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What did EDM not see in Marino

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3 mars 2020 à 21 h 11
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Why would we gamble on Jack Johnson? All of our D prospects are LD. If we were to take a bad contract on D it has to be on the right side. Also the Devils would be crazy to give draft picks right now.
3 mars 2020 à 21 h 14
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Quoting: Scoob1978
Why would we gamble on Jack Johnson? All of our D prospects are LD. If we were to take a bad contract on D it has to be on the right side. Also the Devils would be crazy to give draft picks right now.


because the Devils are bad? You get another prospect with him to play under Butcher and Smith (if he's ready). Also, you don't have to keep Johnson in the NHL, if they can get a free prospect for taking on a bad contract, why not?
3 mars 2020 à 21 h 21
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because the Devils are bad? You get another prospect with him to play under Butcher and Smith (if he's ready). Also, you don't have to keep Johnson in the NHL, if they can get a free prospect for taking on a bad contract, why not?


You don't take bad contracts just because you have the room. The Devils already have 4 guys they expect to play LD at the NHL level in Bahl, Ty Smith, Butcher, Dakota Mermis (who is surprisingly good in his own end). Based on his recent play Micro Mueller might stick around. They have gaping holes on the right side of the team in RD and RW. Especially in the pipeline. We also have to take in that we have to pay Bratt, Blackwood and Gusev soon. I don't see us taking another bad LD.
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3 mars 2020 à 21 h 21
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He did not want to play in Edmonton. What did the other teams in that area not see that they didnt want to sign him? That is the question.
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3 mars 2020 à 21 h 33
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Did dumo die?
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3 mars 2020 à 21 h 34
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because the Devils are bad? You get another prospect with him to play under Butcher and Smith (if he's ready). Also, you don't have to keep Johnson in the NHL, if they can get a free prospect for taking on a bad contract, why not?


Theirs a reason why every Pit fan is immediately flipping PO Joesph
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3 mars 2020 à 21 h 38
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Did dumo die?


briefly but he's not as good as Marino
3 mars 2020 à 21 h 40
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Theirs a reason why every Pit fan is immediately flipping PO Joesph


It's not that he's necessarily bad. He's playing top line minutes in the AHL, but he's a Dumoulin duplicate. GMJR also described Pettersson as the same thing. He wouldn't have much room to be able to grow within the team, so why not use him to get rid of the Johnson contract
3 mars 2020 à 21 h 44
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Story I heard, John Marino and his brother researched every team including depth chart, style, who would be interested and where he may have best chance to play in NHL. Chia really was the one who drafted him so with new group in charge he asked for a trade out. If anything I’d say his brother should be hired somewhere as a pro scout or front office role. Probably knows more about each team then most GMs do
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3 mars 2020 à 21 h 54
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Story I heard, John Marino and his brother researched every team including depth chart, style, who would be interested and where he may have best chance to play in NHL. Chia really was the one who drafted him so with new group in charge he asked for a trade out. If anything I’d say his brother should be hired somewhere as a pro scout or front office role. Probably knows more about each team then most GMs do

Never knew that. Cool.
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3 mars 2020 à 22 h 8
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He was #5 d-man at Harvard last year.

Wonder if Phil Kemp will be tough signing for EDM
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3 mars 2020 à 22 h 25
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what is this? Don't think Graves is moving.
3 mars 2020 à 22 h 31
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Quoting: Goilersfan1215
Story I heard, John Marino and his brother researched every team including depth chart, style, who would be interested and where he may have best chance to play in NHL. Chia really was the one who drafted him so with new group in charge he asked for a trade out. If anything I’d say his brother should be hired somewhere as a pro scout or front office role. Probably knows more about each team then most GMs do


Makes sense why the pick was conditional on him signing. That’s pretty awesome!!!
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3 mars 2020 à 23 h 42
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Story I heard, John Marino and his brother researched every team including depth chart, style, who would be interested and where he may have best chance to play in NHL. Chia really was the one who drafted him so with new group in charge he asked for a trade out. If anything I’d say his brother should be hired somewhere as a pro scout or front office role. Probably knows more about each team then most GMs do


LOL if Oilers win the cup, than his brother sure is not looking so good as a pro scout
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3 mars 2020 à 23 h 42
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Story I heard, John Marino and his brother researched every team including depth chart, style, who would be interested and where he may have best chance to play in NHL. Chia really was the one who drafted him so with new group in charge he asked for a trade out. If anything I’d say his brother should be hired somewhere as a pro scout or front office role. Probably knows more about each team then most GMs do


I heard that he wanted to sign in PIT, but I never heard anything about his brother, that's amazing lol
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3 mars 2020 à 23 h 43
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You don't take bad contracts just because you have the room. The Devils already have 4 guys they expect to play LD at the NHL level in Bahl, Ty Smith, Butcher, Dakota Mermis (who is surprisingly good in his own end). Based on his recent play Micro Mueller might stick around. They have gaping holes on the right side of the team in RD and RW. Especially in the pipeline. We also have to take in that we have to pay Bratt, Blackwood and Gusev soon. I don't see us taking another bad LD.


I mean he caaannnn play right side.... Now just don't expect him to do it well at all.... (Also loving all the former yotes on that defense)
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3 mars 2020 à 23 h 43
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He was #5 d-man at Harvard last year.

Wonder if Phil Kemp will be tough signing for EDM


I am Oilers all the way and most teams dont know about Logan Day, he is a good one too.
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He did not want to play in Edmonton. What did the other teams in that area not see that they didnt want to sign him? That is the question.


That's not quite right. Marino and other such as Fox likely told ALL NHL teams in their draft year they would going the NCAA graduation route, partly because they would be UFAs upon graduation.
Oilers just took a 6th round gamble hoping Marino would come out early . So it wasn't so much Marino didn't want Edmonton as much he want a choice as a UFA, as did Vesey and Fox.
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what is this? Don't think Graves is moving.


It depends on who Colorado prefers. If Byram comes up next year they have Girard, Byram, Graves, Cole, Zadorov. All of them can play in a top 4, but there's only 3 spots for 5 guys
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4 mars 2020 à 1 h 9
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That's not quite right. Marino and other such as Fox likely told ALL NHL teams in their draft year they would going the NCAA graduation route, partly because they would be UFAs upon graduation.
Oilers just took a 6th round gamble hoping Marino would come out early . So it wasn't so much Marino didn't want Edmonton as much he want a choice as a UFA, as did Vesey and Fox.


Marino is not a UFA
4 mars 2020 à 3 h 20
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LOL if Oilers win the cup, than his brother sure is not looking so good as a pro scout


Yeah I’d love that, but it’s not like he’s playing with a bunch of scrubs either
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the ability to sign him?

I mean really that's what it comes down to.
4 mars 2020 à 7 h 16
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Marino is not a UFA


He would have been by August 15th 2019, if he hadn't signed. That's why the Oilers had no leverage and had to trade him for whatever they could get.
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Marino is not a UFA


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Marino is not a UFA


He would have been last summer, so the Oilers had a one in thirty one chance to sign him. Remember what Vesey did when he had the UFA after graduating university.
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POJ as a throwaway to get rid of Johnson is dumb. Just keep Johnson as third pairing LD, his cap hit is manageable.
 
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