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Defense Depth

Créé par: AnalyticsGeek
Équipe: 2019-20 Penguins de Pittsburgh
Date de création initiale: 22 févr. 2020
Publié: 22 févr. 2020
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Jack Johnson is an excellent top 4 defenseman who probably deserves more than 3.25 million a year. However, he is not a good fit for this team’s playing style & he’s getting exposed as a result. He gives up an average of 7.5 scoring chances per game (28 every 60 minutes). High danger chances against are 3.05 per game & 12 every 60 minutes. These are just brutal numbers for a stay at home defenseman & its a big reason why the team is constantly outplayed. All the players on this team have seen their goals against, shots against & chances against averages significantly increase when they share ice time with JJ. It’s clear JJ is negatively impacting the play of his teammates & not the other way around.

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22 févr. 2020 à 17 h 18
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“ Jack Johnson is an excellent top 4 defenseman who probably deserves more than 3.25 million a year. ”

Sarcasm, right?
22 févr. 2020 à 17 h 42
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I mean if letang could stop turning the puck over on breakouts, that would probably help his numbers
22 févr. 2020 à 17 h 50
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I mean if letang could stop turning the puck over on breakouts, that would probably help his numbers


yes blame the dman that plays 26 mins a night when Johnson cant handle the simplest task at keeping the puck in the offensive zone get a grip
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22 févr. 2020 à 17 h 51
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I mean if letang could stop turning the puck over on breakouts, that would probably help his numbers



letang is bound to make mistakes Johnson is the one who should be able to bail him out of those mistakes its not Letang cause if it was Dumo would be struggling when he plays but he doesnt not Dumo is much needed
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22 févr. 2020 à 17 h 54
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“ Jack Johnson is an excellent top 4 defenseman who probably deserves more than 3.25 million a year. ”

Sarcasm, right?


I’m glad that you pointed that out. Obviously JJ has performed poorly for the Pens, however I do believe he was a solid top 4 defenseman in his prime with the Blue Jackets & Kings. That’s why he made the US National Team on multiple occasions. He’s just not a good fit on the Pens’ speed system. Perhaps he’d be a better fit with the Blues or Bruins.
22 févr. 2020 à 17 h 56
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Quoting: Mathmanmatt141
I mean if letang could stop turning the puck over on breakouts, that would probably help his numbers


Quoting: Amplifys
letang is bound to make mistakes Johnson is the one who should be able to bail him out of those mistakes its not Letang cause if it was Dumo would be struggling when he plays but he doesnt not Dumo is much needed


The issue is that Johnson is always slow to react to the play, can’t handle passes & move the puck. He constantly puts Letang in a vulnerable position to make mistakes. You don’t see Dumoulin possessing as awful stats despite also playing with Letang.
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22 févr. 2020 à 17 h 57
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The issue is that Johnson is always slow to react to the play, can’t handle passes & move the puck. He constantly puts Letang in a vulnerable position to make mistakes. You don’t see Dumoulin possessing as awful stats despite also playing with Letang.


yes i know thats what im saying he cant handle the simplest tasks he needs sheltered minutes
22 févr. 2020 à 17 h 58
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Quoting: MitchMarnerElite
I’m glad that you pointed that out. Obviously JJ has performed poorly for the Pens, however I do believe he was a solid top 4 defenseman in his prime with the Blue Jackets & Kings. That’s why he made the US National Team on multiple occasions. He’s just not a good fit on the Pens’ speed system. Perhaps he’d be a better fit with the Blues or Bruins.


But the numbers you cite to show he’s bad were also bad for most of his career with the Kings and Columbus. He came into the league as an offense D man with a reputation for being not that great defensively. His offense dried up and people suddenly started thinking he’s a defensive D man.

His performance in Pittsburgh is not different from what happened in Columbus where he played his way out of the lineup and was scratched. It’s not about system or fit. He’s been bad and is still bad.
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Quoting: Mathmanmatt141
I mean if letang could stop turning the puck over on breakouts, that would probably help his numbers


no you aren't allowed to point that out. You can only point out how he was the only one back on a 3 on 1 and somehow blame that on him, especially if Jarry didn't bail them out.
But lets not kid ourselves here. He's not a top 4 defenseman. But his play is pretty solid for a bottom pairing guy.

Quoting: Amplifys
yes blame the dman that plays 26 mins a night when Johnson cant handle the simplest task at keeping the puck in the offensive zone get a grip


Letang is a turnover machine. Please stop defending it.

Quoting: Chigurrhh
“ Jack Johnson is an excellent top 4 defenseman who probably deserves more than 3.25 million a year. ”

Sarcasm, right?


Jack Johnson is an excellenet 3rd pairing defenseman who is about 1 million a year over paid.

There I fixed it.
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yes i know thats what im saying he cant handle the simplest tasks he needs sheltered minutes


dumoulin is a true top pair guy and hes so much more important then lots of people realize honestly might be the mvp of the team he and marino equal in that right this season
22 févr. 2020 à 17 h 59
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Quoting: MitchMarnerElite
The issue is that Johnson is always slow to react to the play, can’t handle passes & move the puck. He constantly puts Letang in a vulnerable position to make mistakes. You don’t see Dumoulin possessing as awful stats despite also playing with Letang.


please stop trying to blame JJ for Letangs stupidity on the ice. He made the same dumb plays with Dumo on the ice all the time. See last years playoff exit for example after example.
22 févr. 2020 à 18 h 0
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no you aren't allowed to point that out. You can only point out how he was the only one back on a 3 on 1 and somehow blame that on him, especially if Jarry didn't bail them out.
But lets not kid ourselves here. He's not a top 4 defenseman. But his play is pretty solid for a bottom pairing guy.



Letang is a turnover machine. Please stop defending it.



Jack Johnson is an excellenet 3rd pairing defenseman who is about 1 million a year over paid.

There I fixed it.


No sh*t he is he gets top minutes he has the 3rd most ice time in the league hes bound to f**king turn over the puck its a god damn given but Johnson doesn't help at all Dumo at least has the brains to bail out Letang
22 févr. 2020 à 18 h 2
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No sh*t he is he gets top minutes he has the 3rd most ice time in the league hes bound to f**king turn over the puck its a god damn given but Johnson doesn't help at all Dumo at least has the brains to bail out Letang


there is nothing JJ can do to help when Letang passes it right to the defender sitting in front of the net. WTF do you expect him to do. Magically reappear in front of the net and block the shot?
He makes bone head plays. It's not about his ice time. It's not about JJ not helping. It's about him not paying attention and looking past guys right in front of him.
22 févr. 2020 à 18 h 6
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there is nothing JJ can do to help when Letang passes it right to the defender sitting in front of the net. WTF do you expect him to do. Magically reappear in front of the net and block the shot?
He makes bone head plays. It's not about his ice time. It's not about JJ not helping. It's about him not paying attention and looking past guys right in front of him.


I know about all that but Letang has NO trust in his partner so he holds onto it much more then needed in the D zone when dumo is back it all changes yes he will still have bone headed moves but he will have a dpartner that he can trust to hold the f***ing puck. Letang rarely passes behind the net to Johnson
22 févr. 2020 à 18 h 20
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I know about all that but Letang has NO trust in his partner so he holds onto it much more then needed in the D zone when dumo is back it all changes yes he will still have bone headed moves but he will have a dpartner that he can trust to hold the f***ing puck. Letang rarely passes behind the net to Johnson


This is the poorest excuse I have ever heard for a guy gifting the over team free high danger shots.
22 févr. 2020 à 18 h 24
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But the numbers you cite to show he’s bad were also bad for most of his career with the Kings and Columbus. He came into the league as an offense D man with a reputation for being not that great defensively. His offense dried up and people suddenly started thinking he’s a defensive D man.

His performance in Pittsburgh is not different from what happened in Columbus where he played his way out of the lineup and was scratched. It’s not about system or fit. He’s been bad and is still bad.


I think JJ was drafted to be a Jamie Drysdale type of player. Someone who could be both a puck mover & shutdown guy. He was the type of guy who could change the fate of a team’s blueline. Obviously he hasn’t lived up to that potential, but he was still decent for many years. I feel that because the league has gotten faster with more emphasis on skill & checking, he is becoming less capable of handling other teams’ top players. The intensity is just too much.
22 févr. 2020 à 18 h 24
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Quoting: Amplifys
dumoulin is a true top pair guy and hes so much more important then lots of people realize honestly might be the mvp of the team he and marino equal in that right this season


Agree Dumoulin & Marino are the best shutdown defenseman on this team.
 
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