No way EDM does that

It was more of a general idea i think. That Manson goes to FLA and ANA flips Trocheck somewhere

Ok. I think it would have to be an overpay to get Bouchard from EDM. Unless EDM is trying to go after a bigger name.

Dale Tallon has repeatedly said he's looking for a LD to match with Aaron Ekblad, not an RD because he has Anton Stalman on that side for two more years, too, plus Mackenzie Weegar if they keep him.

Manson isn't getting moved and could net a better return than Trocheck + picks. CAR could offer more value, even if it were in picks in prospects. I'd do the Ceci deal, but don't see why TOR would.



What about your thoughts on Rakell to EDM instead? I proposed a deal around Bouchard + 1st + (small add) for Rakell. EDM needs help at W. I'd be willing to move Rakell if it netted us a legitimate RHD prospect with a top 4 D upside. I'd also move Rakell for Nils Lundkvist + 1st of the NYR. Too much value for Rakell?

Id say so Bouchard is one of those A+ Prospects. Comparison IMO would be Sandin,Byram, Tippett, Brandstrom Ect those types of prospects by themselves net a Huge player on their own let alone another 1st ontop. Biggest trade comparison i could find would be the OTT-VGK Mark Stone Trade

OTT Traded: Mark Stone (With 8 Year extension) + Lindberg Whom was a throw in to make the contracts work

For VGK: Brandstrom (A+ Prospect) + Oscar Lindberg (Salary Dump) + 2nd Round pick.

If you breakdown that trade without the Salary dump you might be looking at a 3rd/4th instead of a 2nd

As for the NJD/TB trade for Coleman while Foote is a great prospect most people would see him as a B+/A- instead of an A+ IMO those A+ prospects are reserved for players with Top Pair/Line potential

I agree that Bouchard is an A prospect. I really like him and think he's got top pairing upside. Perhaps not elite upside, but he's the right type of 2-way player to become a top pairing D-man IMO.

I don't think Mark Stone is a good comparable to Rakell. Stone was already on a hefty contract in OTT (+$7M) and wanted to get paid even more money on his next deal, effectively forcing OTT to move him. He was certainly being shopped by OTT. When Stone was traded, he got a massive 8 x 9.5M contract extension. I think his contract demands combined with OTT actively shopping him massively reduced his value. Not to mention that Stone had injury concerns attached to him. He's never had a full season and tends to miss at least 20 games per year. That also lowers his value tool. Rakell isn't the most durable of players, usually missing 10 games per season himself, but I think his team friendly deal is very, very attractive and really ups his value compared to what Stone got. I mean, you're talking about <$4M per season for the next 3 playoff runs vs. $9.5M. That's massive, especially for competing teams with limited cap space.

I'm not saying that EDM would accept Bouchard + 1st. Tbh, I don't think they'd move Bouchard at all. However, I think that kind of demand is fair for Rakell.