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Marner Stinks

Créé par: AnalyticsGeek
Date de création initiale: mar 7, 2020
Publié: 7 mar 2020 à 11 h 19
Équipe: 2020-21 Maple Leafs de Toronto
Explications
I hate having to criticize my favourite player but this has got to be the worst season in Mitch Marner’s hockey career. Other than a few highlight reel plays, he’s been a total disaster. He just doesn’t look as sharp compared to previous years. Making terrible decisions with the puck as he’s always trying to make an extra play or stick handle that kills any chance to get a goal. He seems tentative away from the puck as well. I think one of the reasons why he could be struggling is cuz he’s playing with Matthews, therefore, he has less freedom to play with the puck. He’s forced to play a more simple game because Matthews is so big, strong & smooth skater who can generate his own space when in possession, so Marner is having trouble adjusting away from that super flashy & creative style. He’s more suited for centers like Tavares & Kadri. They aren’t as big, strong & smooth skaters therefore they have to do more off the puck work to get their goals. This gives Marner more freedom to create with his skillset. Even with Bozak in his rookie year & Dvorak in Juniors, that’s how he was so successful. Another reason is that Marner is not playing with any confidence at all. He’s way over his head after getting grossly overpaid in the off-season - he should’ve got the Rantanen deal at most because Rantanen is the better player anyway IMO. Honestly if the Leafs sign a good stay at home defenseman who can skate like DeMelo / Tanev, they are set to be cup contenders. But they have a black hole who is holding them back, that is Marner. A change of scenery has to happen if he doesn’t get his act together. I don’t want him to go down the same path as Galchenyuk & Yakupov.
Signatures de joueurs autonomes
RFAANSCAP HIT
Zadorov, Nikita44 000 000 $
UFAANSCAP HIT
DeMelo, Dylan45 000 000 $
Spezza, Jason11 000 000 $
Clifford, Kyle21 500 000 $
Transactions
TOR
  1. Zadorov, Nikita [Droits de RFA]
  2. Compher, J.T.
  3. 2020 1e round pick (COL)
COL
  1. Marner, Mitchell (1 643 000 $ retained)
TOR
  1. Aston-Reese, Zach
  2. 2020 3e round pick (PIT)
PIT
  1. Zadorov, Nikita
Rachats de contrats
  • Mikhail Grabovski: 0 $
Transactions impliquant une retenue de salaire
  • Mitchell Marner: 1 643 000 $ (15.07%)
  • Phil Kessel: 1 200 000 $ (15%)
ANNÉE DE REPÊCHAGERONDE 1RONDE 2RONDE 3RONDE 4RONDE 5RONDE 6RONDE 7
2020
COL
TOR
PIT
TOR
VGK
VGK
TOR
CAR
COL
SJS
STL
WPG
2021
TOR
TOR
TOR
TOR
TOR
TOR
2022
TOR
TOR
TOR
TOR
TOR
TOR
TOR
TAILLE DE LA FORMATIONPLAFOND SALARIALCAP HITEXCÉDENTS BONISESPACE SOUS LE PLAFOND SALARIAL
2386 000 000 $81 574 783 $0 $400 000 $4 425 217 $
Ailier gaucheCentreAilier droit
TOR
Hyman, Zach
2 250 000 $
AG, AD
NTC
UFA - 1
TOR
Tavares, John
11 000 000 $
C
NMC
UFA - 5
TOR
Nylander, William
6 962 366 $
AD, AG
UFA - 4
TOR
Johnsson, Andreas
3 400 000 $
AG, AD
UFA - 3
TOR
Matthews, Auston
11 640 250 $
C
UFA - 4
TOR
Kapanen, Kasperi
3 200 000 $
AD
RFA - 2
TOR
Engvall, Pierre
1 250 000 $
AG, C
RFA - 2
TOR
Spezza, Jason
1 000 000 $
C, AD
UFA - 1
COL
Compher, J.T.
3 500 000 $
AD, C
UFA - 3
TOR
Clifford, Kyle
1 500 000 $
AG
UFA - 2
TOR
Kerfoot, Alexander
3 500 000 $
C, AG
UFA - 3
PIT
Aston-Reese, Zach
1 000 000 $
AG, AD
UFA - 1
Défenseur gaucherDéfenseur droitierGardien de but
TOR
Rielly, Morgan
5 000 000 $
DG
NTC
UFA - 2
DeMelo, Dylan
5 000 000 $
DD
NTC
UFA - 4
TOR
Andersen, Frederik
5 000 000 $
G
NTC
UFA - 1
TOR
Muzzin, Jake
5 625 000 $
DG
NMC
UFA - 4
TOR
Holl, Justin
2 000 000 $
DD
NTC
UFA - 3
TOR
Campbell, Jack
1 650 000 $
G
UFA - 2
TOR
Sandin, Rasmus
894 167 $
DG
RFA - 2
TOR
Liljegren, Timothy
863 333 $
DD
RFA - 2
Laissés de côtéListe des blessés (IR)Liste des blessés à long terme (LTIR)
TOR
Korshkov, Yegor
925 000 $
AD
RFA - 1
TOR
Robertson, Nicholas
821 667 $
AG
RFA - 4
TOR
Rosén, Calle
750 000 $
DG
UFA - 1

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7 mar 2020 à 17 h 47
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Yet again, a typical Leafs fan. Overreacts to every hiccup and every small success. When things are good, they're amazing, but when things are mediocre they're hell. Habs & Leafs fans are terrible with this.
8 mar 2020 à 10 h 30
#27
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Quoting: leafs101
joke


Quoting: Boomer125
It's a pretty terrible trade, very pointless and reaks of trolling


Quoting: Jack_
He hasn't been that good but this trade is horrible. One could even say the leafs finishing talent agaisnt LA is better then this trade


Justin Bourne of Hockey Central stated that the maximum cap hit Marner should’ve got was 6 million. Since he got grossly overpaid (by around 5 million), it is harder to get higher value for him in a trade.
8 mar 2020 à 10 h 33
#28
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Quoting: We_Want_The_Cup
Yet again, a typical Leafs fan. Overreacts to every hiccup and every small success. When things are good, they're amazing, but when things are mediocre they're hell. Habs & Leafs fans are terrible with this.


No one celebrated the Leafs’ success this season. They’ve been too unconvincing all around.
8 mar 2020 à 11 h 32
#29
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Quoting: MitchMarnerElite
Justin Bourne of Hockey Central stated that the maximum cap hit Marner should’ve got was 6 million. Since he got grossly overpaid (by around 5 million), it is harder to get higher value for him in a trade.


That's not really true at all. Hes very comparable to Aho. He probably should have been paid around the low end of 9. Hes still a fantastic player who can put up 90 points and be decent defensively but a whole lot more his being expected of him. He wanted to be paid like a superstar and now hd is being judged like a superstar based off his contract. He should be judged on that level because of the tantrum he threw in the summer about being disrespected and now it's getting to him. That's why he told the other players to stay off social media, he sees the criticism. To say hes worth 5 million is laughable
8 mar 2020 à 11 h 44
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Quoting: MitchMarnerElite
Justin Bourne of Hockey Central stated that the maximum cap hit Marner should’ve got was 6 million. Since he got grossly overpaid (by around 5 million), it is harder to get higher value for him in a trade.


Ya that was also on a 2 year bridge deal not a 6 year deal
8 mar 2020 à 13 h 34
#31
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Quoting: MitchMarnerElite
No one celebrated the Leafs’ success this season. They’ve been too unconvincing all around.

That's just not true. There's been tons of claims that Leafs are elite and cup contenders at points along this season, particularly around the beginning. Just 'cause you were skeptical all year, doesn't mean the fanbase as a whole was.
8 mar 2020 à 13 h 57
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Quoting: Jack_
That's not really true at all. Hes very comparable to Aho. He probably should have been paid around the low end of 9. Hes still a fantastic player who can put up 90 points and be decent defensively but a whole lot more his being expected of him. He wanted to be paid like a superstar and now hd is being judged like a superstar based off his contract. He should be judged on that level because of the tantrum he threw in the summer about being disrespected and now it's getting to him. That's why he told the other players to stay off social media, he sees the criticism. To say hes worth 5 million is laughable


Yes Marner’s dad was very outspoken during the summer about how his son should be the captain of the team & how he should get 12 million etc. That really ruined Mitch’s image & he is now viewed negatively by all hockey people especially since he got that big contract. Marner should’ve got Rantanen’s cap hit at most. I think Rantanen is the better player anyway.
8 mar 2020 à 16 h 39
#33
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Quoting: We_Want_The_Cup
That's just not true. There's been tons of claims that Leafs are elite and cup contenders at points along this season, particularly around the beginning. Just 'cause you were skeptical all year, doesn't mean the fanbase as a whole was.


Well when they got Barrie & Ceci you knew they were toast.
21 mar 2020 à 18 h 26
#34
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Quoting: MitchMarnerElite
Justin Bourne of Hockey Central stated that the maximum cap hit Marner should’ve got was 6 million. Since he got grossly overpaid (by around 5 million), it is harder to get higher value for him in a trade.


well assuming that this is correct information, I guess Justin Bourne of hockey central isn't all that smart
 
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