often got them wins.


This is a great point, I've watched the Canucks give up the most high end scoring chances all year yet still win games off the stellar play of both our goalies. I think there is value in Demko, but my main question was how much value did he have to a team in dire need of any sort of improvement.... I can honestly say I didn't pay much attention to the 17-49-5 wings so i didn't put much stock into Bertuzzi, which was obviously naive of myself.
 
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