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Colorado fans please answer objectively

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Équipe: 2019-20 Canadiens de Montréal
Date de création initiale: 24 févr. 2020
Publié: 24 févr. 2020
Mode - plafond salarial: Basique
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Something is brewing with Colorado... We have been scouting each other for weeks and insiders have suggested that there is mutual interest in making a deal centered around Thomas Tatar. Sakic and Bergevin have even gone as far as to troll the media when asked questions about it (lmao).
So, Colorado fans, what would you guys be willing to give up. Assuming a first round pick is involved and blue chip prospects like Byram, Newhook and Timmins are unavailable (just like Sakic confirmed), who would the Avalanche part ways with? Kaut? Bowers? Beaucage? Kamanev? Graves? even Jost? A combination of two of them? An additional pick? What would a fair package that would benefit both sides (Montreal gets fair market value and Colorado doesn’t overpay too much)? From what I’ve heard, a 1st, Kaut and another asset (3rd or decent prospect) would seem plausible.
Anyway, Colorado fans, please leave comments in this AGM about this. Let’s hope for a MTL-COL deal centered around Tatar takes place for the sake of both clubs. :)
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  4. Greer, AJ
  5. Henry, Nicholas
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  7. Kamenev, Vladislav
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Assets in play. Not all of them would be part of a potential return obviously. Which players would be part of the return in your opinion if a COL-MTL deal centred around Tatar took place?
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  1. Lindgren, Charlie
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Maybe Lindgren could be added in the deal? Colorado has stated clearly that they are looking for a 3rd-string goalie.
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24 févr. 2020 à 6 h 26
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I'd say Jost would definitely be available. Needs a change of scenery. Looks like he'll be probably be a 4th liner when everybody is healthy. Bowers might also be available
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24 févr. 2020 à 7 h 46
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I could see Kaut and a 2020 1st
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24 févr. 2020 à 7 h 50
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I’d take Graves, Beaucage, and 1st....but think Jost, Kaut, 1st more likely
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24 févr. 2020 à 8 h 3
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I think it’s a deal centered around Jost & Graves, and probably another prospect/pick. Jost has flown up TSN’s trade bait list, and Adrian Dater reporter that the Habs are hot after Ryan Graves. It makes sense for Colorado to move those two as they have Bowers & Timmins/Byram on the way and need roster spots for them.
I don’t think it’s Tatar though. I think it’s Domi or Drouin
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24 févr. 2020 à 8 h 22
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I’d take Graves, Beaucage, and 1st....but think Jost, Kaut, 1st more likely


Agreed. I cant see a contending team trading a 18min LD in Graves... Who's gonna take his place if this happens? Does COL want a D in return?

I think Bergevin was in COL to see Jost and Kaut too
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24 févr. 2020 à 9 h 8
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Agreed. I cant see a contending team trading a 18min LD in Graves... Who's gonna take his place if this happens? Does COL want a D in return?

I think Bergevin was in COL to see Jost and Kaut too


If MTL can walk away with Kaut, Beaucage and a 1st, I'd say mission accomplished. Could always swap someone like Juulsen along with 1st on draft day for better d-man.
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24 févr. 2020 à 10 h 34
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I think it’s a deal centered around Jost & Graves, and probably another prospect/pick. Jost has flown up TSN’s trade bait list, and Adrian Dater reporter that the Habs are hot after Ryan Graves. It makes sense for Colorado to move those two as they have Bowers & Timmins/Byram on the way and need roster spots for them.
I don’t think it’s Tatar though. I think it’s Domi or Drouin


Definitely not Drouin, he was really good before his injury so there is not reason to deal him yet. I love Domi and I love the fact that he wants to be a Hab (à la Subban), but his play has been underwhelming. I think he bounces back next year and gets 60 points, but I wouldn't mind seeing him get dealt for a guy like Dumba, for instance, since we are loaded up front.
24 févr. 2020 à 20 h 2
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Definitely not Drouin, he was really good before his injury so there is not reason to deal him yet. I love Domi and I love the fact that he wants to be a Hab (à la Subban), but his play has been underwhelming. I think he bounces back next year and gets 60 points, but I wouldn't mind seeing him get dealt for a guy like Dumba, for instance, since we are loaded up front.


Looks like we were all wrong
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