Pietrangelo and Jones

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Créé par: Leafs_and_Sens_Fan

Équipe: 2020-21 Maple Leafs de Toronto

Date de création initiale: 28 mars 2020

Publié: 28 mars 2020

Mode - plafond salarial: Basique

Signatures de joueurs autonomes

RFA		ANS	CAP HIT
Gauthier, Frédérik		1	700 000 $
Mikheyev, Ilya		4	3 000 000 $

UFA		ANS	CAP HIT
Pietrangelo, Alex		7	9 000 000 $
Spezza, Jason		1	700 000 $

Transactions

TOR

Carlsson, Gabriel [Droits de RFA]
Jones, Seth

CBJ

TOR

Choix de 3e ronde en 2020 (ANA)
Choix de 3e ronde en 2021 (ANA)

ANA

Johnsson, Andreas

Rachats de contrats

Mikhail Grabovski: 0 $

Transactions impliquant une retenue de salaire

Phil Kessel: 1 200 000 $ (15%)

Repêchage	1e ronde	2e ronde	3e ronde	4e ronde	5e ronde	6e ronde	7e ronde
2020
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INTÉGRÉ

TEXTE INTÉGRÉ

TAILLE DE LA FORMATION	PLAFOND SALARIAL	CAP HIT	EXCÉDENTS	BONIS	ESPACE SOUS LE PLAFOND SALARIAL
21	81 500 000 $	81 281 783 $	0 $	400 000 $	218 217 $

Ailier gauche	Centre	Ailier droit
Mikheyev, Ilya 3 000 000 $3 000 000 $ AG, AD UFA - 2	Matthews, Auston 11 640 250 $11 640 250 $ C UFA - 4	Nylander, William 6 962 366 $6 962 366 $ AD UFA - 4
Kerfoot, Alexander 3 500 000 $3 500 000 $ AG, C, AD UFA - 3	Tavares, John 11 000 000 $11 000 000 $ C, AG NMC UFA - 5	Hyman, Zach 2 250 000 $2 250 000 $ AD, AG M-NTC UFA - 1
Robertson, Nicholas 821 667 $821 667 $ AG, AD RFA - 4	Spezza, Jason 700 000 $700 000 $ C, AD UFA - 1	Kapanen, Kasperi 3 200 000 $3 200 000 $ AD UFA - 2
Engvall, Pierre 1 250 000 $1 250 000 $ AD, AG UFA - 2	Gauthier, Frédérik 700 000 $700 000 $ C UFA - 1	Korshkov, Yegor 925 000 $925 000 $ AD RFA - 1

Défenseur gaucher	Défenseur droitier	Gardien de but
Rielly, Morgan 5 000 000 $5 000 000 $ DG M-NTC UFA - 2		Andersen, Frederik 5 000 000 $5 000 000 $ G M-NTC UFA - 1
Muzzin, Jake 5 625 000 $5 625 000 $ DG NMC UFA - 4	Pietrangelo, Alex 9 000 000 $9 000 000 $ DD UFA - 7	Campbell, Jack 1 650 000 $1 650 000 $ G UFA - 2
Sandin, Rasmus 894 167 $894 167 $ DG UFA - 2	Jones, Seth 5 400 000 $5 400 000 $ DD M-NTC UFA - 2
Marincin, Martin 700 000 $700 000 $ DG UFA - 1	Liljegren, Timothy 863 333 $863 333 $ (400 000 $$400K) DD RFA - 2

28 mars 2020 à 22 h 19

csick

KFTW

Rejoint: juill. 2018

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Why isn’t Max Jones in the lineup

28 mars 2020 à 22 h 19

papishark

Rejoint: août 2019

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Why does Anaheim do that?

28 mars 2020 à 22 h 24

AnalyticsGeek

Banni

Rejoint: sept. 2019

Messages: 5,011

Mentions "j'aime": 1,636

Try Marner + Liljegren for Jones. Retain 1634000 of Mitch’s salary too.

28 mars 2020 à 22 h 32

CMac66

Jimmy Stu

Rejoint: juill. 2016

Messages: 1,475

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How about a
Marner, Lijlegren
For
Jones, Anderson

28 mars 2020 à 22 h 42

Leafs_and_Sens_Fan

Démarrer sujet

Rejoint: janv. 2020

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Quoting: csick

Why isn’t Max Jones in the lineup

Quoting: papishark

Why does Anaheim do that?

Didn't know he was viewed so highly. He hasn't had good stats. Changed it.

28 mars 2020 à 22 h 44

Ajp_18

Rejoint: mars 2018

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Doesn’t matter the trade for Jones... Columbus declines. They can’t afford to trade him, they won 2 games this season without him in the line up.... vs Ottawa and Minnesota... 2 of the worst teams in the league.

The only way, and I mean only way Columbus can even consider moving Jones is if they are getting a true number 1 center... Marner isn’t that.

28 mars 2020 à 22 h 44

Leafs_and_Sens_Fan

Démarrer sujet

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Quoting: MitchMarnerElite

Try Marner + Liljegren for Jones. Retain 1634000 of Mitch’s salary too.

Columbus loses for the first 2 years but after that they get Marner for nothing. Marner's contract is bad now but will be okay in 2-3 years.

Columbus needs to push hard for a cup now or trade Jones. Next year when he only has 1 year on his contract his value will go down drastically.

28 mars 2020 à 22 h 48

Leafs_and_Sens_Fan

Démarrer sujet

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Quoting: Ajp_18

Don't you guys have Dubois already?

28 mars 2020 à 22 h 50

Ajp_18

Rejoint: mars 2018

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Quoting: Leafs_and_Sens_Fan

Don't you guys have Dubois already?

Yes, but he isn’t even close to being the same as Matthews and players of that level.... that’s the type of player Columbus would need to get back if Jones is moved. A face of the franchise type player. PLD isn’t that.... Werenski isn’t that....

28 mars 2020 à 22 h 54

#10

Ajp_18

Rejoint: mars 2018

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Quoting: Leafs_and_Sens_Fan

They have no reason to trade him unless he says he 100% isn’t resigning and unless you know something no one else does, then you ride it out and see what happens. He’s the type of player you keep and it sucks to lose him, but you keep him unless he wants out. Ie stamkos, Tavares, Panarin, Pietranglo, and players along those lines... don’t freak out and trade your best player because he might not resign with you.... then you just give up on your team and your season....

29 mars 2020 à 4 h 28

#11

Dommait

Rejoint: avr. 2019

Messages: 251

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Quoting: CMac66

How about a
Marner, Lijlegren
For
Jones, Anderson

Jackets easy dislike.Jones has more value than marner as a player.With the contract situation it much more.

29 mars 2020 à 11 h 48

#12

NickC1988

Chicago

Rejoint: juin 2015

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What happens in two seasons when Jones, Rielly, and Sandin need new contracts?

29 mars 2020 à 15 h 0

#13

Leafs_and_Sens_Fan

Démarrer sujet

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Quoting: NickC1988

What happens in two seasons when Jones, Rielly, and Sandin need new contracts?

That's the cost of these trades. They can likely only keep 2 of those guys. But you gotta give up something to get something.

Quoting: Dommait

Jackets easy dislike.Jones has more value than marner as a player.With the contract situation it much more.

Jones doesn't have more value than Marner as a player. Marner is younger and has more room to grow and is already just as good as Jones. However, what makes Jones attractive is his very team friendly contract for the next 2 years. Jones has a lot of value for teams that want to compete right now and are close to the salary cap.

The downside to Jones is that he is only under contract for 2 more years and then he can walk for nothing whereas Marner is under contract for 5 more years. Marner's contract isn't very attractive right now but in 2 years I think it will be a fair contract.

29 mars 2020 à 23 h 56

#14

CMac66

Jimmy Stu

Rejoint: juill. 2016

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Quoting: NickC1988

What happens in two seasons when Jones, Rielly, and Sandin need new contracts?

The GM tries to get them to sign new contracts

30 mars 2020 à 3 h 21

#15

Dommait

Rejoint: avr. 2019

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Quoting: Leafs_and_Sens_Fan

That's the cost of these trades. They can likely only keep 2 of those guys. But you gotta give up something to get something.

Everbody says the cap rises a lot,but that will not happen.The situation in the world at the moment will **** the money system for years .This year you can be happy if the cap not goes down.

Jones doesn't have more value than Marner as a player. Marner is younger and has more room to grow and is already just as good as Jones. However, what makes Jones attractive is his very team friendly contract for the next 2 years. Jones has a lot of value for teams that want to compete right now and are close to the salary cap.

The downside to Jones is that he is only under contract for 2 more years and then he can walk for nothing whereas Marner is under contract for 5 more years. Marner's contract isn't very attractive right now but in 2 years I think it will be a fair contract.

The situation at the moment will **** the money system for years .Be happy if the cap stays the same the next two years.

30 mars 2020 à 20 h 33

#16

NickC1988

Chicago

Rejoint: juin 2015

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Quoting: CMac66

The GM tries to get them to sign new contracts

I was referring to the part where there's no money to do that...

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