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THERE IS NOT GOING TO BE CAP COMPLIANCE BUYOUTS

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Date de création initiale: 23 mars 2020
Publié: 23 mars 2020
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The cap is likely to remain the same. Teams should not be given compliance buyouts. Teams need to be accountable for the contracts they give out.

The reasons there were compliance buyouts with the current CBA was because of the drastic dip in the cap and new rules based on contracts themselves. None of that is applied here. So please stop with this dream of compliance buyouts.
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      23 mars 2020 à 16 h 29
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      Lol so were just gonna deal with having the same cap. Not happening.
      buyout has to be awarded if the cap stays the same. Teams that extended their players are prob mad
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      23 mars 2020 à 16 h 29
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      Actually since the NHL came out and said the cap would raise and teams started signing extensions to players based on a higher cap hit they might give teams a compliance buyout because if they don’t any team with an RFA who’s up against the cap now is screwed and going to lose their player for nothing. Columbus could fall into that category with Korpisalo, Anderson or PLD. Though I do think Columbus is in a better place then some teams like Tampa who are going to lose someone, just not all 3 of sergachev, Cerelli, and the other one who I’m forgetting his name now.
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      23 mars 2020 à 16 h 29
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      If the cap ends up dropping (which is very possible) then compliance buyouts would definitely be in order.
      23 mars 2020 à 16 h 29
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      There should be a compliance buyout or the cap should keep going up. Escrow rates are still rising so there should be things put in place to make sure the cap is rising as well
      23 mars 2020 à 16 h 29
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      There is a very realistic scenario here where the cap could drop. In that case, compliance buyouts are in the realm of possibility for sure.
      23 mars 2020 à 16 h 30
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      Your just saying that because Bob and Panarama didnt sign with you lol
      23 mars 2020 à 16 h 32
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      there is going to be a buyout given to teams. 2 weeks ago the cap was supposed to be 84-88.2 now were getting projections of 81.5 or lower. If buyouts are not awarded teams will be pissed, no one can afford anything resulting in a possible lockout. Not saying this scenario could happen but if a buyout is not awarded the league is in trouble
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      23 mars 2020 à 16 h 44
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      I agree with you!! I hope there no buyout compliance allowed and first of all i don’t know where they heard that crazy rumors.
      23 mars 2020 à 16 h 50
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      Quoting: aadoyle
      there is going to be a buyout given to teams. 2 weeks ago the cap was supposed to be 84-88.2 now were getting projections of 81.5 or lower. If buyouts are not awarded teams will be pissed, no one can afford anything resulting in a possible lockout. Not saying this scenario could happen but if a buyout is not awarded the league is in trouble


      There actually only three or four team that are in real danger if the cap stay put. All the other team can managed their way out, team will have to be creative. Boston didn’t wait and moved backes for a hefty price.
      23 mars 2020 à 16 h 56
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      Potential team for Korpisalo (don't think you should trade him) is New Jersey or Detroit
      23 mars 2020 à 17 h 11
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      I agree with this, GM's should have to deal with the contracts they signed, no get out of cap hell free cards!
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      23 mars 2020 à 17 h 45
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      Quoting: Ajp_18
      Actually since the NHL came out and said the cap would raise and teams started signing extensions to players based on a higher cap hit they might give teams a compliance buyout because if they don’t any team with an RFA who’s up against the cap now is screwed and going to lose their player for nothing. Columbus could fall into that category with Korpisalo, Anderson or PLD. Though I do think Columbus is in a better place then some teams like Tampa who are going to lose someone, just not all 3 of sergachev, Cerelli, and the other one who I’m forgetting his name now.


      I agree with your statement that teams were basing signings on the projected 86m cap, so the NHL and NHLPA will have to adjust to the "Coronna cap". Let's say 15% drop. I believe that players even with their current contracts are going to have to take a reduction, no just compliance buyouts or currently unsigned players. The NHLPA will vote on this and I juts don't see that the majority members will sacrifice so much for their salaries, when the option is there that players with current contracts take a similar reduction.
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      23 mars 2020 à 18 h 0
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      Welcome to the world of cap hell that teams like Chi have been living in for years.
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      23 mars 2020 à 19 h 36
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      Quoting: Ajp_18
      Actually since the NHL came out and said the cap would raise and teams started signing extensions to players based on a higher cap hit they might give teams a compliance buyout because if they don’t any team with an RFA who’s up against the cap now is screwed and going to lose their player for nothing. Columbus could fall into that category with Korpisalo, Anderson or PLD. Though I do think Columbus is in a better place then some teams like Tampa who are going to lose someone, just not all 3 of sergachev, Cerelli, and the other one who I’m forgetting his name now.


      Then those GMs should be fired for having a memory that only goes back about 6 months. Last summer they said the cap was going to be higher and then teams started extending their pending RFAs and UFAs, the actual cap was announced lower than previously stated. Only an idiot heard Daly say $84m-88m and thought that was actually happening while the players would need to approve it and were still losing money to escrow. Teams will have to get creative and I say that as a Caps fan, which was one of the most cap strapped teams this season and yet figured out how to ice a good team.
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      23 mars 2020 à 19 h 48
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      Then those GMs should be fired for having a memory that only goes back about 6 months. Last summer they said the cap was going to be higher and then teams started extending their pending RFAs and UFAs, the actual cap was announced lower than previously stated. Only an idiot heard Daly say $84m-88m and thought that was actually happening while the players would need to approve it and were still losing money to escrow. Teams will have to get creative and I say that as a Caps fan, which was one of the most cap strapped teams this season and yet figured out how to ice a good team.


      Lol. So you’d fire an GM who’s signed an extension in the last 6 months? I don’t think so.... I’m honestly not sure why you choose to quote me but fine. Players like Muzzins we signed because there was an expectation on the league numbers that the cap would increase. Same with other extensions for players. I hate to say it but signing an extension so you don’t lose a key player for your team is important. Washington is actually one of the better managed cap teams in the NHL. It’s teams like Detroit, Tampa and Toronto who will be losing players, Tampa will also struggle to put a 20 player team on the ice without help due to contracts signed in the past 3 years. If the cap ends up going down like they’re saying it will the KHL will get a good influx of players who NHL teams just can’t afford. Like sergachev, Cerelli, and others.
      23 mars 2020 à 19 h 56
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      Lol. So you’d fire an GM who’s signed an extension in the last 6 months? I don’t think so.... I’m honestly not sure why you choose to quote me but fine. Players like Muzzins we signed because there was an expectation on the league numbers that the cap would increase. Same with other extensions for players. I hate to say it but signing an extension so you don’t lose a key player for your team is important. Washington is actually one of the better managed cap teams in the NHL. It’s teams like Detroit, Tampa and Toronto who will be losing players, Tampa will also struggle to put a 20 player team on the ice without help due to contracts signed in the past 3 years. If the cap ends up going down like they’re saying it will the KHL will get a good influx of players who NHL teams just can’t afford. Like sergachev, Cerelli, and others.


      I quoted you because you mentioned teams signing players after the “cap” was announced.

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      Actually since the NHL came out and said the cap would raise and teams started signing extensions to players based on a higher cap hit they might give teams a compliance buyoutbecause if they don’t any team with an RFA who’s up against the cap now is screwed and going to lose their player for nothing. Columbus could fall into that category with Korpisalo, Anderson or PLD. Though I do think Columbus is in a better place then some teams like Tampa who are going to lose someone, just not all 3 of sergachev, Cerelli, and the other one who I’m forgetting his name now.


      Somehow I don’t feel bad for Tampa. All those awful contracts they gave out with NTC coming back to bite them. Toronto? Maybe don’t pay half your salary cap to 4 players? Detroit? It’ll help their rebuild I guess, not like they’re doing anything but drafting top 5 in 2021.
      23 mars 2020 à 20 h 5
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      I quoted you because you mentioned teams signing players after the “cap” was announced.



      Somehow I don’t feel bad for Tampa. All those awful contracts they gave out with NTC coming back to bite them. Toronto? Maybe don’t pay half your salary cap to 4 players? Detroit? It’ll help their rebuild I guess, not like they’re doing anything but drafting top 5 in 2021.


      Tampa and Toronto I don’t feel bad for. But Detroit will lose their young players because of it so it won’t help with their rebuild. Teams are going to lose their RFAs because they can’t afford to keep them and other teams won’t be able to sign them... so the NHL is going to their players to the KHL.
      23 mars 2020 à 20 h 46
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      Tampa and Toronto I don’t feel bad for. But Detroit will lose their young players because of it so it won’t help with their rebuild. Teams are going to lose their RFAs because they can’t afford to keep them and other teams won’t be able to sign them... so the NHL is going to their players to the KHL.


      Detroit has around $34m in cap space to sign all of their players. They'll figure out how to sign the guys who are part of their future and let the guys who aren't go. Given who their GM is, it'll probably be with some franchise crippling NTCs to lower the cap hit, they'll be fine.
      23 mars 2020 à 20 h 49
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      Tampa and Toronto I don’t feel bad for. But Detroit will lose their young players because of it so it won’t help with their rebuild. Teams are going to lose their RFAs because they can’t afford to keep them and other teams won’t be able to sign them... so the NHL is going to their players to the KHL.


      Your worry about the KHL? Please... would a player rather make $3m to play for a team with cap space like Columbus or play in Vladivlastock for $1m. That may or may not be a team in the KHL, my point is if you're not playing in Moscow or St. Petersburg, the money isn't there.
      23 mars 2020 à 21 h 23
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      Your worry about the KHL? Please... would a player rather make $3m to play for a team with cap space like Columbus or play in Vladivlastock for $1m. That may or may not be a team in the KHL, my point is if you're not playing in Moscow or St. Petersburg, the money isn't there.


      Columbus won’t have the money to spend... they have their own contracts. For some players it may be KHL or nothing next year if all the teams are up against the cap...about the only team who could sine multiple players is Ottawa... he’s the other part of it... they have to offer them a contract too. Ottawa might be the only one who has the cap room to sign Hall to a reasonable contract this year... so now you have players taking less and skewing the market for next season unless everyone desires to take bridge contracts...

      You’re making it seem like the cap not going up doesn’t just screw everyone. This screws the player more then anyone else. The players end up not being paid what they’re worth and skew the market down next season because of it...

      I will also say this. No one has any idea of what’s really going to happen so it’s all just speculation at this point. No ones right and no ones wrong.
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      Quoting: Ajp_18
      Columbus won’t have the money to spend... they have their own contracts. For some players it may be KHL or nothing next year if all the teams are up against the cap...about the only team who could sine multiple players is Ottawa... he’s the other part of it... they have to offer them a contract too. Ottawa might be the only one who has the cap room to sign Hall to a reasonable contract this year... so now you have players taking less and skewing the market for next season unless everyone desires to take bridge contracts...

      You’re making it seem like the cap not going up doesn’t just screw everyone. This screws the player more then anyone else. The players end up not being paid what they’re worth and skew the market down next season because of it...

      I will also say this. No one has any idea of what’s really going to happen so it’s all just speculation at this point. No ones right and no ones wrong.


      So you're saying poor Taylor Hall might not get overpaid by some GM with more cap space than sense? How ever will he pay his bills, we should probably start a GoFundMe right now to get this handled before he's homeless.
      23 mars 2020 à 23 h 20
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      So you're saying poor Taylor Hall might not get overpaid by some GM with more cap space than sense? How ever will he pay his bills, we should probably start a GoFundMe right now to get this handled before he's homeless.


      Okay... go away:.. you’re acting like a child now. Please stop.
      24 mars 2020 à 0 h 15
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      Quoting: Ajp_18
      Columbus won’t have the money to spend... they have their own contracts. For some players it may be KHL or nothing next year if all the teams are up against the cap...about the only team who could sine multiple players is Ottawa... he’s the other part of it... they have to offer them a contract too. Ottawa might be the only one who has the cap room to sign Hall to a reasonable contract this year... so now you have players taking less and skewing the market for next season unless everyone desires to take bridge contracts...

      You’re making it seem like the cap not going up doesn’t just screw everyone. This screws the player more then anyone else. The players end up not being paid what they’re worth and skew the market down next season because of it...

      I will also say this. No one has any idea of what’s really going to happen so it’s all just speculation at this point. No ones right and no ones wrong.


      Teams should know by now that the cap can fluctuate. That was just an estimate. The cap will likely stay the same. If that is the case teams will just have to adjust to it. Plain and simple. When the CBA was sign the cap went down a very significant amount. Which prompted owner to ask for compliance buyouts because there just was no other way. There is ways but teams will need to be creative. The CBJ too.
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      Quoting: aadoyle
      there is going to be a buyout given to teams. 2 weeks ago the cap was supposed to be 84-88.2 now were getting projections of 81.5 or lower. If buyouts are not awarded teams will be pissed, no one can afford anything resulting in a possible lockout. Not saying this scenario could happen but if a buyout is not awarded the league is in trouble


      No there won't be. Look teams are expected to manage to cap. Those were just estimates. Last season everyone thought the cap was going up to 83 or 84 mil. The cap ended up at 81.5 mil. Teams are not going to get bailed out because they were overzealous. Again, cap compliance buyouts were only made available with the original signing of the current CBA because almost every team would have been unable to achieve compliancy. That is not the case here. Teams need to navigate the cap and make creative deals to manage it.
      24 mars 2020 à 0 h 36
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      Modifié 24 mars 2020 à 0 h 47
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      No there won't be. Look teams are expected to manage to cap. Those were just estimates. Last season everyone thought the cap was going up to 83 or 84 mil. The cap ended up at 81.5 mil. Teams are not going to get bailed out because they were overzealous. Again, cap compliance buyouts were only made available with the original signing of the current CBA because almost every team would have been unable to achieve compliancy. That is not the case here. Teams need to navigate the cap and make creative deals to manage it.


      trust me knowing the league they are going to grant it. Most Teams have already signed contracts already expecting the cap to be 84-88.2 million. The league knows this. When the cap stayed the same back in 2013 due to a lockout each team was therefore granted two compliance buyouts. If a compliance buyout was granted back than they will do it now especially since the cap is projected to stay the same or even drop next season. Situations like this call for a compliance buy out or the league is screwed and when they return and have that meeting that agreement to not hold a lockout could be voided. If a lockout could grant 2 buyouts than this stoppage of hockey due to corona should also grant one
       
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