Quoting: Slezzy21
@salzy first of Gotta apologize I just have seen to many stupid Manson trades. But I see your point of view and respect it. I personally need a 2nd round for grant because I rather keep him and Honka is probably not gonna pan out. For the other trade I just see it being an underpayment for Manson. I know that sounds a little silly but his presence is so valuable in the playoffs. Plus he's got the term and a great cap hit. Not to mention, the pick is conditional and I don't like the prospects we can get back. To add onto that I don't think its good to take on another cap dump. Then I just completely disagree with the retention on Rowney and getting Cody Ceci despite the pick we receive with him.
I broke down the CAR trade like this in my mind
Manson = Honka + 1st
Miller DZ = JK (I see miller being valued at a 4th/5th without retention and DZ being a 6th/7th)
There is no team that will give a second for Grant, and holding on to him for nothing is poor asset management, we can trade him and sign him in the offseason if we want to keep him that bad
Worrying about someones playoff presence with the team in the situation we are in is also mismanagement, I love Manson and would hate to see him go but getting a really good RD prospect and a mid 1st would be a great return for him, he isn't the same player he was a few seasons ago
His contract adds to his value and BM should take advantage of that and not hold on for the sake of it especially if CAR gets desperate
Taking on minor cap dumps would be fine (Under 3M cap hits for a year) we aren't competing next season so we might as well use a valuable asset in our cap space
a 4th and a 5th for Rowney would be a good return for him, and taking Ceci to play RD for 20 games doesn't affect us at all
This team is 2 seasons away from competing best case, that leaves one year of Manson who may regress further by that time, His value won't be higher than it is now and that should be capitalized on