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Créé par: RalphMac
Équipe: 2019-20 Wild du Minnesota
Date de création initiale: 15 févr. 2020
Publié: 15 févr. 2020
Mode - plafond salarial: Basique
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Before I get shredded on STL, not a genuine serious deal. Went to highschool with Reinke and he is a solid prospect waiting for his moment, and I get not wanted to give up picks, but its not a serious trade. MTL is basically a counter to trading brodin, as best as i could.
Dumba has an incredibly high ceiling, but lacks on the defensive side of the game, also has a higher cap hit than brodin with term. Not sure how high MTL is on weiss, but in my eyes he is a cap dumb-esque portion of the deal
Transactions
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STL
  1. Hunt, Brad
  2. Weise, Dale (1 000 000 $ retained)
  3. Choix de 5e ronde en 2021 (MIN)
Rachats de contrats
Transactions impliquant une retenue de salaire
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2020
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2021
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2022
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TAILLE DE LA FORMATIONPLAFOND SALARIALCAP HITEXCÉDENTS Info-bulleBONISESPACE SOUS LE PLAFOND SALARIAL
2281 500 000 $68 601 923 $0 $1 950 000 $12 898 077 $
Ailier gaucheCentreAilier droit
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7 538 462 $7 538 462 $
AG
NMC
UFA - 6
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3 150 000 $3 150 000 $
C, AD
UFA - 1
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3 000 000 $3 000 000 $
AD, AG
UFA - 2
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2 875 000 $2 875 000 $
AD, AG
UFA - 2
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1 487 500 $1 487 500 $
C
UFA - 2
Logo de Wild du Minnesota
925 000 $925 000 $ (Bonis de performance600 000 $$600K)
AD, C
RFA - 1
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4 900 000 $4 900 000 $
AG, C, AD
UFA - 1
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1 625 000 $1 625 000 $
C
M-NTC
UFA - 2
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6 000 000 $6 000 000 $
AD, AG
NMC
UFA - 5
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916 666 $916 666 $ (Bonis de performance500 000 $$500K)
AG, AD
UFA - 1
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5 500 000 $5 500 000 $
C
NMC
UFA - 1
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1 900 000 $1 900 000 $
C, AD
UFA - 2
Défenseur gaucherDéfenseur droitierGardien de but
Logo de Wild du Minnesota
7 538 462 $7 538 462 $
DG
NMC
UFA - 6
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5 187 500 $5 187 500 $
DD
NMC
UFA - 1
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2 166 667 $2 166 667 $
G
M-NTC
UFA - 2
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4 166 667 $4 166 667 $
DG
UFA - 2
Logo de Wild du Minnesota
750 000 $750 000 $
DG/DD
UFA - 1
Logo de Wild du Minnesota
785 000 $785 000 $
G
UFA - 3
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2 250 000 $2 250 000 $
DD
UFA - 2
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748 333 $748 333 $
DG/DD
UFA - 1
Laissés de côtéListe des blessés (IR)Liste des blessés à long terme (LTIR)
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925 000 $925 000 $ (Bonis de performance850 000 $$850K)
C, AG
UFA - 2
Logo de Wild du Minnesota
716 666 $716 666 $
D
UFA - 1

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15 févr. 2020 à 11 h 52
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AWFUL for MTL.
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15 févr. 2020 à 12 h 9
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Not at all, from trades I have seen, and russo (wild reporter) suggests, dumba would nab you domi plus (which in this case is mete), donato is on the uptick, and anas is playing his best hockey and LEADING the ahl in points. Mete is a decent prospect defensively and Poehling is someone we havent seen (or at least I havent) much of yet. Time will tell

dumba for domi, mete
anas donato, pick - poehling
weiss cap dump for MTL
15 févr. 2020 à 12 h 12
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AWFUL for MTL.


look at @BarDownski latest post, he IMO is valuing dumba even higher than I am
15 févr. 2020 à 12 h 16
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Not at all, from trades I have seen, and russo (wild reporter) suggests, dumba would nab you domi plus (which in this case is mete), donato is on the uptick, and anas is playing his best hockey and LEADING the ahl in points. Mete is a decent prospect defensively and Poehling is someone we havent seen (or at least I havent) much of yet. Time will tell

dumba for domi, mete
anas donato, pick - poehling
weiss cap dump for MTL


Nope. You got it all wrong. MIN fans and experts vastly overestimate Dumba. The guy's fragile and he isn't having a great season anyway. He' a number 2 d-man at best. So you say that MTL should give up a 4th d-man + a 1st line winger for a d-man injured all the time??? And MTL gets weaker on the left side, which is already a major weakness??? Dude stop.

Plus Anas is 26, Dnnato is a 3rd liner and a 5th is pretty much worth nothing. Peohling is worth much more than that.
And MTL isn't desperate to get rid of Weise, it's not like he has a 6 year term with a 4 mil cap hit

Bergevin passes, and it's a pretty easy decision.
15 févr. 2020 à 12 h 32
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Nope. You got it all wrong. MIN fans and experts vastly overestimate Dumba. The guy's fragile and he isn't having a great season anyway. He' a number 2 d-man at best. So you say that MTL should give up a 4th d-man + a 1st line winger for a d-man injured all the time??? And MTL gets weaker on the left side, which is already a major weakness??? Dude stop.

Plus Anas is 26, Dnnato is a 3rd liner and a 5th is pretty much worth nothing. Peohling is worth much more than that.
And MTL isn't desperate to get rid of Weise, it's not like he has a 6 year term with a 4 mil cap hit

Bergevin passes, and it's a pretty easy decision.


Don't know where you are getting dumba being "fragile" and "always hurt" only time in his career he missed substantial time was last year tearing his pec fighting the rat that is tkatchuk(where he put up 22 pts in 32 games before missing the whole season). Poehling isn't as exciting as MTL fans view him, IMO, 14 pts in over 60 games this year from a top prospect.
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Don't know where you are getting dumba being "fragile" and "always hurt" only time in his career he missed substantial time was last year tearing his pec fighting the rat that is tkatchuk(where he put up 22 pts in 32 games before missing the whole season). Poehling isn't as exciting as MTL fans view him, IMO, 14 pts in over 60 games this year from a top prospect.


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Don't know where you are getting dumba being "fragile" and "always hurt" only time in his career he missed substantial time was last year tearing his pec fighting the rat that is tkatchuk(where he put up 22 pts in 32 games before missing the whole season). Poehling isn't as exciting as MTL fans view him, IMO, 14 pts in over 60 games this year from a top prospect.


Ah yes so a player around 20 year old has to put u¸p top 6 numbers in order to be considered «great»?

By this standard, J.Hughes and K.Kakko aren't gonna be great player because they seem to struggle a bit?

No. That's BS. Poehling is worth a mid to late 1st rounder. Easily.
15 févr. 2020 à 13 h 42
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Donato and Anas bring nothing different to Mtl. If Mete is ever traded it will be for an upgrade like Brodin. Unless fans accept a deal like Domi + Mete + Poehling for Dumba + Brodin, or a straight up Domi/Dumba swap.
15 févr. 2020 à 14 h 44
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Donato and Anas bring nothing different to Mtl. If Mete is ever traded it will be for an upgrade like Brodin. Unless fans accept a deal like Domi + Mete + Poehling for Dumba + Brodin, or a straight up Domi/Dumba swap.


You are heavily underestimating Brodin’s value in that, add a 2nd and I’d say yes.
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Russo is a homer of a beat writer, and even he doesn't think Dumba will get the return needed to trade him this year.

The ask from MN will be high and they won't come down much from it. They don't need to trade Dumba; their cap space is fine, they don't have anyone pushing him out of the lineup, and the team is probably better with him than without him. They just put the price tag out there for what it would take for them to trade him. If no team meets the trade demands then he says in MN another year.
 
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