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Offer Sheet Cirelli Plus More

Créé par: BLIvingston33
Date de création initiale: fév 13, 2020
Publié: Feb 13 at 1:17 pm
Équipe: 2020-21 Wild du Minnesota
Signatures de joueurs autonomes
LISTE DE RÉSERVEANNÉESCAP HIT
Kaprizov, Kirill2925 000 $
RFAANNÉESCAP HIT
Soucy, Carson43 000 000 $
Kunin, Luke32 500 000 $
Greenway, Jordan22 500 000 $
Cirelli, Anthony56 250 000 $
UFAANNÉESCAP HIT
Markström, Jacob55 000 000 $
Offres hostiles
Le salaire annuel moyen (AAV) de l'offre hostile est calculé en divisant la valeur totale du contrat par: 1. La durée totale du contrat, ou 2. Cinq ans
JOUEURAAVCOMPENSATION
Cirelli, Anthony6 250 000 $
Choix de 1e ronde en 2021
Choix de 3e ronde en 2021
Transactions
MIN
  1. Suzuki, Ryan
  2. Gardiner, Jake
  3. 2020 1e round pick (CAR)
CAR
  1. Dumba, Matt
MIN
  1. McElhinney, Curtis
Détails additionnels:
This saves Tampa $700,000 that they'll probably need to add another player
TBL
  1. Stalock, Alex
MIN
  1. 2021 3e round pick (WPG)
WPG
  1. Hunt, Brad
MIN
  1. 2021 4e round pick (TOR)
TOR
  1. Hartman, Ryan
MIN
  1. 2021 2e round pick (EDM)
EDM
  1. Donato, Ryan
Rachats de contrats
  • Devan Dubnyk: 2 666 666 $
  • Victor Rask: 1 333 333 $
ANNÉE DE REPÊCHAGERONDE 1RONDE 2RONDE 3RONDE 4RONDE 5RONDE 6RONDE 7
2020
MIN
PIT
CAR
MIN
MIN
MIN
MIN
MIN
2021
EDM
MIN
WPG
MIN
TOR
MIN
MIN
MIN
2022
MIN
MIN
MIN
MIN
MIN
MIN
MIN
TAILLE DE LA FORMATIONPLAFOND SALARIALCAP HITEXCÉDENTS BONISESPACE SOUS LE PLAFOND SALARIAL
2181 500 000 $77 782 754 $0 $190 000 $3 717 246 $
Ailier gaucheCentreAilier droit
MIN
Fiala, Kevin
3 000 000 $
AG
RFA - 1
Cirelli, Anthony
6 250 000 $
C
RFA
MIN
Kaprizov, Kirill
925 000 $
AG, AD
RFA
MIN
Parise, Zach
7 538 461 $
AG
NMC
UFA - 5
MIN
Staal, Eric
3 250 000 $
C
NTC
UFA - 1
MIN
Zuccarello, Mats
6 000 000 $
AD
NMC
UFA - 4
MIN
Khovanov, Alexander
842 500 $
C
RFA - 2
MIN
Eriksson Ek, Joel
1 487 500 $
C
RFA - 1
MIN
Kunin, Luke
2 500 000 $
AD, C
RFA
MIN
Greenway, Jordan
2 500 000 $
AG
RFA
CAR
Suzuki, Ryan
925 000 $
C
RFA - 2
MIN
Foligno, Marcus
2 875 000 $
AG, AD
UFA - 1
Défenseur gaucherDéfenseur droitierGardien de but
MIN
Suter, Ryan
7 538 461 $
DG
NMC
UFA - 5
MIN
Spurgeon, Jared
7 575 000 $
DD
NMC
UFA - 7
Markström, Jacob
5 000 000 $
G
UFA
MIN
Brodin, Jonas
4 166 667 $
DG
UFA - 1
MIN
Addison, Calen
809 166 $
DD
RFA - 2
TBL
McElhinney, Curtis
1 300 000 $
G
UFA - 1
CAR
Gardiner, Jake
4 050 000 $
DG
NTC
UFA - 3
MIN
Soucy, Carson
3 000 000 $
D
UFA
Laissés de côtéListe des blessés (IR)Liste des blessés à long terme (LTIR)
MIN
Pateryn, Greg
2 250 000 $
DD
UFA - 1

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13 fév à 13 h 20
#1
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I mean this is great until you realize you’re paying Anthony Cirelli 7 million a season for 6 years
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13 fév à 13 h 20
#2
exo2769
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Make it $6M for 5 years. Keep the 2nd rounder.
13 fév à 13 h 20
#3
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I think Gardiner is too big of an add with Suzuki and the 1st. Gardiner gets a ton of shade but I think he's really a solid player and his contract is fine. Apparently he's also sort of found a home in Carolina with Hamilton out. I wouldn't mind offer sheeting Cirelli at all but that's too much for him IMO.
13 fév à 13 h 24
#4
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Quoting: TanSor
I think Gardiner is too big of an add with Suzuki and the 1st. Gardiner gets a ton of shade but I think he's really a solid player and his contract is fine. Apparently he's also sort of found a home in Carolina with Hamilton out. I wouldn't mind offer sheeting Cirelli at all but that's too much for him IMO.


I took it down a notch
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13 fév à 13 h 30
#5
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Quoting: exo2769
Make it $6M for 5 years. Keep the 2nd rounder.


You're right, I made it 6.25 for 5 years and he's an RFA again after that too
13 fév à 13 h 43
#6
Bcarlo25
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Quoting: BLIvingston33
You're right, I made it 6.25 for 5 years and he's an RFA again after that too


Ufa after that. He’d be a ufa if it was a 4 year deal even.
13 fév à 13 h 45
#7
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Quoting: Bcarlo25
Ufa after that. He’d be a ufa if it was a 4 year deal even.


Long term outlook lists him as an RFA
13 fév à 13 h 48
#8
Bcarlo25
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Quoting: BLIvingston33
Long term outlook lists him as an RFA


It’s wrong. It’s a bug. 7 years of pro service? Ufa.
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13 fév à 13 h 48
#9
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Quoting: BLIvingston33
Long term outlook lists him as an RFA


its wrong. his birthday is july 1997. he will be 23 this year. he will turn 27 going into his final year. he would be an rfa on a 4 year deal since he turns 27 after ufa starts.
13 fév à 13 h 49
#10
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Quoting: Bcarlo25
It’s wrong. It’s a bug. 7 years of pro service? Ufa.


this too lol.
13 fév à 13 h 49
#11
KFTW
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Quoting: linehan10
I mean this is great until you realize you’re paying Anthony Cirelli 7 million a season for 6 years


Cirelli is better than Hayes, younger and better defensively
13 fév à 13 h 50
#12
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Quoting: Bcarlo25
It’s wrong. It’s a bug. 7 years of pro service? Ufa.


Oh okay I thought he would only be at 6 years, didn't realize he has played so much, good to know there's a bug to watch out for.
13 fév à 13 h 50
#13
Bcarlo25
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Quoting: hanson493
its wrong. his birthday is july 1997. he will be 23 this year. he will turn 27 going into his final year. he would be an rfa on a 4 year deal since he turns 27 after ufa starts.


This is also wrong. He would be a ufa after signing for four years.
13 fév à 13 h 51
#14
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Quoting: hanson493
its wrong. his birthday is july 1997. he will be 23 this year. he will turn 27 going into his final year. he would be an rfa on a 4 year deal since he turns 27 after ufa starts.


You're right, maybe you load up a 4 year deal then to get him as an RFA again. Interesting.
13 fév à 13 h 52
#15
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Quoting: Bcarlo25
This is also wrong. He would be a ufa after signing for four years.


No it's actually right, his birthday is after July 1st and he would be at 6 nhl seasons and be 26 after a 4 year deal. RFA.
13 fév à 13 h 52
#16
Bcarlo25
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Quoting: BLIvingston33
Oh okay I thought he would only be at 6 years, didn't realize he has played so much, good to know there's a bug to watch out for.


For like 97% of guys, if they’re signing a 3 year deal or below coming off their entry level, they’re rfa. Anything above 3 and they’re ufa. Add up the years they’ve spent playing pro hockey. If it’s 7+ at the end of the real, they’re ufa.
13 fév à 13 h 54
#17
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Quoting: csick
Cirelli is better than Hayes, younger and better defensively


The Hayes contract is awful too and kinda was from the jump tbh
13 fév à 13 h 55
#18
Bcarlo25
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Quoting: BLIvingston33
No it's actually right, his birthday is after July 1st and he would be at 6 nhl seasons and be 26 after a 4 year deal. RFA.


Negative. 7 years pro service? Ufa. Don’t bring up Meier, there’s a difference here
13 fév à 13 h 57
#19
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Quoting: Bcarlo25
Negative. 7 years pro service? Ufa. Don’t bring up Meier, there’s a difference here


I just tested it by re-signing him in Tampa to a 4 year and he came up RFA at the end of it. That's not a bug. It's 7 years of NHL (not just pro) or 27 years old on July 1st.
13 fév à 13 h 58
#20
Bcarlo25
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Quoting: BLIvingston33
I just tested it by re-signing him in Tampa to a 4 year and he came up RFA at the end of it. That's not a bug. It's 7 years of NHL (not just pro) or 27 years old on July 1st.


Do it with every other player. It’s a bug. 7 years service? Ufa
13 fév à 13 h 59
#21
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Quoting: Bcarlo25
Do it with every other player. It’s a bug. 7 years service? Ufa


He would only be at 6 years. He only played 18 games the first year, you need to play 40 to burn an RFA season.

"A player becomes an Unrestricted Free Agent (UFA) if their current contract ends after either 7 Accrued Seasons or they are 27 or older as of June 30. An Accrued Season is defined as a year in which a skater is on an NHL roster for at least 40 games"
13 fév à 13 h 59
#22
KFTW
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Quoting: linehan10
The Hayes contract is awful too and kinda was from the jump tbh


Jordan Staal is making 6 mill. Cirelli for 5 years at 6.4 is a steal imo
13 fév à 14 h 01
#23
Bcarlo25
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Quoting: BLIvingston33
He would only be at 6 years. He only played 18 games the first year, you need to play 40 to burn an RFA season.


Not if you got those games in the ahl, which he did.

UFA after 4 years.
13 fév à 14 h 02
#24
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Quoting: Bcarlo25
Not if you got those games in the ahl, which he did.

UFA after 4 years.


it's NHL SEASONS man. This is the exact wording. "A player becomes an Unrestricted Free Agent (UFA) if their current contract ends after either 7 Accrued Seasons or they are 27 or older as of June 30. An Accrued Season is defined as a year in which a skater is on an NHL roster for at least 40 games"
13 fév à 14 h 07
#25
Bcarlo25
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Quoting: BLIvingston33
it's NHL SEASONS man. This is the exact wording. "A player becomes an Unrestricted Free Agent (UFA) if their current contract ends after either 7 Accrued Seasons or they are 27 or older as of June 30. An Accrued Season is defined as a year in which a skater is on an NHL roster for at least 40 games"


I can cite the exact section when I’m at my computer. He’s a ufa. There’s accrued seasons when it comes to ufa, entry, all sorts of other things. Also nhl rosters don’t have games, they have days. It’s a 186 day schedule I believe. If you want when I’m home I can get you the info. Remind me.

Take a look at mark stones hockeydb and tell me how he was scheduled to be a ufa when he signed with Vegas
 
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