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Why Trade Toffoli

Créé par: Seaver28
Date de création initiale: fév 15, 2020
Publié: Feb 15 at 11:11 pm
Équipe: 2020-21 Kings de Los Angeles
Explications
Why is LA so bent on trading TT? He's a decent goal scorer, probably close to 30 if he plays with Kopitar fulltime. They need scoring and have ZERO proven scorers coming up. If there was a solid younger/cheaper option then getting a 1st for TT seems fine. It just doesn't make sense.
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15 fév à 23 h 12
#1
Wqrrior
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are you new to contracts?

It might have to be due to the fact that if they don't trade him, LA gets nothing? Gambling on a guy resigning as a rebuilding team is a very risky and almost dumb move to make.
Copenhagen et Gofnut999 a aimé ceci.
15 fév à 23 h 15
#2
RobBlakeIsAnIdiot
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Quoting: Wqrrior
are you new to contracts?

It might have to be due to the fact that if they don't trade him, LA gets nothing? Gambling on a guy resigning as a rebuilding team is a very risky and almost dumb move to make.


Toffoli would resign. He loves LA. It's LA... Not just any rebuilding team.
15 fév à 23 h 16
#3
RobBlakeIsAnIdiot
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Because the LA Kings are a rebuilding team and that's how rebuilding works.......
15 fév à 23 h 16
#4
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Exactly what Wqrrior said
Also by the time the team is ready to compete TT might be 5 or 10 years older
15 fév à 23 h 17
#5
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Because they are rebuilding and need picks more then 27yo wingers. If they want him back just sign him this summer.
palhal a aimé ceci.
15 fév à 23 h 18
#6
Wqrrior
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Quoting: Bf3351
Toffoli would resign. He loves LA. It's LA... Not just any rebuilding team.


Well, it's difficult to know exactly what they think. He might present himself as that and then really want something else. Consider Pavelski and SJS. Many people thought he would be a career Shark.

Again, it's a risk. LA can't really be taking risks. If there's no contract talk progressions two mondays by now he should be moved. They can always resign him.
15 fév à 23 h 49
#7
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(i mean he's a rental, that's what teams do, they trade rentals) but yeah, his value defiantly seems to be the lowest of the (good young) rentals this year, by a good margin, and I don't think the difference between him and Kreider is that big, their asking prices are miles apart, one fanbase demands a 2020 first, your best spec, sometimes+, and LAK's rumored asking price is seemingly a second+b spec
15 fév à 23 h 55
#8
CGY
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Here’s where I’m at on it.

Toffoli to Calgary has been kicked around in the media a fair bit.

I’ve lived in Calgary my whole life and travelled to LA several times. Talk about what a lifestyle change that would be, going from the beaches to snowy winters.

I get that not everyone thinks the same as me, but if I’m Toffoli, I already have a cup. I personally would be willing to take less to stay in LA. There’s a lifestyle there you can’t find many other places
16 fév à 0 h 40
#9
RangerWall92
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It's actually better to trade him now that he's playing well. LA can ask for a higher price and get a couple decent picks and a prospect now that his trade value might be increasing
16 fév à 1 h 32
#10
RobBlakeIsAnIdiot
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Quoting: Wqrrior
Well, it's difficult to know exactly what they think. He might present himself as that and then really want something else. Consider Pavelski and SJS. Many people thought he would be a career Shark.

Again, it's a risk. LA can't really be taking risks. If there's no contract talk progressions two mondays by now he should be moved. They can always resign him.


He'll be traded and I don't want him resigned I'm just saying I think if that's what Blake wanted they could probably get it done easily.
16 fév à 20 h 09
#11
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Quoting: Wqrrior
are you new to contracts?

It might have to be due to the fact that if they don't trade him, LA gets nothing? Gambling on a guy resigning as a rebuilding team is a very risky and almost dumb move to make.


It's not gambling if they sign him. Seems like he wants to stay in LA and they might be able to squeeze a nice home town discount. He's traded he's not coming back because he'll get more playing the field and LA won't be interested later.
16 fév à 20 h 12
#12
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Quoting: Copenhagen
Exactly what Wqrrior said
Also by the time the team is ready to compete TT might be 5 or 10 years older


LA has #1 prospect pool, they're not that far off. 2-3 years. Besides, by that logic they should be shopping Kopitar and Doughty. If it's a full rebuild then no one should be safe.
16 fév à 20 h 14
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Quoting: Seaver28
LA has #1 prospect pool, they're not that far off. 2-3 years. Besides, by that logic they should be shopping Kopitar and Doughty. If it's a full rebuild then no one should be safe.


2-3 years off of what, competing for the cup,. Yah right
16 fév à 20 h 20
#14
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Playoffs. By definition that means competing for the cup. Long, long shot but not #30th.
16 fév à 23 h 27
#15
Wqrrior
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Quoting: Seaver28
Playoffs. By definition that means competing for the cup. Long, long shot but not #30th.


II definitely don't see this team as having the #1 prospect pool. No stand out guys besides Turcotte. Mostly just guys capped at 2nd line. And even as a top 5 prospect pool, there's a pretty high chance a percentage of them don't work out and or the team taking a while to rebuild. My own team in Vancouver serves as an example. We had the #1 prospect pool for years and still took 5 years to get to even talking about the playoffs, nevermind being competitive.
17 fév à 11 h 18
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Quoting: Wqrrior
II definitely don't see this team as having the #1 prospect pool. No stand out guys besides Turcotte. Mostly just guys capped at 2nd line. And even as a top 5 prospect pool, there's a pretty high chance a percentage of them don't work out and or the team taking a while to rebuild. My own team in Vancouver serves as an example. We had the #1 prospect pool for years and still took 5 years to get to even talking about the playoffs, nevermind being competitive.


Vilardi and Kaliyev not first line guys??? Kupari and fagemo are tweeners but sheeeesh u cant say that vilardi and kaliyev are 2nd line players
17 fév à 15 h 25
#17
Wqrrior
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Quoting: thilk
Vilardi and Kaliyev not first line guys??? Kupari and fagemo are tweeners but sheeeesh u cant say that vilardi and kaliyev are 2nd line players


vilardi is a horvat comparable. can play top line, but best on 2nd.
24 fév à 21 h 38
#18
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Quoting: Wqrrior
vilardi is a horvat comparable. can play top line, but best on 2nd.


had a pretty nice run in his cup of coffee this past week. think hell be much better than horvat
24 fév à 21 h 41
#19
Wqrrior
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Quoting: thilk
had a pretty nice run in his cup of coffee this past week. think hell be much better than horvat


-2 last game and yeah, a good debut. But players come in strong as rookies. Look at Poehling last year. Vilardi will be good, but he won't be your franchise cornerstone 1C
25 fév à 11 h 52
#20
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Quoting: Wqrrior
-2 last game and yeah, a good debut. But players come in strong as rookies. Look at Poehling last year. Vilardi will be good, but he won't be your franchise cornerstone 1C


i think he can be but turcotte also could or byfield if they pick at 2
25 fév à 11 h 53
#21
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Quoting: Wqrrior
-2 last game and yeah, a good debut. But players come in strong as rookies. Look at Poehling last year. Vilardi will be good, but he won't be your franchise cornerstone 1C


also +/- i could care less about in a 3 game stint this team is awful it doesnt mean he was bad on defense and didnt score either
 
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