Quoting: Jack_
The guy cant skate or move the puck, hes also a terrible defender. Just because he plays those minutes doesn't mean he is a top 4 defenseman. He gets curb stomped whenever he steps on the ice. By that logic you or I could be top 4 defensemen.
Quoting: Jack_
Lmao I dont think ceci is better. I know it. He isnt a shut down defenseman because he doesn't shut anything down. He doenst have nhl caliber stats. Just because he plays in the top 4 doesn't mean hes a top 4 defenseman lol. If a guy gets caved in by everyone he plays against then he shouldn't be so high up in the lineup, if hes not capable of playing on the 3rd pair then he shouldn't be in the nhl. Nikita Zaitsev is playing on the 1st pair so that means hes a 1st pair defenseman right? Lol think about things before you type them out. I never said barrie was a good defenseman or rielly is a norris contender. Why so defensive?
Vlassic can easily be compare to Ryan McDonagh. Stats wise they have very similar number. They got use in a very similar ways, mostly in shutdown role. So McDonagh is a ahl players to?
You think that because they don’t have a lot of point they can’t play with the puck but the thing you niss here is there are fine with the puck they are just more careful with it. They don’t commit stupid turnovers or giveaways. Zdeno Chara is another example. Slow, old, doesnt olay well with the puck. Ahl caliber player who managed to play 1500 game in nhl. Maybe they have a certain utility finally