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Équipe: 2020-21 Maple Leafs de Toronto
Date de création initiale: 2 avr. 2020
Publié: 2 avr. 2020
Mode - plafond salarial: Basique
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So my idea was simple improve the Leafs defense. I think I have accomplished that.

First I traded for Montour giving Kerfoot and Dermott. Montour could fit well with the leafs and he may be an excellent partner for Rielly. Second I traded Ottawa Johnson and Bracco for Nicholas Paul. I believe he would do well with the leafs and develop into an excellent 3c with us. Finally I traded LA Kings a 4th pick for Roy. May be an over-payment but with his current play and that cap price he may work out perfectly for us. Also brought in a KHL goalie (Alexei Krasikov) who is young and could potentially be a suitable replacement for Anderson. So the leafs sign him and place him with the Marlies for a year to see what he's got and maybe allow him to have some NHL games. Also since Barbonov may become a leaf I added him in. Him playing with Mikeyv could be awsome especially if he can replicate what he did in the WC.

Let me know what u think. This could potentially work as not only is the defense improved. But the offense can still produce and we got a goaltender of the future that wont cost us 8 million.
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Barabanov, Alexander
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Krasikov, Alexei
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  2. Johnsson, Andreas
  3. Kivihalme, Teemu [Droits de RFA]
  4. Choix de 7e ronde en 2020 (BUF)
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2 avr. 2020 à 1 h 47
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La says no
Run Ottawa
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La says no
Run Ottawa


LA would take the 4th they dont need Roy. He can be replaced and the pick they receive is already more than what he is worth. As for the Ottawa trade its fine Johnsson has proven to be injury prone and with Kerfoot gone Paul can fit in especially with Byfield potentially getting drafted. As for Bracco could help Ottawa's pp finally get past 10%
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Oh, dude. Way too much for Montour and LA hangs up on you.
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Quoting: LeafsFanForSomeReason
Oh, dude. Way too much for Montour and LA hangs up on you.


I know the montour trade is an overpayment but knowing buffalo fans if I say kerfoot for him they will say hes worth more. I could make it where they give a higher pick but they keep trading most of their picks away thinking they can make the playoffs. As for the LA trade may just ditch it and bring liligren up. He can play with Muzzin. Since Muzzin can be an excellent mentor for young defenseman. He did it with walker so maybe he can help liligren out and make him into a good RD.
2 avr. 2020 à 1 h 58
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LA would take the 4th they dont need Roy. He can be replaced and the pick they receive is already more than what he is worth. As for the Ottawa trade its fine Johnsson has proven to be injury prone and with Kerfoot gone Paul can fit in especially with Byfield potentially getting drafted. As for Bracco could help Ottawa's pp finally get past 10%


LA keeps Roy, he’s serviceable for them, Why you paying that Much for Nick Paul
Johnsson can fetch WAAY more that Nick Pauk
2 avr. 2020 à 2 h 0
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LA keeps Roy, he’s serviceable for them, Why you paying that Much for Nick Paul
Johnsson can fetch WAAY more that Nick Pauk


The main thing is price. Centers especially third lines are not cheap, especially young ones. Paul is currently playing 3c in ottawa so it could work out for the leafs. Sure Johnsson can fetch more but is another team willing to trade their 3c for him maybe but also can the leafs even afford that center. The main thing was looking for a center that would sign for around 2 million and could play on the third line. I plan to change it to where toronto adds Kihume who can help ottawa's defense and add 2nd and third to make it seem more fair . The other center I could see toronto trading for is wallmark but not sure if the panthers will part from him.
2 avr. 2020 à 2 h 26
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The main thing is price. Centers especially third lines are not cheap, especially young ones. Paul is currently playing 3c in ottawa so it could work out for the leafs. Sure Johnsson can fetch more but is another team willing to trade their 3c for him maybe but also can the leafs even afford that center. The main thing was looking for a center that would sign for around 2 million and could play on the third line. I plan to change it to where toronto adds Kihume who can help ottawa's defense and add 2nd and third to make it seem more fair . The other center I could see toronto trading for is wallmark but not sure if the panthers will part from him.


There are better players Younger than Nick Pual. Tyson Jost is one, Howden(more expensive)Wennberg. Bennett.
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There are better players Younger than Nick Pual. Tyson Jost is one, Howden(more expensive)Wennberg. Bennett.


People have been saying bennett but he's playing 4th line lw and he's dropped hard in his level of play and he was mostly a center in his junior years like nylander. I don't see colorado trading jost but could happen. And wennberg is to expensive. I was trying to mostly save costs and Paul of wallmark are perfect candidates for cost saving whole signing longish contracts. Plus Toronto gets some good picks out of it. The other option would be sign ufa Cody eakin to a 4 year 2.5 as he has not played well the past 2 years so could also come cheap
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People have been saying bennett but he's playing 4th line lw and he's dropped hard in his level of play and he was mostly a center in his junior years like nylander. I don't see colorado trading jost but could happen. And wennberg is to expensive. I was trying to mostly save costs and Paul of wallmark are perfect candidates for cost saving whole signing longish contracts. Plus Toronto gets some good picks out of it. The other option would be sign ufa Cody eakin to a 4 year 2.5 as he has not played well the past 2 years so could also come cheap


Eakins staying in Winnipeg
Jost is busting rn, get him and try and change him
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Jost is busting rn, get him and try and change him


I could trade Johnson for jost but another option could be jankowski. Kid is having a bad season but if he can return to his old play he will be a perfect replacement for kerfoot. In general I am not sure colorado will want Johnson as they got some good wingers
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Don't see why Ottawa would trade a cheaper and by your standards a 3C for Johnsson...plus Ottawa gives up the picks. That' a lot to give up for Montour, but he is an right handled so his trade value doubles when traded to the Leafs.
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I think buffalo would rather have a draft pick attached to kerfoot than dermott. we have too many defensemen on nhl contracts as it is.
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Don't see why Ottawa would trade a cheaper and by your standards a 3C for Johnsson...plus Ottawa gives up the picks. That' a lot to give up for Montour, but he is an right handled so his trade value doubles when traded to the Leafs.


Its always fun to hear about over valuations from the johnsson, Bracco and a 2nd for :: insert very good defensemen here :: crowd
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Quoting: littlejerryseinfeld
Its always fun to hear about over valuations from the johnsson, Bracco and a 2nd for :: insert very good defensemen here :: crowd


Even if the cap stays flat, there are so many teams need to get rid of their "Johnssons" to be cap compliant. So right now, Johnsson trade value with no cap returned is about 7th rounder...if that
Me, I've never been on the Bracco bandwagon. IMO he is never an NHLer.
As a Leaf I would certainly want to keep the needed Kerfoot and young Dermot for the same combined cap as Montour.

But you know this may all be meaningless. Who knows what the cap will be whenever they play again. I'm even doubting the 2020/21 season starts on time, if at all.
2 avr. 2020 à 12 h 40
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Don't see why Ottawa would trade a cheaper and by your standards a 3C for Johnsson...plus Ottawa gives up the picks. That' a lot to give up for Montour, but he is an right handled so his trade value doubles when traded to the Leafs.


if they plan to draft byfield they dont need him. Montours value is low but knowing buffalo fans if I said johnsson for him which if u go on any trade site johnsson despite being injured is worth way more rn would say its not enough. This just makes it where toronto gets a RD while at the same time moves some pieces.
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Even if the cap stays flat, there are so many teams need to get rid of their "Johnssons" to be cap compliant. So right now, Johnsson trade value with no cap returned is about 7th rounder...if that
Me, I've never been on the Bracco bandwagon. IMO he is never an NHLer.
As a Leaf I would certainly want to keep the needed Kerfoot and young Dermot for the same combined cap as Montour.

But you know this may all be meaningless. Who knows what the cap will be whenever they play again. I'm even doubting the 2020/21 season starts on time, if at all.


Johnsson rn is worth a good amount despite being injured a 7th is a straight up joke. He has just seen an injury prone season this year. Many teams would love to have him as he can play on any pp unit, he can pk, can, play on any line given, and is a 20 goal scorer and if he wasnt injured he would have probs done it again. This kid has won SHL Rookie of the Year, was a Calder MVP in the AHL. Only reason Toronto moves him as they need to think about their defense and moving him can help with that
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Quoting: littlejerryseinfeld
I think buffalo would rather have a draft pick attached to kerfoot than dermott. we have too many defensemen on nhl contracts as it is.


I think Buffalo would prefer Dermott, could bring something new to the table and help improve their defense. Can also sign for cheaper than Montour (2-2.5mill). Another option Buffalo takes dermott then flips him to another team for either picks, depth winger, or some okay prospects.
2 avr. 2020 à 13 h 11
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I think Buffalo would prefer Dermott, could bring something new to the table and help improve their defense. Can also sign for cheaper than Montour (2-2.5mill). Another option Buffalo takes dermott then flips him to another team for either picks, depth winger, or some okay prospects.


No thanks
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No thanks


This is already an overpayment for montour so they would probs take it. Montour is alright but overrated if buffalo overvalues him the leafs will look elsewhere as there are cheaper/better options out there. this was just a suggestion but from what i can see he aint worth it.
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Johnsson rn is worth a good amount despite being injured a 7th is a straight up joke. He has just seen an injury prone season this year. Many teams would love to have him as he can play on any pp unit, he can pk, can, play on any line given, and is a 20 goal scorer and if he wasnt injured he would have probs done it again. This kid has won SHL Rookie of the Year, was a Calder MVP in the AHL. Only reason Toronto moves him as they need to think about their defense and moving him can help with that


No, I wasn't joking about Johnsson's TRADE value. Let' say the Leafs have their 23 set with a 2m in cap space. But they really want sign Gudas for 4.5m X 3. There only option might be trade Johnsson for nothing...and the fill forward position with 1m player like Korshov. So the it's Gudas and Korshow in the lineup instead of Johnsson and Marincin.
Even if the league starts next season on time with cap in the 80s (I'm doubtful of both), there are so many team in the same position as the Leafs. They just have to shed players without taking cap back in a trade. The Leafs are one of so many sellers and there are very few buyers, meaning teams with cap space.
Just look what the Leafs did last summer to get long term cap space. They traded 4.5m long term contract Zaitsev and 2.1 Connor Brown for one year of 4.5m Ceci. That wasn't a fair one ice value but it was a necessary trade for cap position.
Heck the Leafs had to trade 6.5m Marleau and first just offload his one year cap hit.
So let's not confuse on ice playing value and trade value.
2 avr. 2020 à 22 h 45
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No, I wasn't joking about Johnsson's TRADE value. Let' say the Leafs have their 23 set with a 2m in cap space. But they really want sign Gudas for 4.5m X 3. There only option might be trade Johnsson for nothing...and the fill forward position with 1m player like Korshov. So the it's Gudas and Korshow in the lineup instead of Johnsson and Marincin.
Even if the league starts next season on time with cap in the 80s (I'm doubtful of both), there are so many team in the same position as the Leafs. They just have to shed players without taking cap back in a trade. The Leafs are one of so many sellers and there are very few buyers, meaning teams with cap space.
Just look what the Leafs did last summer to get long term cap space. They traded 4.5m long term contract Zaitsev and 2.1 Connor Brown for one year of 4.5m Ceci. That wasn't a fair one ice value but it was a necessary trade for cap position.
Heck the Leafs had to trade 6.5m Marleau and first just offload his one year cap hit.
So let's not confuse on ice playing value and trade value.


marleau had to go with a first as it was a cap dump. Brown was not playing well and zaitsevs value was horrible and he demanded a trade. Trading for Ceci was one of the conditions ottawa made for taking zaitsevs entire contract and taking on a potential disaster in brown. Now signing ceci for 4.5m was dumb 1 year at 2 mill would have been fine he rejects he could go play in europe we would not have cared. Johnsson would have been traded at the deadline but mikeyv got the wrist injury. Johnsson can easily get u a 2nd np as that contract especially now is reasonable especially to teams looking at rebuilding. Ottawa, NJ, San Jose could all have interest in him and the return offers would be good. Ottawa and the leafs have good relations when it comes to trades so probs gonna here johnsson going to ottawa. If the cap falls below 80million the league will be screwed and the NHLPA wont let that happen. they will keep it at 81.5 or drop it to 80.5. As for Gudas no thank u leafs can do better.
3 avr. 2020 à 0 h 9
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marleau had to go with a first as it was a cap dump. Brown was not playing well and zaitsevs value was horrible and he demanded a trade. Trading for Ceci was one of the conditions ottawa made for taking zaitsevs entire contract and taking on a potential disaster in brown. Now signing ceci for 4.5m was dumb 1 year at 2 mill would have been fine he rejects he could go play in europe we would not have cared. Johnsson would have been traded at the deadline but mikeyv got the wrist injury. Johnsson can easily get u a 2nd np as that contract especially now is reasonable especially to teams looking at rebuilding. Ottawa, NJ, San Jose could all have interest in him and the return offers would be good. Ottawa and the leafs have good relations when it comes to trades so probs gonna here johnsson going to ottawa. If the cap falls below 80million the league will be screwed and the NHLPA wont let that happen. they will keep it at 81.5 or drop it to 80.5. As for Gudas no thank u leafs can do better.


I gave Gudas as an example. But that's for agreeing with me. Marleau was a one year cap dump that costs the Leaf a first rounder as you suggest. I'm suggesting Johnsson may have to be dumped for cap seasons at no cost or return. There just aren't many buyers for the all the "Johnssons' that are going to be on the market.
Seems you're stretching the truth when you say Brown was a potential disaster. Gee you had 43 points this season. Ceci had been agreed to contract with Ottawa, and the Leafs just took over that verbal contract, though the contract was signed later. Leafs had no choice with the 4.5m X1 deal.
The cap is based on revenues not on the NHLPA wants. Don't know why folks think the league will be screwed. No reason that owners and NHLPA won't agree for ALL player taking a reduction if the cap goes lower. Doesn't matter to the owners, they are going to spend to the cap anyway (mostly). But most of the NHLPA are mid to lower price players. Those players be taking the brunt of the salary haircut and let the big ticket players maintain their current contract.
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Quoting: palhal
I gave Gudas as an example. But that's for agreeing with me. Marleau was a one year cap dump that costs the Leaf a first rounder as you suggest. I'm suggesting Johnsson may have to be dumped for cap seasons at no cost or return. There just aren't many buyers for the all the "Johnssons' that are going to be on the market.
Seems you're stretching the truth when you say Brown was a potential disaster. Gee you had 43 points this season. Ceci had been agreed to contract with Ottawa, and the Leafs just took over that verbal contract, though the contract was signed later. Leafs had no choice with the 4.5m X1 deal.
The cap is based on revenues not on the NHLPA wants. Don't know why folks think the league will be screwed. No reason that owners and NHLPA won't agree for ALL player taking a reduction if the cap goes lower. Doesn't matter to the owners, they are going to spend to the cap anyway (mostly). But most of the NHLPA are mid to lower price players. Those players be taking the brunt of the salary haircut and let the big ticket players maintain their current contract.


think what u want but even non leaf fans value johnsson more so u do you man but if u value him that low that's just sad
3 avr. 2020 à 8 h 52
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think what u want but even non leaf fans value johnsson more so u do you man but if u value him that low that's just sad


Sorry you don't follow the cap of other teams and the needs of other teams in these unusual times. So sad.
3 avr. 2020 à 9 h 36
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Johnsson in no way is worth a 2nd round pick. I do think he is worth a little more than a 7th, even in today's NHL situation. I think a 4th-5th round pick for a team looking to strengthen their bottom 6 for a play off run make sense (obviously won't be this year now with the NHL situation and Johnsson being on IR). A team looking to rebuild and out of the play offs would value their picks more highly than a 3rd line winger who is undersized, coming off serious injury, and cannot drive the offense (his 20 goal season was when he played on a top line with elite talent, playing a 3rd line role indicates he is a 3d line player). There is a reason almost every trade proposed by a maple leaf fan includes Johnsson, and there is a reason why almost every non maple leaf fan says that proposed trade will likely be rejected. Toronto is also sitting from a position of weakness, as any trade partner knows that Toronto has to shed cap to be compliant next year, very similar to last year with Marleau. So that further devalues Johnsson's worth. As Palhal says, most teams that could use Johnsson to strengthen their bottom of the roster are too close to the cap, and those teams with cap space are in a rebuild phase and are not interested in giving up draft picks for a 3rd line winger.
 
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