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11 mars 2020 à 14 h 40
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Hes not though
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11 mars 2020 à 14 h 41
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lol that is funny. Rangers fans I tell ya! ha
11 mars 2020 à 14 h 45
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And Kaapo Kakko is a top 10 winger
11 mars 2020 à 14 h 47
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And Kaapo Kakko is a top 10 winger


Hes been awful tbh, but its probably just being a rookie and all
11 mars 2020 à 14 h 49
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Hes been awful tbh, but its probably just being a rookie and all


he will be good for 45-50 points next year
11 mars 2020 à 14 h 51
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he will be good for 45-50 points next year


I can hope, we'll have tons of firepower next season if healthy
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11 mars 2020 à 14 h 53
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I can hope, we'll have tons of firepower next season if healthy


You guys kind of remind me of my jets 2 years ago when we destroyed everbody and our offence was probably the best in the league. Can you guys do us a favour and beat Calgary, and Arizona for us smile
11 mars 2020 à 14 h 54
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You guys kind of remind me of my jets 2 years ago when we destroyed everbody and our offence was probably the best in the league. Can you guys do us a favour and beat Calgary, and Arizona for us smile


Let us beat the avs first
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11 mars 2020 à 15 h 2
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Hes been awful tbh, but its probably just being a rookie and all


Patrik Stef... I mean Jack Hughes is even worse.
11 mars 2020 à 15 h 4
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Yeah. You're not wrong. Knew the NHL was snubbing him last summer when he wasn't top 20... Currently 5th in goals (40), 7th in points per game (1.32) and has tied his career high in points, in 26 less games. Guy's been nasty and I'm glad everyone's starting to see it.
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11 mars 2020 à 15 h 30
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Oh he is 100% if u base it on this year and last. He’s top 5 in goals top 15 in points and he’s missed 14 games. He’s solid at winning draws and he’s on the penalty kill. He doesn’t play with all stars and he still is doing this. He’s top 15 centre
11 mars 2020 à 15 h 46
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lol that is funny. Rangers fans I tell ya! ha


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Hes not though


40 goals?
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11 mars 2020 à 15 h 48
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40 goals?


slightly above average
11 mars 2020 à 15 h 57
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40 goals?


Ok. There are still probably 20 better centers in the nhl
11 mars 2020 à 16 h 23
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Ok. There are still probably 20 better centers in the nhl


Name them?
11 mars 2020 à 16 h 23
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Ok. There are still probably 20 better centers in the nhl


He has the fifth highest points per game out of all centers with 20 games or more played. Above names like Matthews, Tavares, etc. And that's on a team that hasn't been above the wild card line all year.
If you take back stats to last season, he is 10th on the list. Considering how good he is defensively as well, your statement is just very typical leaf-fan
11 mars 2020 à 18 h 6
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Name them?


In no particular order
McDavid
Crosby
Malkin
MacKinnon
Matthews
Tavares
Aho
Pettersson
Couturier
Barzal
Eichel
Cirelli
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Kuznetsov
without looking at their stats I think backstrom and Dubois are probably better.

Draisaitl would also be better but that's up to you, you may think hes a winger or a center
11 mars 2020 à 18 h 17
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In no particular order
McDavid
Crosby
Malkin
MacKinnon
Matthews
Tavares
Aho
Pettersson
Couturier
Barzal
Eichel
Cirelli
Bergeron
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Scheifele
O'rielly
Kuznetsov
without looking at their stats I think backstrom and Dubois are probably better.

Draisaitl would also be better but that's up to you, you may think hes a winger or a center


Zib produces as much as kuz, is better defensively, and kuz is a trainwreck from the dot
Barzal, struggled as soon as he wasn't sheltered on the 2nd line, granted hes been better against other top lines this season, hes also worse defensively and also horrible at faceoffs
Cirelli while amazing defensively, doesn't produce enough enough offensively to cover the gap
Petterson also worse defensively and horrible at faceoffs
Backstrom and dubois just aren't close
Aho is probably closest to him
11 mars 2020 à 19 h 49
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He has the fifth highest points per game out of all centers with 20 games or more played. Above names like Matthews, Tavares, etc. And that's on a team that hasn't been above the wild card line all year.
If you take back stats to last season, he is 10th on the list. Considering how good he is defensively as well, your statement is just very typical leaf-fan


He isnt good defensively. Hes a negative possession player and has something like a 45% xG. Hes fantastic offensively but to say hes a top 15 center in the nhl isnt true at all
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Zib produces as much as kuz, is better defensively, and kuz is a trainwreck from the dot
Barzal, struggled as soon as he wasn't sheltered on the 2nd line, granted hes been better against other top lines this season, hes also worse defensively and also horrible at faceoffs
Cirelli while amazing defensively, doesn't produce enough enough offensively to cover the gap
Petterson also worse defensively and horrible at faceoffs
Backstrom and dubois just aren't close
Aho is probably closest to him


Faceoffs arent that important and zib isnt good defensively. Lie I said in my latest post on this thread he is fantastic offensively but he is also playing against secondary competition. Cirelli should probably be nominated for the selke this season and will still have probably 55-60 points all while not getting much time on the PP
12 mars 2020 à 8 h 9
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He isnt good defensively. Hes a negative possession player and has something like a 45% xG. Hes fantastic offensively but to say hes a top 15 center in the nhl isnt true at all


lol what are you talking about?
his CF% is 50.1 and his rel is +4.0 (and has always been a positive number since his rookie season). I really don't think you've ever watched a ranger game to be honest with these statements.
12 mars 2020 à 9 h 3
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lol what are you talking about?
his CF% is 50.1 and his rel is +4.0 (and has always been a positive number since his rookie season). I really don't think you've ever watched a ranger game to be honest with these statements.


On natural stat trick they have him at what I said
12 mars 2020 à 9 h 28
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On natural stat trick they have him at what I said


https://www.hockey-reference.com/players/z/zibanmi01.html

shows all even strength.. and the rangers are a non-playoff team and generally a negative possession team (due to the way their defensive structure is)
12 mars 2020 à 10 h 3
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Quoting: Spanky227
https://www.hockey-reference.com/players/z/zibanmi01.html

shows all even strength.. and the rangers are a non-playoff team and generally a negative possession team (due to the way their defensive structure is)


I usually use hockey reference but I wanted to look at xG% as well, HR doesn't have it.
 
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