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Créé par: Dan10900
Équipe: 2020-21 Lightning de Tampa Bay
Date de création initiale: 25 mars 2020
Publié: 26 mars 2020
Mode - plafond salarial: Basique
Description
Don't put too much weight into this, just seeing how some trades work out for other teams perspective
Signatures de joueurs autonomes
RFAANSCAP HIT
25 000 000 $
1700 000 $
1700 000 $
1700 000 $
24 000 000 $
UFAANSCAP HIT
22 000 000 $
Transactions
1.
TBL
  1. Manson, Josh (2 050 000 $ retained)
  2. Rowney, Carter (566 667 $ retained)
ANA
  1. Cernak, Erik [Droits de RFA]
  2. Choix de 2e ronde en 2020 (TBL)
2.
TBL
  1. McKeown, Roland [Droits de RFA]
  2. Suzuki, Ryan
  3. Choix de 1e ronde en 2021 (CAR)
Détails additionnels:
Yeah yeah yeah, massive overpay from CAR... cry more

I'm not impressed by Suzuki much at all, and Killorn is really really good especially analytically, which ik Tulsky will love
3.
TBL
  1. Choix de 7e ronde en 2021 (OTT)
OTT
  1. Coburn, Braydon
Détails additionnels:
Anywhere
4.
TBL
    Picks and such, no cap
    OTT
    1. Johnson, Tyler
    Détails additionnels:
    Someone's gonna have to waive their NTC... I just don't see another way lol (well Vasy... But that's not for tonight...)
    Rachats de contrats
    Repêchage1e ronde2e ronde3e ronde4e ronde5e ronde6e ronde7e ronde
    2020
    Logo de TBL
    Logo de PHI
    Logo de TBL
    Logo de DET
    Logo de TBL
    Logo de OTT
    Logo de TBL
    2021
    Logo de TBL
    Logo de CAR
    Logo de TBL
    Logo de TBL
    Logo de TBL
    Logo de TBL
    Logo de TBL
    Logo de TBL
    Logo de NSH
    Logo de NJD
    Logo de OTT
    2022
    Logo de TBL
    Logo de TBL
    Logo de TBL
    Logo de TBL
    Logo de TBL
    Logo de TBL
    Logo de TBL
    TAILLE DE LA FORMATIONPLAFOND SALARIALCAP HITEXCÉDENTS Info-bulleBONISESPACE SOUS LE PLAFOND SALARIAL
    2282 500 000 $80 367 590 $0 $500 000 $2 132 410 $
    Ailier gaucheCentreAilier droit
    Logo de Lightning de Tampa Bay
    1 800 000 $1 800 000 $
    AD, AG
    UFA - 1
    Logo de Lightning de Tampa Bay
    6 750 000 $6 750 000 $
    C, AD
    UFA - 2
    Logo de Lightning de Tampa Bay
    9 500 000 $9 500 000 $
    AD
    NMC
    UFA - 7
    Logo de Lightning de Tampa Bay
    8 500 000 $8 500 000 $
    AG, C
    NMC
    UFA - 4
    Logo de Lightning de Tampa Bay
    5 000 000 $5 000 000 $
    C, AG
    UFA - 3
    Logo de Lightning de Tampa Bay
    5 300 000 $5 300 000 $
    AG, AD
    NTC
    UFA - 2
    Logo de Lightning de Tampa Bay
    700 000 $700 000 $
    AG
    UFA - 2
    Logo de Lightning de Tampa Bay
    759 258 $759 258 $
    AD, AG
    UFA - 1
    Logo de Lightning de Tampa Bay
    5 166 666 $5 166 666 $
    C, AG, AD
    NTC
    UFA - 5
    Logo de Lightning de Tampa Bay
    925 000 $925 000 $
    C, AG
    UFA - 1
    Logo de Ducks d'Anaheim
    566 666 $566 666 $
    C, AD
    UFA - 1
    Logo de Lightning de Tampa Bay
    1 650 000 $1 650 000 $
    C, AG, AD
    UFA - 1
    Défenseur gaucherDéfenseur droitierGardien de but
    Logo de Lightning de Tampa Bay
    7 875 000 $7 875 000 $
    DG
    NMC
    UFA - 5
    Logo de Ducks d'Anaheim
    0 $0 $
    DD
    M-NTC
    UFA - 2
    Logo de Lightning de Tampa Bay
    9 500 000 $9 500 000 $
    G
    UFA - 8
    Logo de Lightning de Tampa Bay
    6 750 000 $6 750 000 $
    DG
    NTC
    UFA - 6
    Logo de Lightning de Tampa Bay
    4 000 000 $4 000 000 $
    DG/DD
    UFA - 3
    Logo de Lightning de Tampa Bay
    1 300 000 $1 300 000 $
    G
    UFA - 1
    Logo de Lightning de Tampa Bay
    2 000 000 $2 000 000 $
    DD
    UFA - 3
    Logo de Lightning de Tampa Bay
    925 000 $925 000 $ (Bonis de performance500 000 $$500K)
    DD
    RFA - 1
    Laissés de côtéListe des blessés (IR)Liste des blessés à long terme (LTIR)
    Logo de Lightning de Tampa Bay
    700 000 $700 000 $
    AG, AD
    UFA - 1
    Logo de Lightning de Tampa Bay
    700 000 $700 000 $
    C
    UFA - 2

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    26 mars 2020 à 21 h 18
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    Gun to your ribs, the habs will either offer a trade for one of your RFA, or offersheet them.

    Here is Domi, Mete, and 2022 fist round pick

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    Cernak and Sergachev and sure... throw in Gourde.
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    26 mars 2020 à 21 h 21
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    Quoting: MTLaveragefan
    Gun to your ribs, the habs will either offer a trade for one of your UFA, or offersheet them.

    Here is Domi, Mete, and 2022 fist round pick

    for


    Cernak and Sergachev and sure... throw in Gourde.


    As Tampa, I'd strongly consider that if Gourde waives, I was posting this as an ANA fan showing how the TBL/ANA trade can work from their perspective
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    27 mars 2020 à 12 h 32
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    No way are Cirelli and Sergachevi signing for 2 x 5 and 2 x 4 respectively, Both will get more then that on offer sheets more then likely. Don't see Coburn waiving and Tyler Johnson sure as hell isn't waiving for Ottawa.
    27 mars 2020 à 13 h 24
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    Cirelli and Serg will each fall in that 4.5 range on a 3 year bridge, and then get paid big like the rest of Tampa stars. They will say no thanks to these supposed offee sheets which almost never happen anyway. It is funny I guess seeing all these ppl think Tampa's rfa's are both getting one and taking it as well. I could see Cernak getting moved if it comes to it, him and a 2nd for Manson retained would be interesting. I think Killorn could def return a late 1st, but not likely a 1st++. 2nd+ for sure though. Coburn will be moved, just have to figure out where he'd waive for and sweeten the deal, but that's far from difficult. Getting Gourde or TJ to waive though seems far more problematic, but I hope one does so maybe they could keep Killorn. Question becomes if one of them waives does JBB take a likely smaller return and save an extra 550-800k in cap space, or does he take the better return and less cap with Killorn(maybe even both?).
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    27 mars 2020 à 13 h 44
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    Quoting: JTBF81
    Cirelli and Serg will each fall in that 4.5 range on a 3 year bridge, and then get paid big like the rest of Tampa stars. They will say no thanks to these supposed offee sheets which almost never happen anyway. It is funny I guess seeing all these ppl think Tampa's rfa's are both getting one and taking it as well. I could see Cernak getting moved if it comes to it, him and a 2nd for Manson retained would be interesting. I think Killorn could def return a late 1st, but not likely a 1st++. 2nd+ for sure though. Coburn will be moved, just have to figure out where he'd waive for and sweeten the deal, but that's far from difficult. Getting Gourde or TJ to waive though seems far more problematic, but I hope one does so maybe they could keep Killorn. Question becomes if one of them waives does JBB take a likely smaller return and save an extra 550-800k in cap space, or does he take the better return and less cap with Killorn(maybe even both?).


    You don't think Bergevin would offer sheet Sergachev 2 years × $6.341M (compensation of a 1st and a 3rd round pick). What does he have to lose. Tampa would certainly need to make some moves if they want to match that offer.

    He already showed his willingness to do so with the Aho offersheet.

    This would work out extremely well for Sergachev if TB matches, and even if they don't he would still get paid more and get out of herman's shadow and play a bigger role.
    28 mars 2020 à 22 h 29
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    Quoting: CaptainFlynnt
    You don't think Bergevin would offer sheet Sergachev 2 years × $6.341M (compensation of a 1st and a 3rd round pick). What does he have to lose. Tampa would certainly need to make some moves if they want to match that offer.

    He already showed his willingness to do so with the Aho offersheet.

    This would work out extremely well for Sergachev if TB matches, and even if they don't he would still get paid more and get out of herman's shadow and play a bigger role.


    Except for 1.5 less he could stay on a team that actually has a chance to win a cup in the next 2 years, have far better weather, far far better taxes(which makes the difference between 6.35 and between 4.5 to 5 even less), and still have a top 4 role potentially in that time depending on how they deploy him. I don't even see him entertaining an offer sheet unless a team comes in and offers something very unrealistic. If someone wants to offer sheet him at like 7 or 8 aav, and he decided to accept, then maybe Tampa takes the 1st, 2nd and 3rd rounder, but no team that he'd likely want to leave Tampa for is going to go that high. If OS were happening every year then maybe I'd be realistically concerned about losing either Cirelli or Serg to one, but they aren't and myself and most Tsmpa fans I know/speak with aren't either.
    28 mars 2020 à 23 h 46
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    Quoting: JTBF81
    Except for 1.5 less he could stay on a team that actually has a chance to win a cup in the next 2 years, have far better weather, far far better taxes(which makes the difference between 6.35 and between 4.5 to 5 even less), and still have a top 4 role potentially in that time depending on how they deploy him. I don't even see him entertaining an offer sheet unless a team comes in and offers something very unrealistic. If someone wants to offer sheet him at like 7 or 8 aav, and he decided to accept, then maybe Tampa takes the 1st, 2nd and 3rd rounder, but no team that he'd likely want to leave Tampa for is going to go that high. If OS were happening every year then maybe I'd be realistically concerned about losing either Cirelli or Serg to one, but they aren't and myself and most Tsmpa fans I know/speak with aren't either.


    As a habs fan, I would offer sheet $6.35M for two reasons. One, they need a LD like Sergachev badly. Two, it screws over a division rival.

    If Sergachev accepts it, Tampa likely finds a way to match, so it's a win for him as well. Even if they don't match he would still be in a good spot, I have a feeling Sergachev wants the chance to be the "Number 1 D".
     
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