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Big update by Bergevin

Créé par: GMs
Date de création initiale: fév 29, 2020
Publié: 29 fév 2020 à 10 h 35
Équipe: 2020-21 Canadiens de Montréal
Explications
Kotkaniemi --> MTL
Romanov --> MTL

Poehling --> Laval

Caufield --> NCAA maybe Laval
Harris --> maybe turning pro
Norlinder --> SHL

Ylonen --> Laval

Kovy --> MTL ( try on July 1st )

Laval :

Hudon-Poehling-Belzile
Teasdale-Vejdemo-Ylonen
RHP-Hillis-Okulov
Jevpalovs-Pezzetta-Alain

Ouellet-Fleury
Leskinen-Juulsen
Alzner-Brook

Primeau
McNiven
Signatures de joueurs autonomes
LISTE DE RÉSERVEANSCAP HIT
Romanov, Alexander3925 000 $
Ylönen, Jesse3894 000 $
Hillis, Cameron3795 000 $
Harvey-Pinard, Rafaël3771 666 $
RFAANSCAP HIT
Domi, Max65 750 000 $
Mete, Victor31 750 000 $
Evans, Jake1925 000 $
Juulsen, Noah2894 000 $
Vejdemo, Lukas2894 000 $
Hudon, Charles1800 000 $
Ouellet, Xavier1800 000 $
McNiven, Michael2700 000 $
UFAANSCAP HIT
Kovalchuk, Ilya13 500 000 $
Greiss, Thomas13 000 000 $
Belzile, Alex1800 000 $
CRÉÉANSCAP HIT
Marchenko, Alexei12 750 000 $
Okulov, Konstantin1925 000 $
ANNÉE DE REPÊCHAGERONDE 1RONDE 2RONDE 3RONDE 4RONDE 5RONDE 6RONDE 7
2020
MTL
MTL
CHI
STL
MTL
WSH
MTL
ANA
WPG
MTL
FLA
MTL
CHI
OTT
2021
MTL
MTL
MTL
CHI
MTL
VGK
MTL
OTT
PHI
MTL
2022
MTL
MTL
MTL
MTL
MTL
MTL
MTL
TAILLE DE LA FORMATIONPLAFOND SALARIALCAP HITEXCÉDENTS BONISESPACE SOUS LE PLAFOND SALARIAL
2383 500 000 $77 278 809 $0 $3 137 500 $6 221 191 $
Ailier gaucheCentreAilier droit
MTL
Tatar, Tomas
4 800 000 $
AG, AD
UFA - 1
MTL
Danault, Phillip
3 083 333 $
C
UFA - 1
MTL
Gallagher, Brendan
3 750 000 $
AD
NMC
UFA - 1
MTL
Domi, Max
5 750 000 $
C, AG
UFA - 2
MTL
Kotkaniemi, Jesperi
925 000 $
C, AG
RFA - 1
MTL
Drouin, Jonathan
5 500 000 $
AG
UFA - 3
Kovalchuk, Ilya
3 500 000 $
AG, AD
UFA
MTL
Suzuki, Nick
863 333 $
C, AD
RFA - 2
MTL
Armia, Joel
2 600 000 $
AD
UFA - 1
MTL
Lehkonen, Artturi
2 400 000 $
AG, AD
RFA - 1
MTL
Evans, Jake
925 000 $
C, AD
RFA - 2
MTL
Byron, Paul
3 400 000 $
AG, AD
UFA - 3
Défenseur gaucherDéfenseur droitierGardien de but
MTL
Chiarot, Ben
3 500 000 $
DG
NTC
UFA - 2
MTL
Weber, Shea
7 857 143 $
DD
UFA - 6
MTL
Price, Carey
10 500 000 $
G
NMC
UFA - 6
MTL
Mete, Victor
1 750 000 $
DG/DD
RFA - 1
MTL
Petry, Jeff
5 500 000 $
DD
NMC NTC
UFA - 1
Greiss, Thomas
3 000 000 $
G
UFA - 2
MTL
Romanov, Alexander
925 000 $
DG/DD
RFA - 2
Marchenko, Alexei
2 750 000 $
Laissés de côtéListe des blessés (IR)Liste des blessés à long terme (LTIR)
MTL
Kulak, Brett
1 850 000 $
DG
UFA - 2
MTL
Weal, Jordan
1 400 000 $
C, AD, AG
UFA - 1
MTL
Lindgren, Charlie
750 000 $
G
UFA - 1

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29 fév 2020 à 10 h 54
#1
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Rather try Halak again than Greiss; Greiss probably wants more than $3 333 333
Domi at 6 years is more like 6.125M
Mete at 3 years is more like 2.5M

Tatar - Danault - Gallagher
Drouin - Suzuki - Armia
Lehkonen - Kotkaniemi - Evans
Byron - Domi - Weal

Domi's line and Kotkaniemi's line both get 3rd line minutes; I just put Domi's line lower because it has 2 4th liners and KK's line has one 4th liner (Evans)
Domi's line is like that because that is our current 3rd line and is playing well
Same for 2nd, 1st lines
29 fév 2020 à 11 h 04
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Quoting: MaxDomi13
Rather try Halak again than Greiss; Greiss probably wants more than $3 333 333
Domi at 6 years is more like 6.125M
Mete at 3 years is more like 2.5M

Tatar - Danault - Gallagher
Drouin - Suzuki - Armia
Lehkonen - Kotkaniemi - Evans
Byron - Domi - Weal

Domi's line and Kotkaniemi's line both get 3rd line minutes; I just put Domi's line lower because it has 2 4th liners and KK's line has one 4th liner (Evans)
Domi's line is like that because that is our current 3rd line and is playing well
Same for 2nd, 1st lines


Delete your comment you're drunk
29 fév 2020 à 11 h 04
#3
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Quoting: GMs
Delete your comment you're drunk


Greiss is getting more than 333333edit:3
29 fév 2020 à 11 h 10
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Quoting: MaxDomi13
Greiss is getting more than 333333edit:3


Alright make it 4.5M if you want or Halak I dont care, we need a solid back-up
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29 fév 2020 à 11 h 13
#5
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Alright make it 4.5M if you want or Halak I dont care, we need a solid back-up


I agree with you for that we def need a backup
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29 fév 2020 à 11 h 42
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Question for you guys @MaxDomi13 @GMs

Assuming we have the same level of injuries this year and next year, why will this team make the playoffs and different than this years Habs?
29 fév 2020 à 13 h 22
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Quoting: F50marco
Question for you guys @MaxDomi13 @GMs

Assuming we have the same level of injuries this year and next year, why will this team make the playoffs and different than this years Habs?


if they get the same injuries than this year, they'll miss the playoffs again. I got your point, but we wont be a "playoffs" team for another 1-2 year
29 fév 2020 à 14 h 53
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Quoting: GMs
if they get the same injuries than this year, they'll miss the playoffs again. I got your point, but we wont be a "playoffs" team for another 1-2 year


If this is the case - it should be crystal clear. This team is not good enough. Every single playoff team has injuries. If injuries happen, your supposed to be able to win enough to still make it. Habs didn't even lose their best players to injury like Price, Tatar or Gallagher or Petry etc....Weber for just a couple games...... and they still missed the playoffs.

Its not the PP, the injuries, inconsistency, yada yada yada. The Habs are just not very good. This team needs to retool the right way. Not half a** it. (Not a full rebuild just a real retool)
29 fév 2020 à 14 h 59
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Quoting: F50marco
If this is the case - it should be crystal clear. This team is not good enough. Every single playoff team has injuries. If injuries happen, your supposed to be able to win enough to still make it. Habs didn't even lose their best players to injury like Price, Tatar or Gallagher or Petry etc....Weber for just a couple games...... and they still missed the playoffs.

Its not the PP, the injuries, inconsistency, yada yada yada. The Habs are just not very good. This team needs to retool the right way. Not half a** it. (Not a full rebuild just a real retool)


I get it but it wont happen, Price Weber Petry Gallagher are here to stay and maybe one of Danault or Tatar will stay too. They will add Romanov Caufield Poehling Fleury Ylonen slowly and try to win in 3-4 years
29 fév 2020 à 15 h 01
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I get it but it wont happen, Price Weber Petry Gallagher are here to stay and maybe one of Danault or Tatar will stay too. They will add Romanov Caufield Poehling Fleury Ylonen slowly and try to win in 3-4 years


In 3-4 years everyone one of Price Weber Petry Gallagher Danault Tatar.....etc will be over 31 years old........ Some of those guys will be late 30's.........

This is why MB's plan is flawed. He is assuming they stay where they are now.
29 fév 2020 à 15 h 06
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Quoting: F50marco
In 3-4 years everyone one of Price Weber Petry Gallagher Danault Tatar.....etc will be over 31 years old........ Some of those guys will be late 30's.........

This is why MB's plan is flawed. He is assuming they stay where they are now.


Petry will be the #1 in 2-3 years, Weber on the 2nd pairing
He expect Danault-Gallagher to be on the 3rd line in 3-4 years

But the prospect/young players really need to step up ( Suzuki Kotkaniemi Drouin Poehling Fleury Mete Romanov ) if they dont turned out like he believes they will, we are screw another 10 years
I trust him with the new core of Suzuki Caufield KK Ylonen Fleury Poehling Primeau etc
29 fév 2020 à 15 h 43
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Petry will be the #1 in 2-3 years, Weber on the 2nd pairing
He expect Danault-Gallagher to be on the 3rd line in 3-4 years

But the prospect/young players really need to step up ( Suzuki Kotkaniemi Drouin Poehling Fleury Mete Romanov ) if they dont turned out like he believes they will, we are screw another 10 years
I trust him with the new core of Suzuki Caufield KK Ylonen Fleury Poehling Primeau etc


Petry in 3 years: 35 years old
Weber in 3 years: 38 hears old
Price in 3 years: 36 years old.
Tatar: ......31
Gallagher: .......30

That is a terrible plan IMO.
29 fév 2020 à 16 h 35
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Quoting: F50marco
Petry in 3 years: 35 years old
Weber in 3 years: 38 hears old
Price in 3 years: 36 years old.
Tatar: ......31
Gallagher: .......30

That is a terrible plan IMO.


but that's the plan … Petry is just getting better and better, Weber might decline drastically, but I'm not worried with Petry
29 fév 2020 à 16 h 55
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but that's the plan … Petry is just getting better and better, Weber might decline drastically, but I'm not worried with Petry


Sure I guess. Then again, go look at the last 15 stanley cup winners and see how old the D core was on average....... teams win cups on their best players being from 20-29. 30+ players need to be your depth guys. Not the ones to rely on.
29 fév 2020 à 17 h 19
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Quoting: F50marco
Question for you guys @MaxDomi13 @GMs

Assuming we have the same level of injuries this year and next year, why will this team make the playoffs and different than this years Habs?


If we get the same amount of injuries we will be trading for Scandella again and trade for Kovalchuk lol
And unfortunately Caufield isn't coming to MTL or LAV in 2020-2021
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29 fév 2020 à 17 h 44
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Sure I guess. Then again, go look at the last 15 stanley cup winners and see how old the D core was on average....... teams win cups on their best players being from 20-29. 30+ players need to be your depth guys. Not the ones to rely on.


I know, but Molson want to keep the team "competitive", we might get a full rebuilt if Bergevin reset doesn't work
"laissons la chance au coureur" give a chance at Marc plan
1 mar 2020 à 13 h 57
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Do you think ikonen and McShane for Alex barre-boulet and a 2nd 2021 is this good for MTL?
1 mar 2020 à 14 h 06
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Do you think ikonen and McShane for Alex barre-boulet and a 2nd 2021 is this good for MTL?


Bergevin doesn't want Barre-boulet, the guy isn't a exemple outside the ice. Doing drugs, party, etc. They signed Alain instead
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