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Who wants Rakell Come and get him

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Équipe: 2019-20 Ducks d'Anaheim
Date de création initiale: 22 févr. 2020
Publié: 22 févr. 2020
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    22 févr. 2020 à 19 h 53
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    Deangelo. Straight up.
    22 févr. 2020 à 19 h 54
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    Dumba


    Sure
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    Kravtsov+?


    What else
    22 févr. 2020 à 20 h 0
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    What could BUF offer?
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    @DarkShadowZz @Paul13 No we don't!!!!! stupid trade for us
    22 févr. 2020 à 20 h 3
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    Does he play C or LW/RW?
    22 févr. 2020 à 20 h 7
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    Does he play C or LW/RW?


    He’s better at wing
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    22 févr. 2020 à 20 h 29
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    Quoting: Josh
    Deangelo. Straight up.


    Not interested in buying high on DeAngelo. Nils Lundkvist + 1st is what we’d want.

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    ANA doesn’t do Russians

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    Pass. Need a RHD prospect and pick.
    22 févr. 2020 à 20 h 51
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    23 févr. 2020 à 10 h 47
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    Quoting: AndrewLadd
    Bode Wilde, a 1st and Dal Colle


    Pass. That’s less than what Zucker got.

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    Doesn’t meet any of our needs.
    23 févr. 2020 à 10 h 49
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    Pass. That’s less than what Zucker got.



    Doesn’t meet any of our needs.


    what if i sub Bellows for Dal Colle and add a 2nd
    23 févr. 2020 à 11 h 1
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    Quoting: AndrewLadd
    what if i sub Bellows for Dal Colle and add a 2nd


    Definitely better and a very strong offer. I’d pass personally though. Would need a Dobson level RHD prospect coming back for me to pull the trigger, but understand why he’s unavailable.
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    Quoting: mytduxfan
    Pass. That’s less than what Zucker got.


    Maybe because zucker is better and worth more than rakell
    23 févr. 2020 à 11 h 50
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    Quoting: Ragsandbluesfan
    Maybe because zucker is better and worth more than rakell


    How exactly?
    23 févr. 2020 à 20 h 24
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    Quoting: mytduxfan
    How exactly?


    Because hes better offensively, and defensively, and has more term, and hes much more consistent
    23 févr. 2020 à 20 h 51
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    Quoting: Ragsandbluesfan
    Because hes better offensively, and defensively, and has more term, and hes much more consistent


    How can a guy whose peak goals and points in one season is 1 goal and 5 pts less than Rakell's and whose P/GP is 0.54 vs. Rakel's 0.63 be better offensively? I think you'll struggle to justify that one.

    Better defensively? Ok, sure. I won't pretend to have watched Zucker enough to say he's worse defensively. Rakell is ok defensively, but nothing special. So I'll assume Zucker is better. However, I am sure the difference (if any) is small. Zucker isn't some Selke nominated winger or anything, so let's not pretend that his defensive game is leaps and bounds beyond Rakell's. Moreover, they're scoring wingers, so they're getting paid to score and the focus of their game will be putting the puck in the net.

    More term? I'd give you that if Zucker wasn't being paid 5.5M vs. Rakell's <$4M? I mean, we're talking about 1 year here. You're going to have to explain why a contending team that is close to cap would value 1 more year at a more expensive rate for a guy who is less offensively-gifted (as established above) than Rakell. Surely, if you're that close to the cap and pinching every $, you take the cheaper and offensively better guy. I mean, Rakell still has 3 full playoff runs left, so it's not like he's on <$4M now and then going to get a massive increase next year or something. Rakell is also younger, so you're getting a player in his prime years for longer. Yeah, I don't think any contending team will say that Zucker is more valuable because he has more term.

    Zucker is more consistent? Yeah, he's more consistent because Rakell has 2 x 30+ goal seasons whereas Zucker only has 1. So yeah, he consistently produces less than Rakell. That's not an upside. I mean, if you're specifically referring to Rakell's down year this year, Zucker has a similar points total. Again, don't think consistency adds value. Production is key and Rakell is better at producing.


    Rakell is younger, better offensively, cheaper than Zucker. His contract adds massive value because contending teams don't have the cap for big contracts and he comes with enough term for 3 x playoff runs. For these reasons, he should return more than Zucker.
     
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