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Offering the sheet

Créé par: yikes
Équipe: 2020-21 Sharks de San Jose
Date de création initiale: 10 mars 2020
Publié: 10 mars 2020
Mode - plafond salarial: Basique
Signatures de joueurs autonomes
RFAANSCAP HIT
54 500 000 $
21 450 000 $
58 454 870 $
UFAANSCAP HIT
21 550 000 $
53 975 000 $
Offres hostiles
Le salaire annuel moyen (AAV) de l'offre hostile est calculé en divisant la valeur totale du contrat par: 1. La durée totale du contrat, ou 2. Cinq ans
JOUEURAAVCOMPENSATION
Cirelli, Anthony8 454 870 $
Choix de 1e ronde en 2021
Choix de 2e ronde en 2021
Choix de 3e ronde en 2021
Transactions
1.
SJS
  1. Choix de 2e ronde en 2021 (SJS)
OTT
  1. Gambrell, Dylan
  2. Sörensen, Marcus
  3. Choix de 2e ronde en 2022 (SJS)
2.
MTL
  1. Kotkov, Vladislav
  2. Vlasic, Marc-Édouard
  3. Choix de 3e ronde en 2021 (WSH)
Enfoui
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2021
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2022
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TAILLE DE LA FORMATIONPLAFOND SALARIALCAP HITEXCÉDENTS Info-bulleBONISESPACE SOUS LE PLAFOND SALARIAL
2084 500 000 $76 146 536 $0 $537 500 $8 353 464 $
Ailier gaucheCentreAilier droit
Logo de Sharks de San Jose
7 000 000 $7 000 000 $
AG, AD
M-NTC
UFA - 5
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8 000 000 $8 000 000 $
C
M-NTC
UFA - 7
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5 625 000 $5 625 000 $
C
M-NTC
UFA - 2
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3 000 000 $3 000 000 $
AG, AD
UFA - 3
Logo de Sharks de San Jose
4 500 000 $4 500 000 $
AD, AG
UFA - 4
Logo de Sharks de San Jose
925 000 $925 000 $
AG
UFA - 1
8 454 870 $8 454 870 $
C, AG
UFA - 3
Logo de Sharks de San Jose
763 333 $763 333 $ (Bonis de performance20 000 $$20K)
C, AD
RFA - 1
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836 667 $836 667 $ (Bonis de performance132 500 $$132K)
AG, AD
UFA - 2
Logo de Sharks de San Jose
1 450 000 $1 450 000 $
C
UFA - 2
Logo de Sharks de San Jose
736 666 $736 666 $ (Bonis de performance20 000 $$20K)
AD, AG
UFA - 1
Logo de Sharks de San Jose
778 333 $778 333 $ (Bonis de performance132 500 $$132K)
C
RFA - 2
Défenseur gaucherDéfenseur droitierGardien de but
3 975 000 $3 975 000 $
DG
UFA - 4
Logo de Sharks de San Jose
10 000 000 $10 000 000 $
DD
NMC
UFA - 7
Logo de Sharks de San Jose
5 750 000 $5 750 000 $
G
M-NTC
UFA - 4
Logo de Sharks de San Jose
925 000 $925 000 $ (Bonis de performance212 500 $$212K)
DG
UFA - 2
Logo de Sharks de San Jose
5 280 000 $5 280 000 $
DD
M-NTC
UFA - 5
Logo de Sharks de San Jose
2 250 000 $2 250 000 $
DG/DD
UFA - 4
Logo de Sharks de San Jose
796 667 $796 667 $ (Bonis de performance20 000 $$20K)
DG/DD
UFA - 2
1 550 000 $1 550 000 $
G
UFA - 1

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10 mars 2020 à 14 h 15
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Tampa would be dumb to match that
10 mars 2020 à 14 h 17
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Quoting: bunzy1034
Tampa would be dumb to match that


Quoting: bunzy1034
Tampa would be dumb to match that


Well that’s why, they wouldn’t be able to afford it
10 mars 2020 à 14 h 36
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But do you really want to pay him that much ?
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10 mars 2020 à 14 h 42
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But do you really want to pay him that much ?


He’s worth at least 6 no? 7 is fair but 8 is a lot but he also could grow into it, and he’s already been incredibly good in his young career
10 mars 2020 à 14 h 44
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So SJS is going to pay Cirelli $8,454,870. I'm not saying he isn't good but his numbers might be inflated just look at his scoring logs.

Cirelli Scoring Log
10 mars 2020 à 14 h 46
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So SJS is going to pay Cirelli $8,454,870. I'm not saying he isn't good but his numbers might be inflated just look at his scoring logs.

Cirelli Scoring Log


I understand what you linked but what’s wrong exactly. Some are with top guys and some are with Johnson and palat. What stands out to me most in what you linked is EV strength. Almost all even strength
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10 mars 2020 à 15 h 6
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He’s worth at least 6 no? 7 is fair but 8 is a lot but he also could grow into it, and he’s already been incredibly good in his young career


He's been great, even very good. But you still have to consider he's playing for the best offense right now (244). Let's translate that to SJ's offense (180) for fun : 44/244 = 18,03% = 32 points for SJ. I know it does not work like this, but his stats are definitively inflated by TB's offense.

I will use Domi's contract negociation since i'm from MTL. They both have 44 points, yes domi is 3 years older but Domi had 38 in 59 3 years ago on a poor offensive team which is around the same. I would never have considered paying Domi that much at this moment and even now, he's worth something around 6-6.5 IMO
10 mars 2020 à 15 h 11
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He's been great, even very good. But you still have to consider he's playing for the best offense right now (244). Let's translate that to SJ's offense (180) for fun : 44/244 = 18,03% = 32 points for SJ. I know it does not work like this, but his stats are definitively inflated by TB's offense.

I will use Domi's contract negociation since i'm from MTL. They both have 44 points, yes domi is 3 years older but Domi had 38 in 59 3 years ago on a poor offensive team which is around the same. I would never have considered paying Domi that much at this moment and even now, he's worth something around 6-6.5 IMO


My only argument is Cirelli brings a lot more to a team then offence. He brings a lot more to a team then Domi. Point wise yes you could say no more then 6; but he’s an amazing two way Center for his age. He should only get better with experience and growth. If his output comparative is 6, I would say his defence and reliability give him a fair shot at 7 as to why I argue that I could see 8 possibly being a sound deal if he puts up 50-70 in San Jose and continues his defensive excellence
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10 mars 2020 à 15 h 17
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My only argument is Cirelli brings a lot more to a team then offence. He brings a lot more to a team then Domi. Point wise yes you could say no more then 6; but he’s an amazing two way Center for his age. He should only get better with experience and growth. If his output comparative is 6, I would say his defence and reliability give him a fair shot at 7 as to why I argue that I could see 8 possibly being a sound deal if he puts up 50-70 in San Jose and continues his defensive excellence


Cirelli brings defense. Domi brings grit and intensity. Both are non-offense quality. Both opinions are fine. My point is, Labanc is currently at 33 points and Cirelli would be around 32 (more or less). Seems a bit to give him 4 million more.
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10 mars 2020 à 15 h 28
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Cirelli brings defense. Domi brings grit and intensity. Both are non-offense quality. Both opinions are fine. My point is, Labanc is currently at 33 points and Cirelli would be around 32 (more or less). Seems a bit to give him 4 million more.


I love Labanc but I don’t think Cirelli would be a comparable for Labanc as Labanc is 1 dimensional.

If Cirelli was on the sharks and I wasn’t offer sheeting him, and Labanc had 48 points and Cirelli at 55.

Labanc - 4 years 4-4.8mil
Cirelli - 6 years 6.6 mil

Labanc - 6 years 5.5 mil
Cirelli - 8 years 7 mil
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10 mars 2020 à 15 h 39
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I understand what you linked but what’s wrong exactly. Some are with top guys and some are with Johnson and palat. What stands out to me most in what you linked is EV strength. Almost all even strength


But there is also a lot of Stamkos, Kucherov, Headman and Killorn. Tampa is very deep offensively and that depth forces teams to spread out defensively. San Jose isn't nearly as deep offensively so teams can focus defensively on one line. I just don't think he will put up the numbers he is now in SJ. Giving up a 1st, a 2nd and a 3rd so you can pay a player about $2M more than any other team would. With the amount of picks SJS has traded away I don't think they trade 3 picks for one player.
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I love Labanc but I don’t think Cirelli would be a comparable for Labanc as Labanc is 1 dimensional.

If Cirelli was on the sharks and I wasn’t offer sheeting him, and Labanc had 48 points and Cirelli at 55.

Labanc - 4 years 4-4.8mil
Cirelli - 6 years 6.6 mil

Labanc - 6 years 5.5 mil
Cirelli - 8 years 7 mil


TB can't afford to sign Cirelli this much. I'd try to negotiate a trade before OS this price.
 
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