Quoting: Weezley
So much over exaggerating when you talk. 😂
Just stating easy facts for n00bs
, when i see out of the world trades...
If you think Manson will get traded, you have to expect a deep return. Otherwise,
just keeping him.
He is a top2D, he plays amazing anytime i see him play, he is still quite young(in defenders's age) , he kills PK's. He is physical.
He had a little slump earlier this year. His value went down, Just like Josh Anderson from
.
But guess what. When someone's value is down. You still can't aquire a solid (let's just say, he is weaker, than i think by a lot ) Top3D for peanuts. Or a solid middle6 forward.
He has still 2 more full years left at a pretty nice ~ around 4 million $ caphit. Just what Tampa or Toronto would've needed, if he was available to trade.
Hint: he wasn't.
Toronto has no assets to aquire Manson. Johnsson is a 3rd liner, Bracco is AHL level player right now(possibly top9 player future). Dermott is Top6D.
Manson is not like Muzzin, who only worth a 1st, who is aging and already regressing.(more injuries coming in the next 4 years + perfromance declining).
When you want to aquire a prime age top3D(25-30 years), you have to pay a lot.
If you disagree, then show me your ACGM's topics, where you aquire from any team to any team a top Defender who is close to his prime.
Then we'll see, if those players who you just showcased---> will stay or leave in the next few years. Let me guess, you won't do it, because it won't happen. Just like suggestions in these topics.
Let me clarify one more time. When a player has a lot of term left and not on trade block. Price is insanely high, unless that said player on trade block and having career worst year and hopeless future.(and over 30)
Even when Ristolainen had a -40 careeer down year, his value was the lowest ever. He still wouldn't get traded... 1 year later, he still didn't... In this case, Ristolainen = Manson. Teams not making trades just for the sake of it with high caliber players. Unless they have a reason. To help Toronto/insert any other team win the Stanley-Cup is not a reason for Anaheim to trade him.
Result = he stays, until Anaheim get's a crazy offer, which they can't refuse. I help you Johnson + Liljegren is a bad offer. If i could rate it: 1/10. Johnsson(3rd liner) + Dermott(top6 D on most teams) + 2nd round pick(late) = below mediocre offer. That's why i said, it starts with a first round pick ( again probably late) or Nylander ( solid top 6 player). Then go from there. Really easy stuff. For 3 weak pieces, you cannot aquire strong players, who are not on trade block. If Johnsson will be on trade block with dermott in couple of months. Their value = even lower...
Let's examine Dumba. Uhh, everybody imagined him getting traded, because he had a bad year. Guess what: Toronto offered Johnson/Kap + other medicore pieces.
said: no thanks. Keep your Barrie forever, together with Johnsson/Kapanen/Bracco.
I expect Manson to be moved at 2020/2021 trade deadline for a steep package, like Coleman/Zucker 's return. 1st round + prospect + (player).
Or 2021/2022 TDL for a cheaper pricetag for a pure rental for 25 games --> like 2nd round + mediocre prospect. Or ~ 2nd round+3rd round. If bidding war, maybe even more. Hard to predict that far into the future.
TLDR: Manson stays in Anaheim for a while.... unless a super high offer comes in by any team. And it probably won't be Toronto...(they don't have the pieces), except if they are willing to give up high quality assets...