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(BOS/ANA) - Heinen for Ritchie

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24 fév à 12 h 32
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24 fév à 12 h 33
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Really like this for the Ducks, Ritchie has reached his ceiling imo and Heinen still has room to grow

Adds some grit for BOS, not sure if Heinen grew out of favour in BOS but seems ok for both teams here

I'm giving the edge to ANA
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24 fév à 12 h 33
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Aight smart move Anaheim don't know what Boston is thinking but whatevs no skin off my back if they want to get a downgrade they can.
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24 fév à 12 h 34
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Anyone able to explain this deal?
24 fév à 12 h 36
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I think Anaheim got the better player.
24 fév à 12 h 38
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Quoting: Leafs_and_Sens_Fan
Anyone able to explain this deal?


Boston got hosed because they need "toughness"

Nick Ritchie's best season was 9G/22A

Danton Heinen is on track for his worst season at 9G/20A

So Heinen at his worst is as good as Ritchie at his best.
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24 fév à 12 h 42
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Quoting: Leafs_and_Sens_Fan
Anyone able to explain this deal?


Boston wants a Boston like player and they get one.
24 fév à 12 h 42
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Quoting: Leafs_and_Sens_Fan
Anyone able to explain this deal?


I assume that since Boston send Backes to Anaheim earlier this week, they had a "perceived" weak hole in their bottom six for the playoffs for a big body that plays heavy...

Also, they save $1.3M in cap space which could've been a factor.
24 fév à 12 h 44
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Quoting: Salzy
Really like this for the Ducks, Ritchie has reached his ceiling imo and Heinen still has room to grow

Adds some grit for BOS, not sure if Heinen grew out of favour in BOS but seems ok for both teams here

I'm giving the edge to ANA


Heinen just regressed a bit w/ Butch and was passed by A. Bjork in depth (some games they looked like twins out there).
Think BOS wanted to change the 'BODY-TYPE' with all the smallish fwd's they have and for "toughness" as ON3 mentions ^ ^. He could help w/ net-front etc. on PP #2.
I voted fair...
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24 fév à 12 h 44
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Heinen hasnt proven an ability to play up in the lineup, soft player, didnt fit with bjork/coyle. been HS lately. trade was inevitable. Absolute non-factor in the playoffs last year. not a shooter, not a hitter, good defensively responsible but this guy didnt take the next step like they thought he would. 2nd straight disappointing year. Dont mind the trade. they get a little grit, some cap savings. Could be a great depth deal.
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24 fév à 12 h 59
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Honestly a good move for the Ducks. First time in a while lol.
24 fév à 13 h 14
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I like this for the ducks, wonder if there was some component of this that was a follow through from the previous trade, but Boston at least manages to clear some additional space. Maybe this looks a little better if they do something else, but I feel like Ritchie for Heinen is a downgrade even with cap hits considered.
24 fév à 13 h 17
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I think this is fair since heinen’s value has been regressing due to his poor play and lack of work effort out on the ice for the last yr and a half, meanwhile BOS gets a cheaper Kreider like player who could also use a change of scenery.
24 fév à 13 h 17
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Nick Ritchie has good possession numbers and over 700 NHL hits. This is all about what STL did to them.

Heinen wasn't going to be in top 9 and he isn't a 4th line guy. - Even more so if they add another player.

They save a little money and gets some physicality. I am ok with this. although it feels little like Jimmy Hayes for Reily Smith although this time we already have the crappy brother.

If Heinen sat more games, his value goes down. Kuhlman surpassed him.
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24 fév à 13 h 26
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If Heinen can grow a bit more as a player, this could be a great deal for Anaheim. As it stands, it's a pretty fair deal.
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24 fév à 13 h 32
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Ritchie is having his second straight year of being pretty solid, Heinen is on the downswing seemingly... hopefully he rebounds
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24 fév à 13 h 43
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If Ritchie can stay out of the box then great. Over the last 2+ seasons he ranks 7th in PIM. That doesn't fly with Boston if he's going to be taking bad penalties.

Its to bad we couldn't merge the two BOS/ANH trade together.

To BOS: Kase & Ritchie
TO ANH: 2020 1st + Heinen + Andersson + Backes (25% retention)
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24 fév à 14 h 46
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Simply a cap dump by the Bruins. One Ritchie was bad enough; 2 is a disaster. Me thinks they both will be in minors.
24 fév à 15 h 04
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Quoting: ON3M4N
Boston got hosed because they need "toughness"

Nick Ritchie's best season was 9G/22A

Danton Heinen is on track for his worst season at 9G/20A

So Heinen at his worst is as good as Ritchie at his best.


Probably the most ridiculous comment I've seen today.

You're ignoring all context (like games played in each season + recent performance).

LAST 2 SEASONS:

Ritchie = 0.50 points per game (101 games)
Heinen = 0.39 points per game (159 games)

Does it still like like "Heinen at his worst is as good as Ritchie at his best"
24 fév à 15 h 15
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Quoting: drewjenkins
Probably the most ridiculous comment I've seen today.

You're ignoring all context (like games played in each season + recent performance).

LAST 2 SEASONS:

Ritchie = 0.50 points per game (101 games)
Heinen = 0.39 points per game (159 games)

Does it still like like "Heinen at his worst is as good as Ritchie at his best"


Not sure where you're getting 159 games. HF has him at 135 games since the start of the last season. But why stop at just last season? Why not look at the last 2 years + this year?

Ritchie = 0.43 points per game (177 games)
Heinen = 0.48 points per game (212 games)

Ah, now I see. If you exclude his rookie year it puts the numbers in Ritchie's favor.
24 fév à 17 h 27
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Quoting: ON3M4N
Not sure where you're getting 159 games. HF has him at 135 games since the start of the last season.


I included his playoff games.

Or do they not count as games?
24 fév à 17 h 28
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Quoting: ON3M4N
Ah, now I see. If you exclude his rookie year it puts the numbers in Ritchie's favor.


I just did the most recent 2 seasons ... because is doesn't matter what someone did 3 years ago ... clearly.
24 fév à 18 h 02
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Quoting: drewjenkins
I included his playoff games.

Or do they not count as games?


Well considering Ritchie didnt play the playoffs your comparing apples and oranges imo anyways.

As far as your other post, I much rather prefer 3 data points to two as it reduces an outlier season, but to each their own.
26 fév à 6 h 42
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Both guys made their debut last night.....

DH - 18:00 / 1 assist
NR - 14:17 / 0 points

But hey at least Ritchie threw 7 hits and was only a -2 on the night.
 
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