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Blues Trade

Créé par: Db_2984
Équipe: 2020-21 Oilers d'Edmonton
Date de création initiale: 29 mars 2020
Publié: 29 mars 2020
Mode - plafond salarial: Basique
Description
(assumes Milan Lucic bought out also)
Signatures de joueurs autonomes
RFAANSCAP HIT
13 500 000 $
23 500 000 $
21 900 000 $
1800 000 $
UFAANSCAP HIT
21 000 000 $
14 000 000 $
Transactions
1.
2.
EDM
VGK
  1. Neal, James
Détails additionnels:
Compliance Buyout
Rachats de contrats
Transactions impliquant une retenue de salaire
Repêchage1e ronde2e ronde3e ronde4e ronde5e ronde6e ronde7e ronde
2020
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Logo de EDM
2021
Logo de EDM
Logo de EDM
Logo de EDM
Logo de EDM
Logo de PIT
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2022
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Logo de EDM
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Logo de EDM
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TAILLE DE LA FORMATIONPLAFOND SALARIALCAP HITEXCÉDENTS Info-bulleBONISESPACE SOUS LE PLAFOND SALARIAL
2381 500 000 $82 399 365 $341 534 $730 000 $-899 365 $
Ailier gaucheCentreAilier droit
Logo de Oilers d'Edmonton
3 500 000 $3 500 000 $
AG, AD
UFA - 1
Logo de Oilers d'Edmonton
12 500 000 $12 500 000 $
C
UFA - 6
Logo de Oilers d'Edmonton
3 200 000 $3 200 000 $
AD
UFA - 4
Logo de Oilers d'Edmonton
6 000 000 $6 000 000 $
AG, C
UFA - 1
Logo de Oilers d'Edmonton
8 500 000 $8 500 000 $
C, AG
UFA - 5
Logo de Oilers d'Edmonton
894 166 $894 166 $ (Bonis de performance230 000 $$230K)
AD
RFA - 1
Logo de Oilers d'Edmonton
2 150 000 $2 150 000 $
AD
UFA - 1
Logo de Oilers d'Edmonton
808 333 $808 333 $
AG, AD
UFA - 1
Logo de Blues de St-Louis
5 000 000 $5 000 000 $
C, AD
M-NTC
UFA - 1
Logo de Oilers d'Edmonton
1 500 000 $1 500 000 $
AD, AG
UFA - 2
Logo de Oilers d'Edmonton
1 000 000 $1 000 000 $
AG, C
UFA - 1
Logo de Oilers d'Edmonton
1 200 000 $1 200 000 $
AG, C
UFA - 1
Défenseur gaucherDéfenseur droitierGardien de but
Logo de Oilers d'Edmonton
4 167 000 $4 167 000 $
DG
UFA - 3
Logo de Oilers d'Edmonton
4 166 666 $4 166 666 $
DD
UFA - 1
Logo de Oilers d'Edmonton
4 500 000 $4 500 000 $
G
M-NTC
UFA - 2
Logo de Oilers d'Edmonton
5 600 000 $5 600 000 $
DG
UFA - 2
Logo de Oilers d'Edmonton
3 500 000 $3 500 000 $
DD
UFA - 2
Logo de Oilers d'Edmonton
850 000 $850 000 $
DG/DD
UFA - 2
Logo de Oilers d'Edmonton
1 900 000 $1 900 000 $
DD
UFA - 2
4 000 000 $4 000 000 $
G
UFA - 1
Laissés de côtéListe des blessés (IR)Liste des blessés à long terme (LTIR)
Logo de Oilers d'Edmonton
875 000 $875 000 $
AG
UFA - 1
Logo de Oilers d'Edmonton
863 333 $863 333 $ (Bonis de performance500 000 $$500K)
DD
RFA - 3
Logo de Oilers d'Edmonton
800 000 $800 000 $
DG/DD
UFA - 2

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29 mars 2020 à 20 h 48
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I like this idea in it's basis, but I don't think it relieves enough cap for STL to budge.
29 mars 2020 à 20 h 52
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This is actually really well thought out. Good job.
29 mars 2020 à 21 h 6
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Looks like STL bailing yall out to me. No thanks, I'd rather we either open up cap or keep Bozak if that's the offer.
29 mars 2020 à 21 h 13
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Thanks for your commentary everyone.
29 mars 2020 à 21 h 24
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Looks like STL bailing yall out to me. No thanks, I'd rather we either open up cap or keep Bozak if that's the offer.


Bailing Oilers out, they both have 1 year left and Oilers could just buy out Russell and than contract is gone. The trade is actually pretty even. But so be it
29 mars 2020 à 21 h 31
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Bailing Oilers out, they both have 1 year left and Oilers could just buy out Russell and than contract is gone. The trade is actually pretty even. But so be it


I just dont think Russell is better than bozak so I wouldnt do it.
29 mars 2020 à 21 h 39
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I just dont think Russell is better than bozak so I wouldnt do it.


Russell is a defense man, so totally different player and they both really have terrible contracts. Russell is 2 million to high and Bozak is 3 million to high
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29 mars 2020 à 21 h 51
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That's not gonna work for the Blues.
30 mars 2020 à 9 h 43
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Quoting: A_K
I just dont think Russell is better than bozak so I wouldnt do it.


I am not sure that this is the right way to look at it. They play different positions and fulfill different roles.
30 mars 2020 à 10 h 19
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I am not sure that this is the right way to look at it. They play different positions and fulfill different roles.


They play different positions but you can still compare their impacts. I don't think Russell is above replacement level so I wouldn't trade for him - we'd be better off moving Bozak for nothing and using the cap space on a good player.
30 mars 2020 à 10 h 22
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They play different positions but you can still compare their impacts. I don't think Russell is above replacement level so I wouldn't trade for him - we'd be better off moving Bozak for nothing and using the cap space on a good player.


Is this even possible? Not very many GM's are willing to take a mediocre player who is making $5M without sending some cap back in return. I mean, why wouldn't the GM with $5M burning a hole in his pocket just go out and sign that "good player" you speak of?
30 mars 2020 à 10 h 33
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Is this even possible? Not very many GM's are willing to take a mediocre player who is making $5M without sending some cap back in return. I mean, why wouldn't the GM with $5M burning a hole in his pocket just go out and sign that "good player" you speak of?


Fine, give cap back but ffs not Kris Russell lol that's all I'm trying to say. It's a swap of 1 yr of overpaid players, but I don't want the worse one for slightly less money. I'd look at the Soderberg trade between COL and ARI as the comp. The Avs opened up like 3m.
30 mars 2020 à 12 h 17
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Fine, give cap back but ffs not Kris Russell lol that's all I'm trying to say. It's a swap of 1 yr of overpaid players, but I don't want the worse one for slightly less money. I'd look at the Soderberg trade between COL and ARI as the comp. The Avs opened up like 3m.


It's ideal, its just not that easy to work out. If you look at all the AGMs on this site, virtually all of them are trading unwanted players with cap for picks. In a flat (or declining) cap situation, that's just not going to happen very often. You have to look at trades that make your situation better, since trades that make your situation perfect just aren't out there.
30 mars 2020 à 13 h 31
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Not arguing with anyone, but why are we saying that Tyler Bozak is "better" than Kris Russell in the first place??? Based on what? The fact that Tyler Bozak scores more goals and wins more faceoffs? Is that surprising?

Look at Edmonton's PK %. Now look at St. Louis's PK%. Kris Russell is a big part of that. His career plus/minus is great, especially considering what a bad defensive team Edmonton has been the past few years. Edmonton have great LHD in Klefbom and Nurse, so $4m is a little much to pay for Russell is the only reason Oilers should trade him.

Same with Bozak. He is a fantastic player, but he is probably the highest paid 3C in the league.

The question is whether each team's money would be better spent.
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