Theyre in the same boat as you. You take Cernak away and they have no one on their team to play the right side.

Yeah I saw that, This was assuming they keep Shattenkirk around and Foote takes a step into the NHL

Do you think Cernak is the least likely to move out of him Sergachev and Cirelli?

I think Shattenkirk is going to get priced out of Tamapa they cant afford him

At best looks like this:
Hedman-Cernak
Sergachev-Top 4D man
McDonagh-Foote

At worst looks like this:

Hedman-Cernak
McDonagh-Foote
Sergachev-Coburn

I didn't realize you made that recent Tampa thread, I was giving the Stetcher Money to Shatty assuming he wants to stay in TB, I think hes a great fit for the second pair in tampa

Tampa fan here. Would rather have a pick than a forward, even if he's supposed to be a good prospect

What would the pick cost be? Do you think Cernak is the least likely to move out of him Sergachev and Cirelli?

Depending on the pick, I'd consider it. Cernak would be a solid addition for us. MDZ has been awful.

Cernak for us is like Manson for . You see where i'm going with this? He stays and we'll resign him to a low'ish caphit.(Most likelely scenario)
Probably less than 4 million $ /year though
It can be a bridge as well.

Shatty i agree is a super good fit for both parties.
It would be best if he stays, but i'm afraid some other GM will ofer him a 3 million $ + contract @ 3 years, which we can't match, unless we somehow trade 4-5 guys away...(Coburn/Paquette/Killorn/Gourde or more...)

I think Foote is not ready based on his AHL performance. (i hope i'm wrong)
I know +- is not the perfect indicator to evaluate a player's performance, but that's the best thing i got atm...
Cernak was +30, the year before we called him up from AHL = super solid rock on the backend --> translated into NHL in 1st year = super solid ---> 2nd year = slump/down year(but still acceptable)

Foote is -6 this year = no improvements in points/defensive game it looks like unfortunately... we really care right now about defense. The old 24/7 tampa offense is gone...(sometimes it comes back for a couple of games)

I will illusrate it with couple of pictures the diff between 2018/2019 vs 2019/2020:

2018/2019:


Vs.

2019/2020:

Yeah, I'm just a big fan of his and would love to see him in SoCal, this was done assuming Shatty stays and Foote can take that step forward

Do you think Cernak is the least likely to move out of him Sergachev and Cirelli? Say if one of them has to go

I think Cernak is a prime candidate for an offer sheet from a team like us

A 2nd and a 3rd

All 3 are staying... it's not rocket science... there is no answer to that question...

You could ask the same for Byram or Makar from Col leaving in future... no point to this...
If anybody of these types of guys gets traded, you can't ever predict that... like Killorn you can predict... or even guys with NTC... but RFA's with good performance usually gets resigned...
If there is low/no cap space.. then for bridge contract/1 year deal etc...
Tampa likes Serg/Cirelli/Cernak same way... they are not expendable assets for unknown return. And all 3 has even more potential in future years. All under 25 years...


Noone is offersheeting any under 5 million players(especially from a lottery team--> the factor of likeliness is like out of world, 10 times less likely than other mediocre teams).
He had a down year btw, like Manson... so it's even more unlikely for this particular player...

I want to help you:
Learn it now, or you will be disappointed in every offseason in the near future.(at least until new CBA)
Hint: offersheets are a myth.

If you learn these couple of words. You will be more successful at creating possible future team evaluations/ACGM's

The biggest problems with offersheets are: The offersheeted player says no thanks.
In case of Cernak noone is offering him 8.x millions... which he would probably accept... That money is huge compared to the 3-4 million $ we possibly offering him in the offseason...
Even he can't refuse it most likely, but that's not happening. He is not on that level to get 8.x million $ offer...

So let me illustrate you with a quick example for Cernak, in case if he wants to accept it.(for some unknown reason- like he hates to play in tampa.. idk i cant find a good reason.. so you have to find one )

$4,227,438 - $6,341,152
1 First Round Pick
1 Third Round Pick

Okay so you say Anaheim is offering him max contract: 6.3 million $ for max years possible.
He accepts the offersheet(see above the reason LUL).

In this case:
TBL probably says: Thanks for the possible top5 unprotected lottery pick and also the freebie the 3rd rounder. ( where we can sometimes find gems).
So we let Cernak go and we trade for a little worse player for much cheaper... but the future will be brighter for the tampa D.

Other scenario we invest with the unprotected 1st round lottery pick and offer it for some serious D-man with good contract.Who is better than Cernak = win for .
Top10 lottery picks = really huge value... you can get a player like top tier Top3-Top4D, if additional assets even a Top2D might be possible.

Oh now you probably say, no " i meant for 4.2 million $ offersheet. In that case it's an easy match and an extended summer holiday on Hawaii for the GM.(1 less troube to deal with for months).Just ask the Carolina GM about the Aho offersheet. It was the easiest decision of his life...

I hope you can see now, why these things will not happen. And finally u forget about this "myth". Hopefully together with other people...
Not worth the time to deal with these "scenarios" in any ACGM topic...

You're not the only one who doesn't think through this... Last time i heard in one of these topics... Yzerman is offersheeting Tampa last year for Sergachev... LUL
For sure he will LUL

Yes, with a new CBA soon'ish... things might get different in the future, but the current offersheet system is flawed/bad.
It's working good in NHL EA games hahaaa...(that game is exploitable, unlike real life GM's).
Game AI GM's Vs real life GM's = infinite difference

Getting mad at speculation on a website that is built on it

Offer sheets are not a myth, and the Ducks know that first hand.

A team could offer Cernak 4.2x4 and Tampa has a really hard time matching that without making other moves and worrying about Cirelli or Sergachev offer sheets

A second in 2021 is a price the Ducks or any team would easily pay for Cernak imo, his trade value isnt much more than that so Tampa may take the easy way out and take the second

Nobody knows if Cernak, or any other player would sign an offersheet unless you are that player and/or his agent, saying anything different is ridiculous, interviews and quotes could all be smokescreens and again this is a speculative website by nature

The Lightning are facing a massive cap crunch and this offseason will be very tough, it is not a sure thing Tampa can keep all 3 of Cirelli Sergachev and Cernak and you're Naive if you believe its a forgone conclusion. Sure they may keep all 3 but there is a very real possibility they lose at least one of them whether thats to trade or an offersheet, Bergevin making Aho one last offseason may encourage more this offseason, no one knows if an offersheet will be made and/or accepted.

The fun of ACGM is speculation of scenarios and this is an example of this, If cap increases by 3M this season, Tampa has 8.3M in cap room with 15 players under contract. 5-8 players needed to be signed and you are facing the possibility of losing good young players since Cernak, Sergachev, and Cirelli should all easily break 2.5 each

You're not convincable... i'm done here... wasting my time... enjoy your summer offersheets: all of them
2nd round pick suggestion is rofl... good luck with that... top4D 2nd round lmao.... you can't be saved...

i tried... i failed.... epic fail on my part... i admit... sucks to be me...

I'm not hating, im not mad at you, peace...

I'm just bored from all these topics. And i can't resist to convert 1 guy/week from the "dark" side to the "bright" side.
I expect fun/realistic trades here or fun conversations, but it's not fun, when u see NHL '20 lvl speculations about things which has the same likelihood as Tampa winning the draft lottery.

Zero/Nada/0.

Sergachev = offersheeted
Cirelli = offersheeted
Kucherov = offersheeted
Vasilevski = offersheeted
Laine = offersheeted
Point = offersheeted
Marner = offersheeted

Zzz...zzZ

Newest member of the club = Cernak = offersheeted
great suggestion = fun-----------right? no LUL


BTW last year's Aho "i need a center" try = not offersheet...
That was a desperate and laughable attempt from an unsuccesful(not making playoffs for ages) GM trying to fill the Nr #1 center role, where he failed super hard in every draft to fix that issue in the last several years.
His reason was for offersheet: they might not pay him, the owner doesn't have cash. LUL

Result = every expert in every site and on TV... and every other GM... laughed at him... also rip any future impact trades with Carolina in next few years...

Great job: Marc "pro offersheeter" Bergevin... soon to be lottery picks (if said "try" gone through by miracle). I guess u wanna follow him. Good luck, i'm out.

Pretty much sums you up in this case, this ACGM was about trading for Cernak not offersheets

Done!



Couldn't you tell from the essays being written that this guy has too much time on their hands.

Added him to the ignore list

Just following up on this. If it meant keeping his contract price down, I would prefer to pay the additional 3rd to acquire Cernak instead of offersheeting him. I don't think he'll get $4.2M per, especially not from TB. That's quite a high price for me.

TB is going to have make some moves. Cirelli, Serg and Cernak all looking at significant raises. $7M in cap space not enough to get it done IMO.

Range is going to be 84-88.2M next year, might not matter depending how high it goes

Might be ok at $88.2M. That gives them $12M. I doubt it goes that high.