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The worst cap hell in NHL history

Créé par: Wqrrior
Date de création initiale: fév 16, 2020
Publié: Feb 17 at 12:16 am
Équipe: 2020-21 Lightning de Tampa Bay
Signatures de joueurs autonomes
RFAANNÉESCAP HIT
Cirelli, Anthony24 125 000 $
Joseph, Mathieu1750 000 $
Sergachev, Mikhail34 600 000 $
Verhaeghe, Carter2750 000 $
Volkov, Alexander2875 000 $
Lazar, Curtis2750 000 $
Cernak, Erik22 500 000 $
Stephens, Mitchell2850 000 $
UFAANNÉESCAP HIT
Scandella, Marco11 000 000 $
Transactions
TBL
  1. 2021 4e round pick (CGY)
CGY
  1. Coburn, Braydon
Détails additionnels:
hometown native of calgary... only place i could see him waiving for
TBL
  1. Asplund, Rasmus
  2. Lazar, Curtis [Droits de RFA]
  3. 2021 2e round pick (BUF)
BUF
  1. Killorn, Alex
Détails additionnels:
I don't see there being a bidding war on Killorn. Teams know he is the only guy TB can move, and therefore the urgent situation will lead to low offers. BUF is the standout team that should be in on Alex.
TBL
  1. Pitlick, Rhett [Liste de réserve]
  2. 2021 5e round pick (OTT)
MTL
  1. Paquette, Cédric
TBL
  1. Ritchie, Nick
  2. 2021 3e round pick (ANA)
ANA
  1. Johnson, Tyler
Détails additionnels:
trying really hard to find a case where Johnson waives. If anywhere, it'd have to be a team in the west (He's from Washington State) and somewhere he can get ice time. He's destined for Seattle as it is... would ANA want a potential bounceback on the cheap?
Rachats de contrats
  • Vincent Lecavalier: 0 $
ANNÉE DE REPÊCHAGERONDE 1RONDE 2RONDE 3RONDE 4RONDE 5RONDE 6RONDE 7
2020
TBL
TBL
TBL
TBL
DET
TBL
OTT
TBL
2021
TBL
TBL
BUF
TBL
ANA
TBL
CGY
TBL
OTT
TBL
TBL
NSH
NJD
2022
TBL
TBL
TBL
TBL
TBL
TBL
TBL
TAILLE DE LA FORMATIONPLAFOND SALARIALCAP HITEXCÉDENTS BONISESPACE SOUS LE PLAFOND SALARIAL
2383 500 000 $82 568 924 $0 $500 000 $931 076 $
Ailier gaucheCentreAilier droit
TBL
Coleman, Blake
1 800 000 $
C, AG, AD
UFA - 1
TBL
Point, Brayden
6 750 000 $
C, AD
RFA - 2
TBL
Kucherov, Nikita
9 500 000 $
AD
NMC
UFA - 7
TBL
Palat, Ondrej
5 300 000 $
AD, AG
NTC
UFA - 2
TBL
Stamkos, Steven
8 500 000 $
C, AG
NMC
UFA - 4
Lazar, Curtis
750 000 $
C, AD
RFA
ANA
Ritchie, Nick
1 498 925 $
AG
RFA - 1
TBL
Cirelli, Anthony
4 125 000 $
C
RFA
TBL
Gourde, Yanni
5 166 666 $
AD, AG, C
NTC
UFA - 5
BUF
Asplund, Rasmus
845 000 $
C, AG
RFA - 1
TBL
Verhaeghe, Carter
750 000 $
C, AG
RFA
TBL
Raddysh, Taylor
833 333 $
AD
RFA - 1
Défenseur gaucherDéfenseur droitierGardien de but
TBL
Hedman, Victor
7 875 000 $
DG
NMC
UFA - 5
TBL
Sergachev, Mikhail
4 600 000 $
DG
RFA
TBL
Vasilevskiy, Andrei
9 500 000 $
G
UFA - 8
TBL
McDonagh, Ryan
6 750 000 $
DG
NTC
UFA - 6
TBL
Foote, Cal
925 000 $
DD
RFA - 1
TBL
McElhinney, Curtis
1 300 000 $
G
UFA - 1
Scandella, Marco
1 000 000 $
DG
UFA
TBL
Cernak, Erik
2 500 000 $
DD
RFA
Laissés de côtéListe des blessés (IR)Liste des blessés à long terme (LTIR)
TBL
Joseph, Mathieu
750 000 $
AG, AD
RFA
TBL
Stephens, Mitchell
850 000 $
C
RFA
TBL
Witkowski, Luke
700 000 $
DD
UFA - 1

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17 fév à 0 h 20
#1
Rejoint: aoû 2019
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Sharks would be interested in Johnson for the right price. We are prime candidates to get back in the playoffs and have that warm cali weather
17 fév à 0 h 21
#2
Rejoint: jui 2018
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Yzerman jumped ship before those NMC/NTC became a real problem. 😂 Hard sell to get them to waive especially for the tax bens of living there.
17 fév à 0 h 42
#3
Shibbal18
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Sabres need a stud 2c, they already have top 6 wingers. Not that id be against it, i would just assume assets (2nd) would go towards securing a centerman first before they worry about anything else
17 fév à 0 h 43
#4
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Wqrrior
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Quoting: Shibbal18
Sabres need a stud 2c, they already have top 6 wingers. Not that id be against it, i would just assume assets (2nd) would go towards securing a centerman first before they worry about anything else


You guys should be first in line for assets on the cheap. Anyone that doesn't cost market value and this team realistically should be all over it. Can't remember the last time that team has won a trade.
17 fév à 0 h 49
#5
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Quoting: Wqrrior
You guys should be first in line for assets on the cheap. Anyone that doesn't cost market value and this team realistically should be all over it. Can't remember the last time that team has won a trade.


Admittedly, Kilorn is having a great year, a career year actually.

that being said, he is a 30 year old that just has his first ever 20g season, and has a career high 47 points

i don't think this Buf trade qualifies as a "Low ball" offer,
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17 fév à 0 h 49
#6
Shibbal18
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Quoting: Wqrrior
You guys should be first in line for assets on the cheap. Anyone that doesn't cost market value and this team realistically should be all over it. Can't remember the last time that team has won a trade.


Like i said wouldnt be against it, i would just hate to lose out on a 2C because they didnt have the expendable assets any more after trading for a winger they dont really need. I could only expect what happened to Skinner this year (and to an extent Sheary and Vesey), to happen to Killorn as well. No one to feed them the puck and they drop out of existence
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17 fév à 0 h 51
#7
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Quoting: Shibbal18
Like i said wouldnt be against it, i would just hate to lose out on a 2C because they didnt have the expendable assets any more after trading for a winger they dont really need. I could only expect what happened to Skinner this year (and to an extent Sheary and Vesey), to happen to Killorn as well. No one to feed them the puck and they drop out of existence


They could go after that as well? If they can get Pageau in or maybe make a splash for a guy like Henrique?
17 fév à 3 h 48
#8
BigDog91
Rejoint: mar 2019
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Quoting: Wqrrior
You guys should be first in line for assets on the cheap. Anyone that doesn't cost market value and this team realistically should be all over it. Can't remember the last time that team has won a trade.


Yeah no interest in kilorn and if their was it would cost a lot less then this offer. I bet next asplund got put similar point totals as kilorn playing for Tampa. Lazar has been surprise and one our best face off guys. Then second in a loaded draft. All for 30 year old who hasn’t cracked 50 points on one of the best offensive teams in NHL history?? No thanks.
17 fév à 3 h 56
#9
Go Boltz! & Go Avs!
Rejoint: nov 2018
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Quoting: BigDog91
Yeah no interest in kilorn and if their was it would cost a lot less then this offer. I bet next asplund got put similar point totals as kilorn playing for Tampa. Lazar has been surprise and one our best face off guys. Then second in a loaded draft. All for 30 year old who hasn’t cracked 50 points on one of the best offensive teams in NHL history?? No thanks.


You're obsessed with point totals, that's not everything in hockey, just saying... Have a great day Mr. Buffalo fan... at least you won today... haha

Killorn will get us a nice return... someone will have a good offer... there are 30 other teams who need a guy on a good contract like him... on UFA you get a player like that for 6+mill $+ long contracts...
Really solid middle 6 guy... teams usually don't trade players like this... so we might keep him, who knows...
17 fév à 8 h 28
#10
BigDog91
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Quoting: F3ruS
You're obsessed with point totals, that's not everything in hockey, just saying... Have a great day Mr. Buffalo fan... at least you won today... haha

Killorn will get us a nice return... someone will have a good offer... there are 30 other teams who need a guy on a good contract like him... on UFA you get a player like that for 6+mill $+ long contracts...
Really solid middle 6 guy... teams usually don't trade players like this... so we might keep him, who knows...


We both know you cant afford to keep him. or you will loose Cerelli, Cernak and sergachev. WHich will all cost more then above. WHile the cap hit isnt bad he is still 30 and never was point producer. Sabres have enough 30-40 guys. We easily decline.
17 fév à 11 h 16
#11
Go Boltz! & Go Avs!
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Modifié 17 fév à 11 h 22
Quoting: BigDog91
We both know you cant afford to keep him. or you will loose Cerelli, Cernak and sergachev. WHich will all cost more then above. WHile the cap hit isnt bad he is still 30 and never was point producer. Sabres have enough 30-40 guys. We easily decline.


I didn't say for this exact offer smile It's just it will be a decent one cool. We don't lose those guys don't worry... u can buy out players, if u heard about it... GM's always solves these problems... one way or other...
My preferred option keep Killorn-> Sell Johnson/Gourde. Killorn has the best contract of the 3.

Serg is still a 3rd pair D - when we healthy - 3rd pairing defenders doesn't get 5 millions $ contracts...

Charlie McAvoy got 5 million $ for 3 years - he plays 25 minutes - top pairing - completely different category... If we pay him that much... then other defenders like Mcdonagh needs to go and he replaces him etc... or we sell Serg... if we truly can't keep him(like let's just say for fun he wants only 7 million+ $ for 8 years or something ridicoulus, then we sell). Next Man up mentality.
My prediction: 3 million $ for 2-3 years for Serg right now.
 
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