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Cheap fix DET BUF OTT

Créé par: BeterChiarelli
Date de création initiale: fév 15, 2020
Publié: Feb 15 at 11:44 pm
Équipe: 2019-20 Oilers d'Edmonton
Explications
Run a rotation of Vesey/Neal - McDavid - Kassian on the second line and Benson/Vesey - Haas - Gagner on the fourth line once Kassian is back from suspension.

Vesey's a pretty cheap asset that shoots a lot and has enough of a frame to make some extra room for McDavid. The Puljujarvi/Mittelstadt swap seems pretty reasonable too. I'd keep Casey in the minors and let him reset for the year after escaping from Buffalo.

Helm gives Edmonton that extra piece for the shutdown third line they've been running all season. The money is pretty even between Russell and Helm and either player is making or breaking the deal. Given Detroit's defense situation next season, a deal like this probably makes sense for them. Safin and the noise surrounding 2021 picks is just some extra incentive.
Transactions
EDM
    CGY
    1. 2020 3e round pick (EDM)
    EDM
    1. Helm, Darren
    2. 2021 7e round pick (DET)
    DET
    1. Russell, Kris
    2. Safin, Ostap
    3. 2021 3e round pick (EDM)
    EDM
    1. Mittelstadt, Casey
    2. Vesey, Jimmy
    BUF
    1. Khaira, Jujhar
    2. Puljujärvi, Jesse [Liste de réserve]
    EDM
    1. Reilly, Mike
    2. 2022 5e round pick (OTT)
    OTT
    1. Chiasson, Alex
    Rachats de contrats
    • Andrej Sekera: 2 500 000 $
    • Benoit Pouliot: 1 333 333 $
    • Eric Gryba: 300 000 $
    Transactions impliquant une retenue de salaire
    • Milan Lucic: 750 000 $ (13%)
    • Sam Gagner: 315 000 $ (10%)
    Enfoui
    • Markus Granlund: 225 000 $ (1 300 000 $)
    • Brandon Manning: 1 175 000 $ (2 250 000 $)
    ANNÉE DE REPÊCHAGERONDE 1RONDE 2RONDE 3RONDE 4RONDE 5RONDE 6RONDE 7
    2020
    EDM
    EDM
    EDM
    EDM
    EDM
    EDM
    2021
    EDM
    EDM
    EDM
    EDM
    EDM
    PIT
    EDM
    DET
    2022
    EDM
    EDM
    EDM
    EDM
    EDM
    OTT
    EDM
    EDM
    TAILLE DE LA FORMATIONPLAFOND SALARIALCAP HITEXCÉDENTS BONISESPACE SOUS LE PLAFOND SALARIAL
    2281 500 000 $78 584 498 $0 $2 740 000 $2 915 502 $

    Formation

    Ailier gaucheCentreAilier droit
    EDM
    Nugent-Hopkins, Ryan
    6 000 000 $
    C, AG
    UFA - 2
    EDM
    Draisaitl, Leon
    8 500 000 $
    C, AG, AD
    UFA - 6
    EDM
    Yamamoto, Kailer
    894 166 $
    AD, C
    RFA - 2
    BUF
    Vesey, Jimmy
    2 275 000 $
    AG, AD
    UFA - 1
    EDM
    McDavid, Connor
    12 500 000 $
    C
    UFA - 7
    EDM
    Neal, James
    5 750 000 $
    AD, AG
    UFA - 4
    EDM
    Sheahan, Riley
    900 000 $
    AG, C
    UFA - 1
    DET
    Helm, Darren
    3 850 000 $
    C, AG, AD
    UFA - 2
    EDM
    Archibald, Josh
    1 000 000 $
    AD
    UFA - 1
    EDM
    Benson, Tyler
    808 333 $
    AG
    RFA - 2
    EDM
    Haas, Gaëtan
    925 000 $
    C
    UFA - 1
    EDM
    Gagner, Sam
    2 835 000 $
    C, AD
    UFA - 1
    Défenseur gaucherDéfenseur droitierGardien de but
    EDM
    Klefbom, Oscar
    4 167 000 $
    DG
    UFA - 4
    EDM
    Larsson, Adam
    4 166 666 $
    DD
    UFA - 2
    EDM
    Koskinen, Mikko
    4 500 000 $
    G
    NTC
    UFA - 3
    EDM
    Nurse, Darnell
    3 200 000 $
    DG
    UFA - 1
    EDM
    Bear, Ethan
    720 000 $
    DD
    RFA - 1
    EDM
    Smith, Mike
    2 000 000 $
    G
    NTC
    UFA - 1
    EDM
    Jones, Caleb
    720 000 $
    DG
    RFA - 1
    EDM
    Benning, Matthew
    1 900 000 $
    DD
    RFA - 1
    Laissés de côtéListe des blessés (IR)Liste des blessés à long terme (LTIR)
    EDM
    Kassian, Zack
    1 950 000 $
    AD
    UFA - 1
    EDM
    Nygård, Joakim
    925 000 $
    AG
    UFA - 1
    EDM
    Brodziak, Kyle
    1 150 000 $
    C
    UFA - 1
    OTT
    Reilly, Mike
    1 500 000 $
    DG
    UFA - 2
    EDM
    Mantha, Ryan
    870 000 $
    DD
    RFA - 1

    Unités spéciales

    Avantage numérique 1
    Yamamoto, K.
    Draisaitl, L.
    Nugent-Hopkins, R.
    Bear, E.
    McDavid, C.
    Avantage numérique 2
    Gagner, S.
    Haas, G.
    Vesey, J.
    Neal, J.
    Klefbom, O.
    Infériorité numérique 1
    Sheahan, R.
    Archibald, J.
    Nurse, D.
    Larsson, A.
    Infériorité numérique 2
    Helm, D.
    Haas, G.
    Jones, C.
    Benning, M.

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    15 fév à 23 h 46
    #1
    Wqrrior
    Rejoint: fév 2019
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    i like that helm trade... i wonder if helm would waive? I doubt russell does though.

    I'd rather chiasson, who > reilly
    aedoran a aimé ceci.
    15 fév à 23 h 47
    #2
    Rejoint: mai 2019
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    Vessy is the guy I would go after too.
    BeterChiarelli a aimé ceci.
    15 fév à 23 h 52
    #3
    Démarrer sujet
    Hey Beter
    Rejoint: oct 2017
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    Quoting: Wqrrior
    i like that helm trade... i wonder if helm would waive? I doubt russell does though.

    I'd rather chiasson, who > reilly


    His NTC is void at the moment, given that Detroit cannot mathematically make the playoffs. I believe he's missing the top-9 F requirement for his TOI as well. If not, it's damn close.

    Chaisson is strictly a cap casualty. Reilly is likely in the AHL next season, which essentially frees up the majority of Chiasson's cap hit from the books. Not much to get back for him, but it's better than a buyout or having to pay actual assets to move him.
    16 fév à 0 h 01
    #4
    Rejoint: déc 2017
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    Quoting: Wqrrior
    i like that helm trade... i wonder if helm would waive? I doubt russell does though.

    I'd rather chiasson, who > reilly


    Take Russel out Detroit already has to many players that are 30+. Then I'd make the trade. Unless the Wings make the playoffs Helm's NTC is voided.
    16 fév à 0 h 02
    #5
    Red Wing Nut
    Rejoint: jui 2015
    Messages: 739
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    Yes in a mili second...long as Russell cap $ isn't horrid in length
    16 fév à 0 h 11
    #6
    Rejoint: jan 2020
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    Ottawa doesnt want to trade draft picks for Chiasson they are full on the right wing already. Brown, White and Ryan
    16 fév à 0 h 19
    #7
    Démarrer sujet
    Hey Beter
    Rejoint: oct 2017
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    Modifié 16 fév à 0 h 25
    Quoting: aedoran
    Take Russel out Detroit already has to many players that are 30+. Then I'd make the trade. Unless the Wings make the playoffs Helm's NTC is voided.


    Not how that works. Enjoy a year of Russell before rushing to get Seider into the NHL.

    Quoting: Mike
    Yes in a mili second...long as Russell cap $ isn't horrid in length


    Expires next year, same as Helm's.

    Quoting: Leafs_and_Sens_Fan
    Ottawa doesnt want to trade draft picks for Chiasson they are full on the right wing already. Brown, White and Ryan


    Ryan's out for a while and the Senators need to remain cap compliant even through the deadline. You're also referring to a late draft pick two years away. There's almost no value in it.
    16 fév à 0 h 26
    #8
    Rejoint: jan 2020
    Messages: 1,040
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    Quoting: BeterChiarelli
    Not how that works. Enjoy a year of Russell before rushing to get Seider into the NHL.



    Expires next year, same as Helm's.



    Ryan's out for a while and the Senators need to remain cap compliant even through the deadline.


    Ryan is coming back very soon. Plus they have Duclair on the right
    16 fév à 0 h 36
    #9
    Démarrer sujet
    Hey Beter
    Rejoint: oct 2017
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    Quoting: Leafs_and_Sens_Fan
    Ryan is coming back very soon. Plus they have Duclair on the right


    Rotoworld is making it sound like weeks, possibly a month+. The only "source" claiming a return close to "very soon" is NHLTradeRumors. I'll take your position on his return with a grain of salt.

    Then throw Chiasson on the goddamn left wing for all I care. He's been traded for a late pick years down the road and a depth defenseman. This really isnt the focal point of the AGM.
    16 fév à 0 h 50
    #10
    Rejoint: jan 2020
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    Quoting: BeterChiarelli
    Rotoworld is making it sound like weeks, possibly a month+. The only "source" claiming a return close to "very soon" is NHLTradeRumors. I'll take your position on his return with a grain of salt.

    Then throw Chiasson on the goddamn left wing for all I care. He's been traded for a late pick years down the road and a depth defenseman. This really isnt the focal point of the AGM.


    I'd dump him to another team... I dunno why Ottawa would want him when they just traded for Reilly to fill a hole.
    16 fév à 5 h 08
    #11
    Rejoint: déc 2017
    Messages: 221
    Mentions "j'aime": 34
    Quoting: BeterChiarelli


    Chaisson is strictly a cap casualty. Reilly is likely in the AHL next season, which essentially frees up the majority of Chiasson's cap hit from the books. Not much to get back for him, but it's better than a buyout or having to pay actual assets to move him.

    Ottawa doesn't want Chiasson back. Already tried that one. Regardless of how little what you've asked for back is worth in your mind. They already gave up a 5th to get Reilly, now they send him out with another to acquire a bad contract attached to a guy they don't want? You can say it's not the focus, so why put it there?
    16 fév à 23 h 40
    #12
    Sam Pollock
    Rejoint: mai 2019
    Messages: 129
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    Buffalo isn't going to quit on Mittlestad yet. The only way he goes is if its part of a bigger deal for a better return.
     
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