Giving up two Dmen and getting only in return doesn't really help the Leafs much this season, especially considering Reilly isn't on the team right now.

Then keep Dermott for the rest of the year and trade his rights over the summer...I feel like the leafs still have enough assets to get a Manson deal done without him.

To get manson leafs would have to trade Kappy, dermott, bracco and 2nd.

That’s literally insane lmao

Don't need Dermott, we need RD, Bracco is never going to be in the NHL, Kappy a second and a young RD is probably the floor of a Manson deal value wise and idk if the Ducks take that

Kappy, Hollowell, Petan, and a 2nd for Manson?

I’m fixing this...gimme a few mins.

Yeah once again Anaheim easily declines, Once again it doesn't fill a need. Anaheim deals their only decent RHD in Manson and doesn't get back on in the deal. Yeah Bob Murray and blocks Dubas number.

Depends on what the Ducks brass think of Hollowell I guess, Still isn't enough for me though, would need to be a more impactful young rd

I get what you mean but in that case idk if Anaheim is a match then because there’s no way Toronto will part with Liljegren.

Yeah I've been saying for months they aren't a match, most leafs fans on here don't get that though. Realistically it would be a young RD a tier below Lily, a second and a guy like Kap to get it done imo

Leafs don't have that kind of young RD though in my eyes

I’m gonna say this because I’m a leafs outsider but I feel like fans get their sights set on a certain RHD and immediately think they have the draft/prospect capital to get them. It’s honestly turning into people throwing darts at a dartboard and going with whatever it lands on at this point.

If Anaheim absolutely, positively HAD to trade Josh Manson to Toronto (i.e., at the point of a gun), the minimal requirements would be Nicholas Robertson or the 2020 second plus Timothy Liljegren. And you guys can't really afford to trade either of the first two and won't trade Liljegren. We understand. As we've been saying for months, Anaheim and Toronto simply aren't good trade partners.

One of the problems with all Manson-to-Toronto proposals is that many Maple Leafs fans think that because Liljegren arguably has a higher upside potential than Manson, that means that his trade value is the same. The two things are unrelated. Right now Manson's trade value is higher than Liljegren's because Manson is a proven NHL defenseman and Liljegren is not, no matter what anybody's hopes for the future are. We have our own version of Timothy Liljegren: Jacob Larsson. He was taken in roughly the same position in the draft as Liljegren and had higher "reviews," yet no one is suggesting that Larsson is Manson's equal -- yet.

It is insane to think leaf fans can trade for top 4 dman under control for a career ahl player, bottom pairing nhl and late round pick.

Now u change to add kap which helps but they need dman way more then they need speedy third line winger. The rest prolly will never play in nhl or at least not be impact player.

It would be like them offering leafs 2nd and steel for Reilly.