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Potential Dumba Targets

Créé par: BLIvingston33
Date de création initiale: fév 13, 2020
Publié: Feb 13 at 5:07 pm
Équipe: 2020-21 Wild du Minnesota
Explications
I might be missing some, and not saying all of these are 1 for 1 deals, just guys the Wild should be targeting.
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  1. Krebs, Peyton
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  1. Kotkaniemi, Jesperi
  2. Domi, Max [Droits de RFA]
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    1. Cirelli, Anthony [Droits de RFA]
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      2. Necas, Martin
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        1. Strome, Dylan [Droits de RFA]
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          13 fév à 17 h 11
          #1
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          Kotkaniemi > Dumba
          13 fév à 17 h 26
          #2
          Go Wings Go
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          Tampa is the very last team, That can afford Dumba @ 3 x 6 Cap hell is upon them.
          13 fév à 17 h 27
          #3
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          Quoting: DiehardRedWingsFan58
          Tampa is the very last team, That can afford Dumba @ 3 x 6 Cap hell is upon them.


          I posted a scenario last night where the Wild retain 50% on him, would be tricky but would work with other moves.
          13 fév à 17 h 34
          #4
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          Quoting: GMs
          Kotkaniemi > Dumba


          You mean the guy that got sent down to the AHL cause he had 8 points in 30+ games? .. yeah that says he's worth a whole lot. LOL
          13 fév à 17 h 35
          #5
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          No interest in Dumba going to Chi. He's not a guy I want to see 4 to 12 times (depending on Playoffs) a year on the other side of the ice.
          13 fév à 17 h 58
          #6
          MNBassman
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          Quoting: wabit
          No interest in Dumba going to Chi. He's not a guy I want to see 4 to 12 times (depending on Playoffs) a year on the other side of the ice.


          That’s such a lame reason for not making a trade!
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          13 fév à 18 h 13
          #7
          Banni
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          Quoting: GMs
          Kotkaniemi > Dumba


          Kk isn’t good
          13 fév à 18 h 24
          #8
          Hawks Fan
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          Strome for Dumba would be super interesting. I think Strome is a question mark as he’s in a slump this year plus injury. So is he a 50-60 point/yr center or is he a draft bust? It’s hard to tell. With Dumba you know what you’re getting.

          Hawks are full on the RD side though. Plus again De Haan and Seabrook are big unknowns. Are they LTIR forever or retiring or will they be healthy? If they’re both healthy next season then it’d be tough to find a spot for Dumba, though one should be made.
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          13 fév à 18 h 36
          #9
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          Quoting: Jco5ta5
          Strome for Dumba would be super interesting. I think Strome is a question mark as he’s in a slump this year plus injury. So is he a 50-60 point/yr center or is he a draft bust? It’s hard to tell. With Dumba you know what you’re getting.

          Hawks are full on the RD side though. Plus again De Haan and Seabrook are big unknowns. Are they LTIR forever or retiring or will they be healthy? If they’re both healthy next season then it’d be tough to find a spot for Dumba, though one should be made.


          Even with the slump, in a full season he's still on pace for over 50 points this year. How much ice-time does he get? Because on the Wild he'd be the number 2 center for sure, possibly even number one.
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          13 fév à 19 h 00
          #10
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          Domi + pick for Dumba
          13 fév à 19 h 17
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          Quoting: Ryminister_27
          You mean the guy that got sent down to the AHL cause he had 8 points in 30+ games? .. yeah that says he's worth a whole lot. LOL


          Quoting: Jacer18
          Kk isn’t good


          Draisaitl had 9 (NINE) points at 19 yo in the NHL Kotkaniemi was a project, he was supposed to be ready in 2021-2022 but due to lack of centers Kotkaniemi made the team in 2018 as a 18 yo kid AND register ****ing 34 points at 18 yo !! This year he had Nick Cousins and Jordan Weal for wingers = garbage. Why is Kotkaniemi down in the minor ? Because Danault Suzuki & Domi are all playing centers and Domi doesn’t want to play LW. So Kotkaniemi and Poehling are playing with Laval. Again, Draisaitl had 9 points at 19 yo with 2 goals, Kotkaniemi have 6 goals
          13 fév à 19 h 23
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          Quoting: BLIvingston33
          Even with the slump, in a full season he's still on pace for over 50 points this year. How much ice-time does he get? Because on the Wild he'd be the number 2 center for sure, possibly even number one.

          I’d have to look it up but my guess is 16-18 minutes. Beginning half of the season up until the injury he was 2C with Debrincat on LW and a rotation on RW (mostly Kane) and was on first power play unit. He’s usually the guy in front of the net on the PP.
          13 fév à 19 h 23
          #13
          Banni
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          Quoting: GMs
          Draisaitl had 9 (NINE) points at 19 yo in the NHL Kotkaniemi was a project, he was supposed to be ready in 2021-2022 but due to lack of centers Kotkaniemi made the team in 2018 as a 18 yo kid AND register ****ing 34 points at 18 yo !! This year he had Nick Cousins and Jordan Weal for wingers = garbage. Why is Kotkaniemi down in the minor ? Because Danault Suzuki & Domi are all playing centers and Domi doesn’t want to play LW. So Kotkaniemi and Poehling are playing with Laval. Again, Draisaitl had 9 points at 19 yo with 2 goals, Kotkaniemi have 6 goals


          Funny you compare them to draisaitl smh
          13 fév à 19 h 36
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          Quoting: MNBassman
          That’s such a lame reason for not making a trade!


          I'm also not sold on Strome. Is he as good as him stats or are the a byproduct of his linemates? When I watch him I think of Kerfoot, a really nice 3C, but not a guy that's a top-6 center.

          You lose a trade like this in your Division and it'll bite you for years. NSH must be kicking themselves for the Granny/Fiala swap. The Nino trade sucked for MN, but they only have to see him twice a year
          13 fév à 19 h 50
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          Quoting: Jacer18
          Funny you compare them to draisaitl smh


          But I got a point, Kotkaniemi will never be good like Draisaitl but saying he only got 8 points so far at 19 yo and saying he’s not good is ridiculous
          13 fév à 20 h 06
          #16
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          Quoting: GMs
          Draisaitl had 9 (NINE) points at 19 yo in the NHL Kotkaniemi was a project, he was supposed to be ready in 2021-2022 but due to lack of centers Kotkaniemi made the team in 2018 as a 18 yo kid AND register ****ing 34 points at 18 yo !! This year he had Nick Cousins and Jordan Weal for wingers = garbage. Why is Kotkaniemi down in the minor ? Because Danault Suzuki & Domi are all playing centers and Domi doesn’t want to play LW. So Kotkaniemi and Poehling are playing with Laval. Again, Draisaitl had 9 points at 19 yo with 2 goals, Kotkaniemi have 6 goals


          sounds like you're quite the homer.
          13 fév à 20 h 07
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          Quoting: Ryminister_27
          sounds like you're quite the homer.


          I’m saying he’s good, and 4 years of Dumba isn’t worth Kotkaniemi
          13 fév à 20 h 11
          #18
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          Quoting: GMs
          I’m saying he’s good, and 4 years of Dumba isn’t worth Kotkaniemi


          saying a guy for your favourite team is good when he just got demoted to the AHL and that he's worth more than a consistent NHL player... yup. You're a homer.

          Kotkaniemi will never be more than a 2C.. probably a really good 3C that can fill in at 2C but he'll never be top line material. Those types of guys aren't as valuable as you think
          13 fév à 20 h 20
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          MNBassman
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          Quoting: wabit
          I'm also not sold on Strome. Is he as good as him stats or are the a byproduct of his linemates? When I watch him I think of Kerfoot, a really nice 3C, but not a guy that's a top-6 center.

          You lose a trade like this in your Division and it'll bite you for years. NSH must be kicking themselves for the Granny/Fiala swap. The Nino trade sucked for MN, but they only have to see him twice a year


          I’m not sold on Strome either, but if I was, I wouldn’t care one bit Chicago is in the same division! Confident and competent GMs should never care about who they are trading with!
          13 fév à 20 h 21
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          Quoting: MNBassman
          I’m not sold on Strome either, but if I was, I wouldn’t care one bit Chicago is in the same division! Confident and competent GMs should never care about who they are trading with!


          Unless you’re giving a team fighting with you for a playoff spot a rental, that is the only time you avoid divisional trades
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          13 fév à 20 h 23
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          MNBassman
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          Quoting: BLIvingston33
          Unless you’re giving a team fighting with you for a playoff spot a rental, that is the only time you avoid divisional trades


          True
          13 fév à 20 h 44
          #22
          VGKNation702
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          Dont see a way VGK gives up Krebs. He was a steal where they got him and have almost no center depth in the wings waiting.
          13 fév à 20 h 48
          #23
          Banni
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          Quoting: GMs
          But I got a point, Kotkaniemi will never be good like Draisaitl but saying he only got 8 points so far at 19 yo and saying he’s not good is ridiculous


          But he isn’t..
          13 fév à 21 h 00
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          Quoting: Ryminister_27
          saying a guy for your favourite team is good when he just got demoted to the AHL and that he's worth more than a consistent NHL player... yup. You're a homer.

          Kotkaniemi will never be more than a 2C.. probably a really good 3C that can fill in at 2C but he'll never be top line material. Those types of guys aren't as valuable as you think


          3C lmao
          13 fév à 21 h 20
          #25
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          Quoting: GMs
          3C lmao


          still a homer.. lmao
           
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