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Créé par: Arom5477
Équipe: 2020-21 Penguins de Pittsburgh
Date de création initiale: 28 févr. 2020
Publié: 28 févr. 2020
Mode - plafond salarial: Basique
Description
Here's how I went about these possibilities:

1.) The trade MUST be with a Western Conference team. GMJR has typically only made bigger trades with the West (Brassard/McCann-Bjugstad deals aside).
2.) The return must include some combination of the following:
a.) A Prospect (1-2 years away) + Bottom Six player (with no real top 6 potential) + 1st round pick
b.) NHL Ready prospect + 1st round pick
c.) NHL Middle Six forward + 2nd round pick + PIT Cap Relief
d.) Top 6 forward + 2nd round pick
3.) Team must have a true need for a franchise goalie.


***I will try my best to do a a-d.) case for each prospective team***
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PIT
    Jakob Pelletier
    Sam Bennett
    1st
    CGY
      Matt Murray
      2.
      PIT
        Alexander Yelesin
        1st
        CGY
          Matt Murray
          3.
          PIT
            Andrew Mangiapane
            2nd round pick
            CGY
              Matt Murray
              Jack Johnson
              4.
              PIT
                John Quenneville
                Drake Caggiula
                1st
                CHI
                  Matt Murray
                  5.
                  PIT
                    Dylan Sikura
                    1st
                    CHI
                      Matt Murray
                      6.
                      PIT
                        Brandon Saad
                        2nd
                        2nd
                        CHI
                          Matt Murray
                          Nick Bjugstad
                          7.
                          PIT
                            Alex DeBrincat
                            2nd
                            CHI
                              Matt Murray
                              8.
                              PIT
                                Vladislav Kaminev
                                Matt Calvert
                                1st
                                COL
                                  Matt Murray
                                  9.
                                  PIT
                                    Connor Timmons
                                    1st
                                    3rd
                                    COL
                                      Matt Murray
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                                      PIT
                                        Joonas Donskoi
                                        2nd
                                        COL
                                          Matt Murray
                                          Jack Johnson or Nick Bjugstad
                                          11.
                                          PIT
                                            Luke Kunin
                                            Marcus Foligno
                                            1st
                                            MIN
                                              Matt Murray
                                              12.
                                              PIT
                                                Matthew Boldy
                                                1st
                                                MIN
                                                  Matt Murray
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                                                  PIT
                                                    Marcus Foligno
                                                    2nd round pick
                                                    MIN
                                                      Matt Murray
                                                      Jack Johnson or Nick Bjugstad
                                                      14.
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                                                        Kevin Fiala
                                                        2nd
                                                        MIN
                                                          Matt Murray
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                                                            Lukas Radil
                                                            Marcus Sorensen
                                                            1st
                                                            SJS
                                                              Matt Murray
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                                                                Johnathon Dahlen
                                                                1st
                                                                SJS
                                                                  Matt Murray
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                                                                    Kevin Leblanc
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                                                                    SJS
                                                                      Matt Murray
                                                                      Nick Bjugstad or Jack Johnson
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                                                                        Timo Meier or Tomas Hertl
                                                                        2nd
                                                                        SJS
                                                                          Matt Murray
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                                                                          28 févr. 2020 à 15 h 52
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                                                                          So I read your description and briefly checked some of the trades. You vastly overrate what a good but not superstar starting goalie is likely to get on the trade market.

                                                                          Likely a late first and depth prospect max
                                                                          28 févr. 2020 à 15 h 53
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                                                                          You are not getting a guy like Meir/Hertl/DeBrincat, let alone having them add to the package.

                                                                          You may trade Murray as part of a package for one of those guys though.
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                                                                          28 févr. 2020 à 15 h 55
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                                                                          Murray for Caggiula and a 2nd.
                                                                          28 févr. 2020 à 16 h 11
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                                                                          Quoting: Petrock83
                                                                          Murray for Caggiula and a 2nd.


                                                                          Pittsburgh may let CHI borrow Murray for 1 game with that offer
                                                                          28 févr. 2020 à 16 h 21
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                                                                          2 thing...Murray to the Avs is not a possibility, they arent looking for a goalie and the second, all those trade proposals with them, they are all easy flat out No from them
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                                                                          28 févr. 2020 à 16 h 22
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                                                                          Quoting: BCAPP
                                                                          You are not getting a guy like Meir/Hertl/DeBrincat, let alone having them add to the package.

                                                                          You may trade Murray as part of a package for one of those guys though.


                                                                          Agreed. ADB, Hertl, or Meier would require Kings ransoms alone. Like Murray, 1st, and prospect
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                                                                          28 févr. 2020 à 16 h 29
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                                                                          Can someone explain why Bjugstad is considered a cap dump? Id say he is a top 6f on the pens easily, is that incorrect?
                                                                          28 févr. 2020 à 16 h 35
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                                                                          Quoting: EGM
                                                                          Can someone explain why Bjugstad is considered a cap dump? Id say he is a top 6f on the pens easily, is that incorrect?


                                                                          He has no real place in the lineup anymore.
                                                                          28 févr. 2020 à 16 h 39
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                                                                          All of these are laughable. Sharks give you Labanc and a second for Murray and terrible cap dumps? Id only drop a second straight up for him
                                                                          28 févr. 2020 à 16 h 39
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                                                                          Quoting: Arom5477
                                                                          He has no real place in the lineup anymore.


                                                                          Would definitely prefer pens try to trade Hornqvist if they could, they would have to give up a lot more to move him but it would make a lot more sense.
                                                                          28 févr. 2020 à 16 h 42
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                                                                          Flames probably do the Yelesin+1st in a heartbeat.

                                                                          Though it would all depend on the kind of contract/role Murray is looking for from his next contract. Here in YYC he'd definitely be part of a 1/1A goalie tandem with Rittich.
                                                                          28 févr. 2020 à 17 h 11
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                                                                          Philipp Grubauer who was in largely the same position, with brooks orpik (a cap dump similar to Bjugstad) went to the Avs for a 2nd. You arent getting Saad and 2 seconds for the same thing but a lesser goalie
                                                                          28 févr. 2020 à 17 h 38
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                                                                          Thanks needed a good laugh You're totally delusional if you honestly think that Matt Murrays gets any of those returns.
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                                                                          28 févr. 2020 à 17 h 41
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                                                                          Funny how you value Donskoi at the same level as Debrincat based on the returns...
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                                                                          28 févr. 2020 à 18 h 9
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                                                                          Quoting: BurgerBoss
                                                                          Funny how you value Donskoi at the same level as Debrincat based on the returns...


                                                                          It's worse. Donskoi has a cap dump included along with Murray, so he values Donskoi above Debrincat.

                                                                          Or he actually thinks Jack Johnson adds value, which is somehow funnier than all these trades.
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                                                                          28 févr. 2020 à 18 h 47
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                                                                          Quoting: JayTea
                                                                          It's worse. Donskoi has a cap dump included along with Murray, so he values Donskoi above Debrincat.

                                                                          Or he actually thinks Jack Johnson adds value, which is somehow funnier than all these trades.


                                                                          Lmao
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                                                                          Quoting: SlickWilly
                                                                          Philipp Grubauer who was in largely the same position, with brooks orpik (a cap dump similar to Bjugstad) went to the Avs for a 2nd. You arent getting Saad and 2 seconds for the same thing but a lesser goalie


                                                                          His value was suppressed for taking a cap dump with him.

                                                                          Also Murray is weird to value as he backstopped two cups and now has regressed some...
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                                                                          28 févr. 2020 à 19 h 28
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                                                                          I think youre overvaluing Murray (by a lot)
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                                                                          28 févr. 2020 à 19 h 29
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                                                                          Colorado isnt looking for a goalie, and if they were looking to upgrade they'd want an upgrade
                                                                          28 févr. 2020 à 19 h 41
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                                                                          Quoting: BCAPP
                                                                          His value was suppressed for taking a cap dump with him.

                                                                          Also Murray is weird to value as he backstopped two cups and now has regressed some...


                                                                          Yes and Murrays value would be surpressed by taking Bjugstad as well. I wouldnt trade Saad for Murray straight up, and im not adding 2 seconds for bjugstad
                                                                          28 févr. 2020 à 20 h 9
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                                                                          Murray to the Sharks or Avalanche seems plausible. Sharks return would likely include Leblanc. Don’t know if Sharks give up much more though. Avs deal likely includes Donskoi or Compher and a pick. Lots of idiotic comments on this though. Just shows how little people know about hockey on this site. Pretty comical honestly.
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                                                                          Quoting: SlickWilly
                                                                          Yes and Murrays value would be surpressed by taking Bjugstad as well. I wouldnt trade Saad for Murray straight up, and im not adding 2 seconds for bjugstad


                                                                          A starting goalie is way more important than a second line winger.

                                                                          I though op was exaggerating Murray's worth you are way exaggerating Saad's worth. He's never had more than 53 points. He's a fine player but he's not particularly special
                                                                          28 févr. 2020 à 21 h 47
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                                                                          Quoting: EGM
                                                                          Can someone explain why Bjugstad is considered a cap dump? Id say he is a top 6f on the pens easily, is that incorrect?


                                                                          No he doesn’t even fit into the top 9 on the pens anymore.
                                                                          28 févr. 2020 à 21 h 49
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                                                                          Quoting: EGM
                                                                          Would definitely prefer pens try to trade Hornqvist if they could, they would have to give up a lot more to move him but it would make a lot more sense.


                                                                          No it wouldn’t. Hornqvist has been good this year. To a lot of teams he has value. I don’t think Bjugstad has much value right now due to his injury. Bjugstad needs to comeback in the next few games, have a strong end to the season and a strong playoffs and he could probably get a somewhat decent return in the offseason
                                                                          28 févr. 2020 à 23 h 3
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                                                                          Quoting: BCAPP
                                                                          A starting goalie is way more important than a second line winger.

                                                                          I though op was exaggerating Murray's worth you are way exaggerating Saad's worth. He's never had more than 53 points. He's a fine player but he's not particularly special


                                                                          yeah and Murray has never carried his own team. Only time they got wins was with fleury as a 1a/1b situation. He isnt even the 1st string on the Pens anymore. Jarry has outperformed him all season and you expect to get a lot in return. Its not gonna happen
                                                                           
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