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VAN and MIN Trades

Créé par: GFD1996
Date de création initiale: fév 15, 2020
Publié: Feb 15 at 4:36 pm
Équipe: 2019-20 Maple Leafs de Toronto
Transactions
TOR
  1. Tanev, Christopher
  2. Leivo, Josh
Détails additionnels:
Tanev: Expiring Deal, TOR native, provides shut down ability for Leafs and Sandin and Rielly can over take PP duties

Leivo: perhaps a sign and trade situation
VAN
  1. Barrie, Tyson
  2. Kapanen, Kasperi
Détails additionnels:
Barrie: Expiring Deal, VAN native, and can help push for playoffs

Kapanen: significant term left and would be a good add for VAN
TOR
  1. Foligno, Marcus
  2. Belpedio, Louis
  3. 2020 5e round pick (MIN)
MIN
  1. Ceci, Cody
  2. Dermott, Travis
  3. Johnsson, Andreas
  4. 2020 4e round pick (VGK)
Rachats de contrats
  • Mikhail Grabovski: 0 $
Transactions impliquant une retenue de salaire
  • Phil Kessel: 1 200 000 $ (15%)
  • Robin Lehner: 1 100 000 $ (22%)
ANNÉE DE REPÊCHAGERONDE 1RONDE 2RONDE 3RONDE 4RONDE 5RONDE 6RONDE 7
2020
TOR
TOR
MIN
TOR
CAR
COL
SJS
WPG
STL
2021
TOR
TOR
TOR
TOR
TOR
TOR
2022
TOR
TOR
TOR
TOR
TOR
TOR
TOR
TAILLE DE LA FORMATIONPLAFOND SALARIALCAP HITEXCÉDENTS BONISESPACE SOUS LE PLAFOND SALARIAL
2381 500 000 $79 891 310 $0 $470 000 $1 608 690 $
Ailier gaucheCentreAilier droit
TOR
Hyman, Zach
2 250 000 $
AG
NTC
UFA - 2
TOR
Matthews, Auston
11 634 000 $
C
UFA - 5
TOR
Marner, Mitchell
10 893 000 $
AD
UFA - 6
TOR
Mikheyev, Ilya
925 000 $
AG, AD
RFA - 1
TOR
Tavares, John
11 000 000 $
C
NMC
UFA - 6
TOR
Nylander, William
6 962 366 $
AD, AG
UFA - 5
MIN
Foligno, Marcus
2 875 000 $
AG, AD
UFA - 2
TOR
Kerfoot, Alexander
3 500 000 $
C, AG
UFA - 4
VAN
Leivo, Josh
1 500 000 $
AD, AG
UFA - 1
TOR
Clifford, Kyle
800 000 $
AG
UFA - 1
TOR
Spezza, Jason
700 000 $
C, AD
NTC
UFA - 1
TOR
Engvall, Pierre
925 000 $
AG, AD
RFA - 1
Défenseur gaucherDéfenseur droitierGardien de but
TOR
Rielly, Morgan
5 000 000 $
DG
UFA - 3
VAN
Tanev, Christopher
4 450 000 $
DD
NTC
UFA - 1
TOR
Andersen, Frederik
5 000 000 $
G
NTC
UFA - 2
TOR
Muzzin, Jake
4 000 000 $
DG
UFA - 1
TOR
Liljegren, Timothy
863 333 $
DD
RFA - 3
TOR
Campbell, Jack
675 000 $
G
UFA - 1
TOR
Sandin, Rasmus
894 167 $
DG
RFA - 3
TOR
Holl, Justin
675 000 $
DD
UFA - 1
Laissés de côtéListe des blessés (IR)Liste des blessés à long terme (LTIR)
TOR
Gauthier, Frédérik
675 000 $
C
RFA - 1
TOR
Horton, Nathan
5 300 000 $
AD
NMC NTC
UFA - 1
TOR
Marincin, Martin
700 000 $
DG
UFA - 1
TOR
Clarkson, David
5 250 000 $
AD
NMC NTC
UFA - 1
TOR
Timashov, Dmytro
694 444 $
AG
RFA - 1

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15 fév à 16 h 50
#1
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I have no clue on Belpedio's worth right now. He'll be waiver eligible next season. Johnsson is an odd fit for the Wild.
15 fév à 16 h 56
#2
Not a burger anymore
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TOR loses both moves, easily...
Sign_em_up000000 a aimé ceci.
15 fév à 18 h 15
#3
Canucks
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Quoting: BurgerBoss
TOR loses both moves, easily...


Replace Leivo with Virtanen and Id say its fair. But then again why trade two guys who fit the roster on and off the ice so well for two guys who might not?

The Canucks might not go for it depending on how much Barrie wants. Especially since Tanev compliments Hughes so well.
15 fév à 18 h 50
#4
Démarrer sujet
Gio's Leafs
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Quoting: BurgerBoss
TOR loses both moves, easily...


Tanev >>> Barrie
Kap and Leivo =
Foligno >>> Johnsson

Dermott surplus... but go off
15 fév à 18 h 58
#5
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Quoting: GFD1996
Tanev >>> Barrie
Kap and Leivo =
Foligno >>> Johnsson

Dermott surplus... but go off


Barrie = Tanev
Kap >> Leivo
Johnsson >> Foligno
Dermott >>>>>>>> Belpedio
15 fév à 19 h 47
#6
Rejoint: fév 2017
Messages: 66
Mentions "j'aime": 5
Quoting: BurgerBoss
Barrie = Tanev
Kap >> Leivo
Johnsson >> Foligno
Dermott >>>>>>>> Belpedio

tanev>>Barrie
kap>>leivo
think it's pretty equal

van probably says no cause of how well tanman and Hughes play together even if kap would be the perfect winger for bo
15 fév à 19 h 56
#7
Not a burger anymore
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Quoting: Tjmac22
tanev>>Barrie
kap>>leivo
think it's pretty equal

van probably says no cause of how well tanman and Hughes play together even if kap would be the perfect winger for bo


Tanev seems good for you only because he plays well with Hughes.

Doesn't mean he carries value for TOR any more than Barrie.

For them, Tanev's no upgrade from Barrie, so ofc they're not doing the trade.
15 fév à 20 h 33
#8
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Quoting: BurgerBoss
Tanev seems good for you only because he plays well with Hughes.

Doesn't mean he carries value for TOR any more than Barrie.

For them, Tanev's no upgrade from Barrie, so ofc they're not doing the trade.


see that's where your wrong tanev has been really good for along time not just since hes been playing with hughes hes made pretty well every dman hes played with better the only knock on him is the injuries and he would be an immediate upgrade on actually playing defense for Toronto's tire fire of a backend dont get me wrong they can put up points but there trash at helping keeping pucks out of their own net which is exactly what makes tanev so valuable
15 fév à 20 h 44
#9
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Quoting: Tjmac22
see that's where your wrong tanev has been really good for along time not just since hes been playing with hughes hes made pretty well every dman hes played with better the only knock on him is the injuries and he would be an immediate upgrade on actually playing defense for Toronto's tire fire of a backend dont get me wrong they can put up points but there trash at helping keeping pucks out of their own net which is exactly what makes tanev so valuable


He'd probably make their defense better, but not that much they'd move Kappy for it.

Offensively Barrie and Kappy brings almost twice what Tanev and Leivo does. That's also important for a full-offense team.

Defense is important for them, but they should not get that much weaker offensively to upgrade defense just a little.
15 fév à 21 h 06
#10
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15 fév à 21 h 07
#11
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Quoting: BurgerBoss
He'd probably make their defense better, but not that much they'd move Kappy for it.

Offensively Barrie and Kappy brings almost twice what Tanev and Leivo does. That's also important for a full-offense team.

Defense is important for them, but they should not get that much weaker offensively to upgrade defense just a little.


so was just looking at stats and some analytics
kappy and leivo almost equal slight edge to kappy 
barrie way better offense (not as bad defensively as I thought)
tanev much better defense his points probably stacked a bit playing with hughes so it really comes down to what you value higher defense or offense I've changed my mind a bit after research 
kap>=leivo 
barrie>=tanman 
so all in all probably bad for tor but it's not as far off as some would suggest 
side note would you consider 
ceci and kap for tanman?
justaBoss a aimé ceci.
15 fév à 21 h 35
#12
Not a burger anymore
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Quoting: Tjmac22
so was just looking at stats and some analytics
kappy and leivo almost equal slight edge to kappy 
barrie way better offense (not as bad defensively as I thought)
tanev much better defense his points probably stacked a bit playing with hughes so it really comes down to what you value higher defense or offense I've changed my mind a bit after research 
kap>=leivo 
barrie>=tanman 
so all in all probably bad for tor but it's not as far off as some would suggest 
side note would you consider 
ceci and kap for tanman?


Nah. Ceci is on LTIR for the major part of the season and it's not ideal to move a good contract mid-6 winger for pending UFA D.
15 fév à 22 h 00
#13
Rejoint: fév 2017
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Quoting: BurgerBoss
Nah. Ceci is on LTIR for the major part of the season and it's not ideal to move a good contract mid-6 winger for pending UFA D.


ahhh didnt realize he was ltir only reason I suggested cause I knew how bad he has been thought it might offset the value of kap and tanny
justaBoss a aimé ceci.
 
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