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Real top 5 every position

Créé par: Jack_
Équipe: 2019-20 Équipe personnalisée
Date de création initiale: 23 mars 2020
Publié: 23 mars 2020
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23 mars 2020 à 14 h 33
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Vasy should be here
23 mars 2020 à 14 h 34
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I hate this team
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Marchand>ovi is bullshat
23 mars 2020 à 14 h 34
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You misspelled DRAISAITL.
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23 mars 2020 à 14 h 39
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Quoting: Teemu_salami
Vasy should be here


Quoting: Nohate
Marchand>ovi is bullshat


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You misspelled DRAISAITL.


The top 5 at each position of you only use advanced stats is more accurate.... is this the same guy who rates Justin Holl over Seth Jones.
23 mars 2020 à 14 h 40
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Rielly > Heiskanen
23 mars 2020 à 14 h 40
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Rielly > Heiskanen


Seth Jones > Jared Spurgeon
23 mars 2020 à 14 h 42
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Quoting: Teemu_salami
Vasy should be here


His GSAx is not great. Hes the beneficiary of being on a good team, hes good but not top 5 good
23 mars 2020 à 14 h 42
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Seth Jones > Jared Spurgeon


Not even close
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Rielly > Heiskanen


Still no
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23 mars 2020 à 14 h 44
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At what position? I wasnt sure where to put him. If Hes a RW'er then hes on this list instead of marner. If hes a LW'er hes on here instead of hall or huberdeau. I dont know which side he plays most
23 mars 2020 à 14 h 44
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So, Jarry had a solid run for 30 games and is now a top 5 goalie in the league?

That's way too early of a call, you need proven seasons to call a goalie top 5. Literally most NHL goalies go through a similarly good run at just above .920%at some point in their careers.

Personally, I'd have
1. Vasilevsky
2. Price
3. Rask
3. Hellebuyck
5. Gibson
6. Rinne / Bobrovsky
23 mars 2020 à 14 h 44
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Marchand>ovi is bullshat


Marchand is top 5 in the nhl in GAR and xGAR. He should be in hart conversation
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23 mars 2020 à 14 h 49
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The top 5 at each position of you only use advanced stats is more accurate.... is this the same guy who rates Justin Holl over Seth Jones.


Purely basing it off GAR justin holl and seth Jones have produced the same amount of goals this season. My point was never that holl is better then Jones. He obviously isnt but my point was to prove that the people on this site primarily use the pure outcomes of what happen instead of what should have happened. By that logic holl is just as good as jones (he isnt).
23 mars 2020 à 14 h 54
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Purely basing it off GAR justin holl and seth Jones have produced the same amount of goals this season. My point was never that holl is better then Jones. He obviously isnt but my point was to prove that the people on this site primarily use the pure outcomes of what happen instead of what should have happened. By that logic holl is just as good as jones (he isnt).


My point exactly.... Jones is better then you give him credit for... Holl is good, but by your advanced stats Jones shouldn’t be a top 4 defenseman in the NHL where as Spergeron is a number 1? Spergeron isn’t even the best defenseman on his own team he gets to free wheel all over the ice because Suter is so good defensively he makes up for Spergeron.
23 mars 2020 à 14 h 55
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I kinda like this
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23 mars 2020 à 15 h 2
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My point exactly.... Jones is better then you give him credit for... Holl is good, but by your advanced stats Jones shouldn’t be a top 4 defenseman in the NHL where as Spergeron is a number 1? Spergeron isn’t even the best defenseman on his own team he gets to free wheel all over the ice because Suter is so good defensively he makes up for Spergeron.


You are extremely under rating spurgeon. Hes by far the best on his team. That goes without saying hes way better then Jones and it isnt close
My point about holl being better then Jones was that people on here only look at results instead of what should have happened. Just like I said in my last reply. It was to prove that the results and the skill that people see can be wrong and they should be looking at expected goals more then just points and ordinary counting stats. I wasnt trying to prove that holl was better because it's not true. Holl has had a better season but he isnt better. Part of it was me pointing out that Jones' is slightly overrated and his xG numbers arent earthshattering but hes better then holl
23 mars 2020 à 15 h 10
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You are extremely under rating spurgeon. Hes by far the best on his team. That goes without saying hes way better then Jones and it isnt close
My point about holl being better then Jones was that people on here only look at results instead of what should have happened. Just like I said in my last reply. It was to prove that the results and the skill that people see can be wrong and they should be looking at expected goals more then just points and ordinary counting stats. I wasnt trying to prove that holl was better because it's not true. Holl has had a better season but he isnt better. Part of it was me pointing out that Jones' is slightly overrated and his xG numbers arent earthshattering but hes better then holl


Thanks for proving my point that this is built solely on advanced stats..... and that you blindly follow them.
23 mars 2020 à 15 h 16
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Wheeler>marner
23 mars 2020 à 15 h 16
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Thanks for proving my point that this is built solely on advanced stats..... and that you blindly follow them.


I dont understand what you mean at all. I also think you dont get what im saying either. I'm saying that people cherry pick stats and only look at results to prove their point. Holl vs Jones was just an example. That also tied into a different point of Jones being overrated but that wasnt my main point. Stats describe what happened during the game. We need them because our eyes lie to us.
23 mars 2020 à 15 h 19
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At what position? I wasnt sure where to put him. If Hes a RW'er then hes on this list instead of marner. If hes a LW'er hes on here instead of hall or huberdeau. I dont know which side he plays most


He plays center the most. He's 15th in the league in total faceoffs over the past 3 years.
23 mars 2020 à 15 h 19
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Ryan suter is still top 5
23 mars 2020 à 15 h 24
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No need to bicker over little changes here and there. Let's all come together in disagreement to putting Jarry as a top-5 goaltender in the league for a 33-game performance. Replace him with one of Tuukka Rask, Andrei Vasilevskiy, Darcy Kuemper, Aantti Raanta, Ben Bishop, Jaro Halak, and even the #1 sv% goalie right now (Anton Khudobin).
23 mars 2020 à 15 h 27
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I dont understand what you mean at all. I also think you dont get what im saying either. I'm saying that people cherry pick stats and only look at results to prove their point. Holl vs Jones was just an example. That also tied into a different point of Jones being overrated but that wasnt my main point. Stats describe what happened during the game. We need them because our eyes lie to us.


Our eyes lie to us... that’s funny. Blindly flowing stats is funny to. You need a mix of both if you really truly want to find the best players.
23 mars 2020 à 15 h 32
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YES, thank you... The other guy didn't even include Josi. I would add Vasilevskiy and Bishop though
23 mars 2020 à 15 h 32
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I would also add Drasaitl
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