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Brodin Trade idea

Créé par: Subbanator7667
Date de création initiale: fév 27, 2020
Publié: Feb 27 at 8:03 pm
Équipe: 2019-20 Wild du Minnesota
Explications
Happens at the draft
Transactions
MIN
  1. Mete, Victor
  2. Poehling, Ryan
  3. 2020 2e round pick (CHI)
Détails additionnels:
Which ever is the earliest 2nd round pick
MTL
  1. Brodin, Jonas
Rachats de contrats
  • Tyler Ennis: 1 216 667 $
ANNÉE DE REPÊCHAGERONDE 1RONDE 2RONDE 3RONDE 4RONDE 5RONDE 6RONDE 7
2020
MIN
PIT
MIN
CHI
MIN
MIN
MIN
MIN
2021
MIN
MIN
MIN
MIN
MIN
MIN
MIN
2022
MIN
MIN
MIN
MIN
MIN
MIN
MIN
TAILLE DE LA FORMATIONPLAFOND SALARIALCAP HITEXCÉDENTS BONISESPACE SOUS LE PLAFOND SALARIAL
2481 500 000 $75 326 921 $0 $1 950 000 $6 173 079 $
Ailier gaucheCentreAilier droit
MIN
Parise, Zach
7 538 461 $
AG
NMC
UFA - 6
MIN
Koivu, Mikko
5 500 000 $
C
NMC
UFA - 1
MIN
Zuccarello, Mats
6 000 000 $
AD
NMC
UFA - 5
MIN
Galchenyuk, Alex
4 900 000 $
AG, C, AD
UFA - 1
MIN
Rask, Victor
4 000 000 $
C
UFA - 3
MIN
Donato, Ryan
1 900 000 $
AD, AG, C
RFA - 2
MIN
Fiala, Kevin
3 000 000 $
AG
RFA - 2
MIN
Staal, Eric
3 250 000 $
C
NTC
UFA - 2
MIN
Kunin, Luke
925 000 $
AD, C
RFA - 1
MIN
Foligno, Marcus
2 875 000 $
AG, AD
UFA - 2
MIN
Eriksson Ek, Joel
1 487 500 $
C
RFA - 2
MIN
Hartman, Ryan
1 900 000 $
AG, AD
RFA - 2
MIN
Greenway, Jordan
916 666 $
AG
RFA - 1
MTL
Poehling, Ryan
925 000 $
C, AG
RFA - 2
MIN
Mayhew, Gerald
700 000 $
C, AD
UFA - 2
Défenseur gaucherDéfenseur droitierGardien de but
MIN
Suter, Ryan
7 538 461 $
DG
NMC
UFA - 6
MIN
Dumba, Matt
6 000 000 $
DD
UFA - 4
MIN
Dubnyk, Devan
4 333 333 $
G
NTC
UFA - 2
MTL
Mete, Victor
748 333 $
DG
RFA - 1
MIN
Spurgeon, Jared
5 187 500 $
DD
NMC
UFA - 1
MIN
Stalock, Alex
785 000 $
G
UFA - 3
MIN
Soucy, Carson
750 000 $
D
UFA - 1
MIN
Pateryn, Greg
2 250 000 $
DD
UFA - 2
MIN
Hunt, Brad
700 000 $
DD
UFA - 2

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27 fév à 20 h 07
#1
Rejoint: jan 2020
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Wild would only be interested in Domi
TanSor a aimé ceci.
27 fév à 20 h 09
#2
Wqrrior
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Quoting: BLIvingston33
Wild would only be interested in Domi


Make that 2nd a 1st and they might bite.
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27 fév à 20 h 21
#3
Billy739
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i wouldnt give up anything but two 2nd's
no prospects , no players because he's not worth it which is why he's still in MIN

Dumba i'd trade the same package for if you gave us Khovanov
otherwise pass
27 fév à 20 h 28
#4
Billy739
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Quoting: BLIvingston33
Wild would only be interested in Domi


You're joking right?

A Minnisota native born , raised and developed in MIN exclusively before leaving for Laval this year . . . .
Wild's Fanbase is one of the more diehard expansion base's in the NHL and they'd covet cheering a local guy

maybe they dont like the package or something but Zero chance they'd turn their nose up to Poehling
its about as unlike as MTL getting #1OA and snubbing Lefreniere for Raymond
27 fév à 20 h 29
#5
Rejoint: jui 2016
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Brodin could get you more.
Wqrrior et TanSor a aimé ceci.
27 fév à 20 h 34
#6
Wqrrior
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Quoting: ClockReads2113
Brodin could get you more.


I would agree if he was moved now, but now they have to wait until the offseason, where he only has one year. This package is fair value given the reduced amount of games. A deadline package would yield more.
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27 fév à 20 h 34
#7
Billy739
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Quoting: Wqrrior
MTL fans are clueless. Ignore this assessment.


Reported

Prejudice is never ok
27 fév à 20 h 45
#8
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Quoting: Wqrrior
MTL fans are clueless. Ignore this assessment.


@Billy739 has a giant Brodin poster hanging up in his room. True story.
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27 fév à 20 h 46
#9
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Quoting: Billy739
Reported

Prejudice is never ok


😂😂
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27 fév à 20 h 47
#10
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Quoting: Wqrrior
I would agree if he was moved now, but now they have to wait until the offseason, where he only has one year. This package is fair value given the reduced amount of games. A deadline package would yield more.


I'd agree, unless they traded him July 1st with an extension for his new team worked out. I guess an extension could be agreed to before the draft and signed on July 1 also.
27 fév à 20 h 47
#11
Wqrrior
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Quoting: Billy739
Reported

Prejudice is never ok


If you think 2 2nds is all brodin is worth than calling somebody clueless is not "predudice". You clearly have no clue what Brodin is worth.
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27 fév à 20 h 48
#12
Rejoint: mar 2018
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Despite all the criticism on here, this is actually quite equal in value. Only problem is that teams never pay only fair value and Montreal would probably have to give up a slight bit more. Maybe another prospect or make the pick a 1st in 2021 but top 5 protect it
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27 fév à 20 h 50
#13
Boris Bagel
Rejoint: fév 2017
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Habs pass
Maybe Kulak and 2nd at the most
27 fév à 20 h 51
#14
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Quoting: JayTea
I'd agree, unless they traded him July 1st with an extension for his new team worked out. I guess an extension could be agreed to before the draft and signed on July 1 also.


How often does a player one year shy of becoming a UFA sign an extension after being traded? Especially during the off-season or near the beginning of the season.
27 fév à 20 h 53
#15
Wqrrior
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Quoting: BorisBagel66
Habs pass
Maybe Kulak and 2nd at the most


Quoting: Billy739
Reported

Prejudice is never ok


If assessments as bad as these are made you better be preparing for people to laugh at you. Kulak and a 2nd? There isn't one habs defenseman I'd take over Brodin.

The OP knows what he is talking about. You guys are blinded by bias.
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27 fév à 20 h 54
#16
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Quoting: Billy739
You're joking right?

A Minnisota native born , raised and developed in MIN exclusively before leaving for Laval this year . . . .
Wild's Fanbase is one of the more diehard expansion base's in the NHL and they'd covet cheering a local guy

maybe they dont like the package or something but Zero chance they'd turn their nose up to Poehling
its about as unlike as MTL getting #1OA and snubbing Lefreniere for Raymond


This is a team that needs offence, I’d rather have the guy who has put up 70.
27 fév à 20 h 56
#17
Billy739
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Quoting: Wqrrior
If you think 2 2nds is all brodin is worth than calling somebody clueless is not "predudice". You clearly have no clue what Brodin is worth.


keep digging if you want
i wont help you justify your prejudice

You're high on Brodin , i get it
We Dont Care .

given you've made 25 posts and only 2 are for the team you claim to support i'm not surprised you're acting so hateful and trying to beat people into conforming rather then offering some intelligence to back your statement . I talk hockey not non sense so dont tag me again unless you're willing to act like an adult
27 fév à 20 h 57
#18
Billy739
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Quoting: Wqrrior
If assessments as bad as these are made you better be preparing for people to laugh at you. Kulak and a 2nd? There isn't one habs defenseman I'd take over Brodin.

The OP knows what he is talking about. You guys are blinded by bias.


the irony is your bias is blinding you to the point everyone's wrong but you hahaha
i mean come on man
27 fév à 21 h 03
#19
Wqrrior
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Quoting: Billy739
the irony is your bias is blinding you to the point everyone's wrong but you hahaha
i mean come on man


vs

Quoting: Weezley
😂😂


Quoting: JayTea
@Billy739 has a giant Brodin poster hanging up in his room. True story.


Quoting: ClockReads2113
Brodin could get you more.


Quoting: BLIvingston33
Wild would only be interested in Domi



Not sure what you mean? I see all of these people thinking that this is a pretty decent trade. Only yourself and another MTL fan who think his value is significantly lower. I also am in no way a MIN fan, so how am I using bias in any way?

Brodin is absolutely better than AA or Martinez, who were recently moved for that package. Brodin is a top 10 defensive defenseman in this league who posesses very rare and unique attributes. Said attributes aren't moved for nothing. Brodin has higher trade value than Petry. Younger. Cheaper contract. Stronger defensively. A true #1 on a good number of teams in this league, a #2 on pretty much all other. What if I offered you 2 2nds for Petry. Wouldn't you call me insane? This is what I mean by bias.

And even I under-assess Brodin. @TanSor could provide a far deeper assessment of Brodin's value.
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27 fév à 21 h 17
#20
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Quoting: Weezley
How often does a player one year shy of becoming a UFA sign an extension after being traded? Especially during the off-season or near the beginning of the season.


So infrequently that I can't think of an example. lol
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27 fév à 21 h 17
#21
Billy739
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Quoting: Wqrrior
vs










Not sure what you mean? I see all of these people thinking that this is a pretty decent trade. Only yourself and another MTL fan who think his value is significantly lower. I also am in no way a MIN fan, so how am I using bias in any way?

Brodin is absolutely better than AA or Martinez, who were recently moved for that package. Brodin is a top 10 defensive defenseman in this league who posesses very rare and unique attributes. Said attributes aren't moved for nothing. Brodin has higher trade value than Petry. Younger. Cheaper contract. Stronger defensively. A true #1 on a good number of teams in this league, a #2 on pretty much all other. What if I offered you 2 2nds for Petry. Wouldn't you call me insane? This is what I mean by bias.

And even I under-assess Brodin. @TanSor could provide a far deeper assessment of Brodin's value.


his opinion i respect
Tansor talks like an adult and knows his hockey most importantly we've talked this subject many times.
i'm sure he's forgotten more about the Wild then you or i know

that said you see reality as you want
you quoted 4 posts saying people are supporting your trade when not 1 said it was a good deal
2/4 said outright they'd change the deal

if you read that and pat yourself on the back its your call
i just cant feed into this reality where facts mean nothing
this whole convo i keep thinking of Big Daddy and that seen with the kid '' I win ''


but yeah i'm done not talking hockey
i got a bi polar uncle i work with and dealing with him during the day is hard enough
i cant sit on this post going through the same stuff all night as its exhausting

Tansor knows where to find me when he wants to talk hockey
i look forward to it but i cant do this all night expected to validate your finger painting .
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27 fév à 21 h 19
#22
Démarrer sujet
Subbanator
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Quoting: Wqrrior
Make that 2nd a 1st and they might bite.


Dont think they would get Mtls lottery pick. I looked at it as Minny getting a local kid to replace Koivu/Staal in a couple years, a young dman to take over some of Brodins minutes, and a pick to sweeten the pot. Could see another mid pick go to or if Minny wanted Lehkonen or another depth player.
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27 fév à 21 h 22
#23
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Quoting: JayTea
So infrequently that I can't think of an example. lol


Pageau was this past Monday. Turris was moved a few years back as a sign and trade.
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27 fév à 21 h 23
#24
Billy739
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Quoting: Subbanator7667
Dont think they would get Mtls lottery pick. I looked at it as Minny getting a local kid to replace Koivu/Staal in a couple years, a young dman to take over some of Brodins minutes, and a pick to sweeten the pot. Could see another mid pick go to or if Minny wanted Lehkonen or another depth player.


MIN fans will like that aspect

Unfortunately its VAN , TOR and MTL fans exclusively here right now
27 fév à 21 h 23
#25
Billy739
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Quoting: TanSor
Pageau was this past Monday. Turris was moved a few years back as a sign and trade.


wasnt JGP a UFA
Turris though had 1 year left i just looked up
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