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2 Trades COL NSH MTL and a Compliance Buyout Good for up to 78 mil cap

Créé par: Sagecoll
Équipe: 2020-21 Rangers de New York
Date de création initiale: 23 mars 2020
Publié: 25 mars 2020
Mode - plafond salarial: Basique
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LISTE DE RÉSERVEANSCAP HIT
3925 000 $
RFAANSCAP HIT
65 850 000 $
21 450 000 $
21 850 000 $
32 150 000 $
33 850 000 $
UFAANSCAP HIT
1900 000 $
1700 000 $
Transactions
1.
NYR
  1. Jost, Tyson [Droits de RFA]
  2. Zadorov, Nikita [Droits de RFA]
2.
NYR
    Compliance Buyout
    3.
    NYR
    1. Johansen, Ryan
    Détails additionnels:
    3 team trade.
    Trouba to Montreal
    Johansen to NYR
    Domi to Nashville.
    Rachats de contrats
    Enfoui
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    2020
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    2021
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    2022
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    TAILLE DE LA FORMATIONPLAFOND SALARIALCAP HITEXCÉDENTS Info-bulleBONISESPACE SOUS LE PLAFOND SALARIAL
    2378 000 000 $73 088 966 $0 $9 212 500 $4 911 034 $

    Formation

    Ailier gaucheCentreAilier droit
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    11 642 857 $11 642 857 $
    AG
    NMC
    UFA - 6
    Logo de Predators de Nashville
    4 000 000 $4 000 000 $
    C, AD
    UFA - 5
    Logo de Rangers de New York
    925 000 $925 000 $ (Bonis de performance2 650 000 $$3M)
    AD
    RFA - 2
    Logo de Rangers de New York
    6 500 000 $6 500 000 $
    AG
    NMC
    UFA - 7
    Logo de Rangers de New York
    5 350 000 $5 350 000 $
    C
    NMC
    UFA - 2
    Logo de Rangers de New York
    3 250 000 $3 250 000 $
    AG, AD, C
    UFA - 1
    2 150 000 $2 150 000 $
    C
    UFA - 1
    Logo de Rangers de New York
    894 166 $894 166 $ (Bonis de performance350 000 $$350K)
    C, AG
    UFA - 1
    Logo de Rangers de New York
    863 333 $863 333 $ (Bonis de performance300 000 $$300K)
    AD
    UFA - 1
    Logo de Rangers de New York
    1 450 000 $1 450 000 $
    AG, AD
    UFA - 2
    Logo de Rangers de New York
    925 000 $925 000 $ (Bonis de performance850 000 $$850K)
    AG, AD
    RFA - 2
    Logo de Rangers de New York
    894 166 $894 166 $ (Bonis de performance850 000 $$850K)
    C, AG
    RFA - 1
    Défenseur gaucherDéfenseur droitierGardien de but
    Logo de Rangers de New York
    925 000 $925 000 $ (Bonis de performance212 500 $$212K)
    DG
    RFA - 1
    Logo de Rangers de New York
    925 000 $925 000 $ (Bonis de performance850 000 $$850K)
    DD
    UFA - 2
    Logo de Rangers de New York
    925 000 $925 000 $ (Bonis de performance300 000 $$300K)
    DG
    RFA - 3
    Logo de Rangers de New York
    5 850 000 $5 850 000 $
    DD
    UFA - 2
    Logo de Rangers de New York
    925 000 $925 000 $ (Bonis de performance2 850 000 $$3M)
    G
    UFA - 1
    3 850 000 $3 850 000 $
    DG/DD
    UFA - 1
    Logo de Rangers de New York
    925 000 $925 000 $
    DD
    RFA
    Logo de Rangers de New York
    1 850 000 $1 850 000 $
    G
    UFA - 2
    Laissés de côtéListe des blessés (IR)Liste des blessés à long terme (LTIR)
    Logo de Rangers de New York
    5 700 000 $5 700 000 $
    DG
    NMC
    UFA - 1
    700 000 $700 000 $
    DD
    UFA - 1
    900 000 $900 000 $
    AG, AD
    UFA - 1

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    25 mars 2020 à 13 h 17
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    I dont think that package interests the Avs too much.
    Peronsally I would hate Strome as an addition, inflated offensive numbers playing top 6 minutes with Panarin, and hes not good defensively or on the PK, so hes not a 3C on a good team. I dont think hes worth the cost to get and what he would cost in his next contract

    If they do move Jost Zads, I would imagine it would be its for a quality not quantity return like you have proposed. They already have way too many guys fighting for roster spots, so adding 1 more in a 2 for 3 would create a bigger problem

    IMO, Buchnevich is the only guy I could see them targeting in a trade with the Rangers right now
    25 mars 2020 à 13 h 24
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    Wouldn't Nashville want Trouba to play behind Ellis, NYR want Domi for offense and MTL want Johansen for top line center? I don't think MTL would want Trouba, they're already set on the rightside.
    25 mars 2020 à 13 h 37
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    Modifié 25 mars 2020 à 13 h 43
    Quoting: coga16
    I dont think that package interests the Avs too much.


    No, I think he overpaying, i mean you have a guy who a offense powerhouse in Ryan Strome, Someone who could brakeout in Filip Chytil, and a defense defensemen prospect in Libor Hájek, for a guy who a really good underrated defenseman and a guy who slightly better than Filip Chytil. overall, just trading Strome would be enough
    25 mars 2020 à 13 h 39
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    Quoting: F50marco
    Wouldn't Nashville want Trouba to play behind Ellis, NYR want Domi for offense and MTL want Johansen for top line center? I don't think MTL would want Trouba, they're already set on the rightside.


    I'd say that's one perspective but I don't agree with it. Petry is gone after next year, Weber is a candidate for a compliance buyout (if they're not smart enough to choose Price) and Brook is coming off a mediocre season in the AHL. Romonov plays LD and he's probably the only Dman in the system with high-end top 4 potential. Meanwhile, between Suzuki, KK, Poehling and Danault I'd argue that C is a strength for the Habs.

    Meanwhile, Nashville most likely views Fabbro as a top 4 staple behind Ellis and don't want to leave him hanging on the 3rd pair. And Domi has the ability to play LW as well which helps their lineup flexibility considering Duchene, Turris and Tomasino all playing C.

    For NYR, either Domi or Johansen works, it's a toss up really. They'd take either.
    25 mars 2020 à 13 h 53
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    Quoting: coga16
    I dont think that package interests the Avs too much.
    Peronsally I would hate Strome as an addition, inflated offensive numbers playing top 6 minutes with Panarin, and hes not good defensively or on the PK, so hes not a 3C on a good team. I dont think hes worth the cost to get and what he would cost in his next contract

    If they do move Jost Zads, I would imagine it would be its for a quality not quantity return like you have proposed. They already have way too many guys fighting for roster spots, so adding 1 more in a 2 for 3 would create a bigger problem

    IMO, Buchnevich is the only guy I could see them targeting in a trade with the Rangers right now


    he's good defensively and on the PK stop just looking at stats and thinking you know what ur talking about
    25 mars 2020 à 14 h 2
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    Quoting: coga16
    I dont think that package interests the Avs too much.
    Peronsally I would hate Strome as an addition, inflated offensive numbers playing top 6 minutes with Panarin, and hes not good defensively or on the PK, so hes not a 3C on a good team. I dont think hes worth the cost to get and what he would cost in his next contract

    If they do move Jost Zads, I would imagine it would be its for a quality not quantity return like you have proposed. They already have way too many guys fighting for roster spots, so adding 1 more in a 2 for 3 would create a bigger problem

    IMO, Buchnevich is the only guy I could see them targeting in a trade with the Rangers right now


    This is a pretty lazy take I gotta say. Strome was at a 43 point pace last year as a 3rd line player with minimal PP time (well really the Rangers 3rd line last season would be Colorado's 4th line). Ryan Strome was on pace for about a 70 point season this year. That's the Panarin effect. With Panarin, Strome is basically Max Domi last year. And without Panarin, Strome is basically Max Domi this year. His defense will improve once he leaves the Rangers system, because Lindy Ruff's defensive system here in NY is terrible. You need only look at Kevin Shattenkirk and Neal Pionk to see some evidence of that.

    He's much better than you think. And he's >>>>>>Jost.
    25 mars 2020 à 14 h 57
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    Quoting: buchnevichh
    he's good defensively and on the PK stop just looking at stats and thinking you know what ur talking about


    when that was the exact assessment by other ranger fans who I have had this convo on the site about before, but sure im just being lazy when your own fan base agrees with that assessment
    25 mars 2020 à 14 h 57
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    This is a pretty lazy take I gotta say. Strome was at a 43 point pace last year as a 3rd line player with minimal PP time (well really the Rangers 3rd line last season would be Colorado's 4th line). Ryan Strome was on pace for about a 70 point season this year. That's the Panarin effect. With Panarin, Strome is basically Max Domi last year. And without Panarin, Strome is basically Max Domi this year. His defense will improve once he leaves the Rangers system, because Lindy Ruff's defensive system here in NY is terrible. You need only look at Kevin Shattenkirk and Neal Pionk to see some evidence of that.

    He's much better than you think. And he's >>>>>>Jost.


    its not a lazy take, its a common take that even some ranger fans agree with, but to each their own,
    Jost isnt in the middle 6, so what does compare Strome to him mean? Strome isnt taking Jost spot in the middle 6.
    25 mars 2020 à 17 h 57
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    I'd say that's one perspective but I don't agree with it. Petry is gone after next year, Weber is a candidate for a compliance buyout (if they're not smart enough to choose Price) and Brook is coming off a mediocre season in the AHL. Romonov plays LD and he's probably the only Dman in the system with high-end top 4 potential. Meanwhile, between Suzuki, KK, Poehling and Danault I'd argue that C is a strength for the Habs.

    Meanwhile, Nashville most likely views Fabbro as a top 4 staple behind Ellis and don't want to leave him hanging on the 3rd pair. And Domi has the ability to play LW as well which helps their lineup flexibility considering Duchene, Turris and Tomasino all playing C.

    For NYR, either Domi or Johansen works, it's a toss up really. They'd take either.


    From an outside perspective that's what you'd think but ask any Habs fan and they'd tell you they are perfectly happy with Weber and Price for the time being and moving them for nothing in return is not a viable option right now.. People often forget that in Montreal we don't have the luxury of signing free agents whenever we want so the idea of having to get rid of Price and Weber is unfounded. Both guys contracts will not hinder Montreal from anything in the future.

    As for Petry, the word around town is that MTL will probably resign him. The last TDL was the best time to trade him and they didn't budge. Either way Habs aren't going to trade for a RHD whilst their current ones are playing great.

    As for center depth, Danault is a top line center, Suzuki hasn't solidfied center yet, KK neither and Poehling is still trying to figure it out. Johansen could play center and move to the RW if needed.
    25 mars 2020 à 19 h 29
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    Quoting: F50marco
    From an outside perspective that's what you'd think but ask any Habs fan and they'd tell you they are perfectly happy with Weber and Price for the time being and moving them for nothing in return is not a viable option right now.. People often forget that in Montreal we don't have the luxury of signing free agents whenever we want so the idea of having to get rid of Price and Weber is unfounded. Both guys contracts will not hinder Montreal from anything in the future.

    As for Petry, the word around town is that MTL will probably resign him. The last TDL was the best time to trade him and they didn't budge. Either way Habs aren't going to trade for a RHD whilst their current ones are playing great.

    As for center depth, Danault is a top line center, Suzuki hasn't solidfied center yet, KK neither and Poehling is still trying to figure it out. Johansen could play center and move to the RW if needed.


    TBH, If Habs fans are totally fine with spending 30% of their cap on a goalie and 2 dmen all signed until they're about 40, well that's fine with me lol.
    25 mars 2020 à 21 h 47
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    TBH, If Habs fans are totally fine with spending 30% of their cap on a goalie and 2 dmen all signed until they're about 40, well that's fine with me lol.


    As opposed to? Panarin, Hall and Pietrangelo?

    Even if the Habs created all this space by getting rid of all 3 players, who would they be spending this money on exactly? They're simply taking up space that would be occupied by anything anyway so there really isn't a problem.
    25 mars 2020 à 22 h 18
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    As opposed to? Panarin, Hall and Pietrangelo?

    Even if the Habs created all this space by getting rid of all 3 players, who would they be spending this money on exactly? They're simply taking up space that would be occupied by anything anyway so there really isn't a problem.


    Is the question here what is the value of cap space if not to sign UFA's? I can't walk you through everything else you can do with the extra cap. But looking at how Carolina have transformed their roster over the last 3 years by utilizing their massive cap space and not really signing many UFA's at all should give you an idea.
     
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