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Créé par: Wqrrior
Équipe: 2020-21 Hurricanes de la Caroline
Date de création initiale: 15 févr. 2020
Publié: 15 févr. 2020
Mode - plafond salarial: Basique
Signatures de joueurs autonomes
RFAANSCAP HIT
21 750 000 $
11 650 000 $
2750 000 $
2885 250 $
UFAANSCAP HIT
43 750 000 $
45 750 000 $
13 150 000 $
1750 000 $
1700 000 $
1700 000 $
Transactions
1.
CAR
  1. Kase, Ondrej
  2. Shore, Devin [Droits de RFA]
ANA
  1. McGinn, Brock
  2. Niederreiter, Nino
  3. Choix de 3e ronde en 2021 (CAR)
Détails additionnels:
If Kase scores more than 41 points OR 15 points more than Niederreiter, the 3rd becomes a 2nd
2.
ARI
  1. Maenalanen, Saku [Liste de réserve]
  2. Mrázek, Petr (500 000 $ retained)
Détails additionnels:
Idea is a bit "out there" - ARI gets cap relief, CAR gets the better goalie
3.
MIN
  1. Fleury, Haydn [Droits de RFA]
  2. Choix de 1e ronde en 2021 (CAR)
Rachats de contrats
Transactions impliquant une retenue de salaire
Repêchage1e ronde2e ronde3e ronde4e ronde5e ronde6e ronde7e ronde
2020
Logo de CAR
Logo de TOR
Logo de CAR
Logo de NYR
Logo de CAR
Logo de BUF
Logo de CAR
Logo de CAR
Logo de TOR
2021
Logo de CAR
Logo de CAR
Logo de CAR
Logo de CAR
Logo de CAR
Logo de STL
2022
Logo de CAR
Logo de CAR
Logo de CAR
Logo de CAR
Logo de CAR
Logo de CAR
Logo de CAR
TAILLE DE LA FORMATIONPLAFOND SALARIALCAP HITEXCÉDENTS Info-bulleBONISESPACE SOUS LE PLAFOND SALARIAL
2483 500 000 $84 064 239 $1 367 073 $3 487 500 $-564 239 $
Ailier gaucheCentreAilier droit
Logo de Hurricanes de la Caroline
925 000 $925 000 $ (Bonis de performance2 650 000 $$3M)
AG, AD
UFA - 1
Logo de Hurricanes de la Caroline
8 460 250 $8 460 250 $
C
UFA - 4
Logo de Hurricanes de la Caroline
5 400 000 $5 400 000 $
AG, AD
UFA - 4
5 750 000 $5 750 000 $
AG
UFA - 1
Logo de Hurricanes de la Caroline
6 000 000 $6 000 000 $
C, AG
NMC
UFA - 3
Logo de Hurricanes de la Caroline
863 333 $863 333 $ (Bonis de performance537 500 $$538K)
AD
RFA - 2
Logo de Hurricanes de la Caroline
3 375 000 $3 375 000 $
AG, AD, C
UFA - 1
Logo de Hurricanes de la Caroline
3 750 000 $3 750 000 $
C, AG
UFA - 1
Logo de Ducks d'Anaheim
2 600 000 $2 600 000 $
AD
UFA - 1
Logo de Hurricanes de la Caroline
1 750 000 $1 750 000 $
AG, AD
UFA - 1
Logo de Hurricanes de la Caroline
1 650 000 $1 650 000 $
C
UFA - 1
Logo de Hurricanes de la Caroline
863 333 $863 333 $ (Bonis de performance300 000 $$300K)
AD
UFA - 1
Défenseur gaucherDéfenseur droitierGardien de but
Logo de Hurricanes de la Caroline
5 300 000 $5 300 000 $
DG
UFA - 5
Logo de Hurricanes de la Caroline
5 750 000 $5 750 000 $
DD
UFA - 1
Logo de Coyotes de l'Arizona
4 250 000 $4 250 000 $
G
UFA - 1
Logo de Wild du Minnesota
4 166 667 $4 166 667 $
DG
NMC
UFA - 1
Logo de Hurricanes de la Caroline
4 025 000 $4 025 000 $
DD
UFA - 4
Logo de Hurricanes de la Caroline
3 400 000 $3 400 000 $
G
UFA - 1
Logo de Hurricanes de la Caroline
4 050 000 $4 050 000 $
DG
M-NTC
UFA - 3
3 150 000 $3 150 000 $
DD
UFA - 2
Laissés de côtéListe des blessés (IR)Liste des blessés à long terme (LTIR)
Logo de Hurricanes de la Caroline
885 250 $885 250 $
DG
UFA - 1
Logo de Hurricanes de la Caroline
750 000 $750 000 $
C, AG
UFA - 1
750 000 $750 000 $
DD
UFA - 1
Logo de Hurricanes de la Caroline
2 000 000 $2 000 000 $
AG, AD
UFA - 1

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15 févr. 2020 à 22 h 28
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Probably add a bit more to the ANA trade to cover the age difference between Nino and Kase and also add slightly in the ARZ trade, but you'd have to add substantially in the MIN trade, Brodin is one of the best LHD in the league
15 févr. 2020 à 22 h 30
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Brodin is one of the best LHD in the league


What?
Where did that assessment suddenly come from?

He's good... a #3 guy on most teams though. He's the main trade target on this website right now but that shouldn't inflate his value. He costs about the same as Faulk did.
15 févr. 2020 à 22 h 33
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What?
Where did that assessment suddenly come from?

He's good... a #3 guy on most teams though. He's the main trade target on this website right now but that shouldn't inflate his value. He costs about the same as Faulk did.


He is and has been one of the best shut down guys for years... That's all over been seeing is people saying that on here lol, and everyone seems to be offering substantially more (rightfully so imo)... And Faulk is terribly overrated, CAR absolutely fleeceed them, but that's not the point of this post lol
15 févr. 2020 à 22 h 35
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He is and has been one of the best shut down guys for years... That's all over been seeing is people saying that on here lol, and everyone seems to be offering substantially more (rightfully so imo)... And Faulk is terribly overrated, CAR absolutely fleeceed them, but that's not the point of this post lol


I'm willing to add more to the deal. Something along the lines of Wallmark or a 2nd or a B prospect.... but I don't see Brodin as "one of the best defensemen in the league"
15 févr. 2020 à 22 h 38
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I'm willing to add more to the deal. Something along the lines of Wallmark or a 2nd or a B prospect.... but I don't see Brodin as "one of the best defensemen in the league"


One of the best is a stretch, and I said LHD, depends on what your definition of one of the best is, I'd put him in the same tier as a guy like Lindholm in ANA tho
15 févr. 2020 à 22 h 43
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One of the best is a stretch, and I said LHD, depends on what your definition of one of the best is, I'd put him in the same tier as a guy like Lindholm in ANA tho


These might be fantasy ratings and aren't entirely useful in judging how good a defenseman is, but Brodin doesn't appear on this top 50 list.

https://www.nhl.com/news/nhl-fantasy-hockey-top-50-defenseman-rankings-2019-20/c-282830728?tid=277729150

I would say he is a top 50 defenseman in the league, but in the late range of it. Kinda that Esa Lindell / Orlov territory. Valuable, yes, but nothing to spend a mini fortune on. This is essentially the same deal that NYR got for Trouba. Fleury this year is similar to what Pionk was last year. Basing it off this deal (yes i know there's other circumstances here)... and the Faulk deal, I find it hard to see much more going back to MIN (again, I'd add similar to what i mentioned in the previous post)
15 févr. 2020 à 22 h 57
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These might be fantasy ratings and aren't entirely useful in judging how good a defenseman is, but Brodin doesn't appear on this top 50 list.

https://www.nhl.com/news/nhl-fantasy-hockey-top-50-defenseman-rankings-2019-20/c-282830728?tid=277729150

I would say he is a top 50 defenseman in the league, but in the late range of it. Kinda that Esa Lindell / Orlov territory. Valuable, yes, but nothing to spend a mini fortune on. This is essentially the same deal that NYR got for Trouba. Fleury this year is similar to what Pionk was last year. Basing it off this deal (yes i know there's other circumstances here)... and the Faulk deal, I find it hard to see much more going back to MIN (again, I'd add similar to what i mentioned in the previous post)


He's a DFD, he'll never find his name on a fantasy list (as you said) but your two comparable made me laugh for a second... Orlov has had an almost Norris level year defensively, and Lindell... Meh, decent number 4 guy, also both Trouba and Faulk are overrated and bad comps for a Brodin trade as they are both more offensively minded d men
15 févr. 2020 à 23 h 11
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He's a DFD, he'll never find his name on a fantasy list (as you said) but your two comparable made me laugh for a second... Orlov has had an almost Norris level year defensively, and Lindell... Meh, decent number 4 guy, also both Trouba and Faulk are overrated and bad comps for a Brodin trade as they are both more offensively minded d men


Alright then, I'll go closer to home in saying Edler is the right comparable. (Edler made the fantasy list for a good bit last year and all of this year). If Vancouver was unable to sign Edler last year and was offered this trade, As a canucks fan I'd take it.

It's always hard to evaluate defensemen. I don't see anyone throwing a king's ransom at Brodin, but neither will the wild give him off for nothing. Hard to find that sweet spot. Time will tell.
 
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