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Équipe: 2020-21 Bruins de Boston
Date de création initiale: 23 mars 2020
Publié: 23 mars 2020
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23 mars 2020 à 4 h 7
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So a decent goalie prospect for a cap dump with 3 more years (John Moore) and a guy playing in Sweden... No thanks.
23 mars 2020 à 5 h 28
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So a decent goalie prospect for a cap dump with 3 more years (John Moore) and a guy playing in Sweden... No thanks.


Former 2nd rd pick and Moore is better than every LHD exept for Chabot
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23 mars 2020 à 6 h 59
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So a decent goalie prospect for a cap dump with 3 more years (John Moore) and a guy playing in Sweden... No thanks.


Dont worry, Bruins have zero need for Daccord as Boston has significantly better goalie prospects already in the system.
23 mars 2020 à 7 h 20
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Former 2nd rd pick and Moore is better than every LHD exept for Chabot


Well, Wolanin and Brannstrom are, if ready.


And Nordstrom+Halak are gone. I think they go with the a bridge deal for DeBrusk.
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23 mars 2020 à 8 h 58
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Former 2nd rd pick and Moore is better than every LHD exept for Chabot


John Moore is best a bottom pairing d man and Ottawa doesn't need good players. They need prospects
23 mars 2020 à 12 h 38
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Huge Overpay on Krug, and you arent getting Halak back for less than 4 million, BUT all the rest of it is good!!

Just switch Halak with some random backup for 2.5 million

GOOD JOB!!!
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23 mars 2020 à 12 h 40
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So a decent goalie prospect for a cap dump with 3 more years (John Moore) and a guy playing in Sweden... No thanks.


Wrong.

John Moore isnt a cap dump, and JFK would come back to play in Ottawa (likely getting NHL minutes)
Sens would be dumb to reject
23 mars 2020 à 13 h 28
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Huge Overpay on Krug, and you arent getting Halak back for less than 4 million, BUT all the rest of it is good!!

Just switch Halak with some random backup for 2.5 million

GOOD JOB!!!


That's a fair contract for Krug actually. Any less and he signs elsewhere.

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Wrong.

John Moore isnt a cap dump, and JFK would come back to play in Ottawa (likely getting NHL minutes)
Sens would be dumb to reject


Wrong. You guys can keep him then. You guys signed him as a UFA and since then he hasn't been playing as well.
We don't need LHD we have Chabot, Rielly, Borowiecki, Wolanin, Englund and Brannstrom. What we need is RHD or prospects.

We'd take a 3rd for Nilsson
23 mars 2020 à 15 h 33
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That's a fair contract for Krug actually. Any less and he signs elsewhere.

Moore JFK vs Nilsson
Wrong. You guys can keep him then. You guys signed him as a UFA and since then he hasn't been playing as well.
We don't need LHD we have Chabot, Rielly, Borowiecki, Wolanin, Englund and Brannstrom. What we need is RHD or prospects.

We'd take a 3rd for Nilsson
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That's a fair contract for Krug actually. Any less and he signs elsewhere.


Wrong. You guys can keep him then. You guys signed him as a UFA and since then he hasn't been playing as well.
We don't need LHD we have Chabot, Rielly, Borowiecki, Wolanin, Englund and Brannstrom. What we need is RHD or prospects.

We'd take a 3rd for Nilsson


Moore JFK vs Nilsson ?
24 mars 2020 à 11 h 41
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That's a fair contract for Krug actually. Any less and he signs elsewhere.



Wrong. You guys can keep him then. You guys signed him as a UFA and since then he hasn't been playing as well.
We don't need LHD we have Chabot, Rielly, Borowiecki, Wolanin, Englund and Brannstrom. What we need is RHD or prospects.

We'd take a 3rd for Nilsson


Not true at all unfortunately and I wish u would do research before commenting.
Krug will go for about 8 elsewhere yes. BUT, he would take a discount to go home or stay in Boston (so 6.75 in Boston or Detroit).

To your second point, if you don’t want Moore, don’t make the trade, but I am right again and he is not a cap dump. He will trade him somewhere for a 3rd or 4th and he will make a good 2nd to 3rd d pair guy.
24 mars 2020 à 17 h 44
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Not true at all unfortunately and I wish u would do research before commenting.
Krug will go for about 8 elsewhere yes. BUT, he would take a discount to go home or stay in Boston (so 6.75 in Boston or Detroit).

To your second point, if you don’t want Moore, don’t make the trade, but I am right again and he is not a cap dump. He will trade him somewhere for a 3rd or 4th and he will make a good 2nd to 3rd d pair guy.


He wouldn't make a good second pair guy, he's a third pair guy getting paid a million too much. I think the Bruins would be very happy to dump him for nothing but 2.75M in cap space.
25 mars 2020 à 10 h 32
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He wouldn't make a good second pair guy, he's a third pair guy getting paid a million too much. I think the Bruins would be very happy to dump him for nothing but 2.75M in cap space.


Kevan Miller - 2.5
Stephen Johns 2.35
Jamie Oleksiak - 2.13
Marco Scandella - 2
Patrick Nameth - 3

That was just looking at 5 teams .These are all guys around the same level of play. Some play on the 3rd pair, some play on the 2nd (BECAUSE THEY HAVE WEAK D-CORES).
If the bruins were a weaker team (like the Devils where he came from), he would probably be a 2nd pair guy.

You are not right. The bruins would DUMP him for a 4th, but would Trade him for a 3rd
25 mars 2020 à 17 h 16
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Kevan Miller - 2.5
Stephen Johns 2.35
Jamie Oleksiak - 2.13
Marco Scandella - 2
Patrick Nameth - 3

That was just looking at 5 teams .These are all guys around the same level of play. Some play on the 3rd pair, some play on the 2nd (BECAUSE THEY HAVE WEAK D-CORES).
If the bruins were a weaker team (like the Devils where he came from), he would probably be a 2nd pair guy.

You are not right. The bruins would DUMP him for a 4th, but would Trade him for a 3rd


Of the guys you posted Moore has one of the higher contracts. On top of that most of the players there have the advantage of being younger, being on shorter terms, being right handed or just being better (Scandella) than Moore.

I agree if you retain on Moore then starts to have value. But without retention he isn't worth anything... you might be able to trade him for future considerations.

Would the Bruins give up a 4th for Nameth?
25 mars 2020 à 19 h 17
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Of the guys you posted Moore has one of the higher contracts. On top of that most of the players there have the advantage of being younger, being on shorter terms, being right handed or just being better (Scandella) than Moore.

I agree if you retain on Moore then starts to have value. But without retention he isn't worth anything... you might be able to trade him for future considerations.

Would the Bruins give up a 4th for Nameth?


Bruins wouldn’t because they don’t need anymore dmen. Other teams would 1000% sooooo like I said, if YOU (YOU, or THE SENS) don’t want him, don’t trade for him, BUT other teams would 1000% give up a 4th for a roster player.

Erik Gustafson for a 3rd
Dereck forbort for a 4th that becomes a 3rd
Nick cousins (a bottom line forward) for a 4th
Tyler ennis went for a 5th, and he hasn’t been able to make a roster the past few years easily
Etc etc. I think the issue is that you don’t remember how good Moore is because he hasn’t been able to play on the deep bruins roster. BUT factually he is worth a 4th
25 mars 2020 à 19 h 32
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Of the guys you posted Moore has one of the higher contracts. On top of that most of the players there have the advantage of being younger, being on shorter terms, being right handed or just being better (Scandella) than Moore.

I agree if you retain on Moore then starts to have value. But without retention he isn't worth anything... you might be able to trade him for future considerations.

Would the Bruins give up a 4th for Nameth?


Lastly: just because I did the research:
John Moore had 20:16 TOI/game in his last season with the devils, 4th most on the team. He had 18 points in 81 games (about .25 PPG), 22 points in like 70 games the year before. Even in his first season with the bruins he had I think 12 points in like 60 games, also not bad and also had 2nd dpair minutes. He was, in fact, a solid 2nd dpair guy. Moving to this year, bruins had Chara, krug, griz, lauzon... he got screwed out of even 3rd line minutes. That doesn’t mean he is bad
25 mars 2020 à 20 h 9
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Lastly: just because I did the research:
John Moore had 20:16 TOI/game in his last season with the devils, 4th most on the team. He had 18 points in 81 games (about .25 PPG), 22 points in like 70 games the year before. Even in his first season with the bruins he had I think 12 points in like 60 games, also not bad and also had 2nd dpair minutes. He was, in fact, a solid 2nd dpair guy. Moving to this year, bruins had Chara, krug, griz, lauzon... he got screwed out of even 3rd line minutes. That doesn’t mean he is bad


He got signed based on his 2nd D pair minutes but he is really a 3rd D pair player. He is not bad by any means, however, his contract is too high for what he is. His contract is like the poor man's version of the Marner contract, it brings his trade value down.
26 mars 2020 à 9 h 40
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He got signed based on his 2nd D pair minutes but he is really a 3rd D pair player. He is not bad by any means, however, his contract is too high for what he is. His contract is like the poor man's version of the Marner contract, it brings his trade value down.


Exactly, based on his play and value, he is worth a 3rd. He is still 28, and locked to a deal till he is 32, any team that needs a fairly cheap 2-3 dpair guy would love him. HOWVER, because he is slightly more expective than where he should be I guess, drop it to a 4th. That’s where you get the value.
 
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