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If Staal will waive his NMC PIT MIN WPG

Créé par: Caniac2000
Équipe: 2019-20 Hurricanes de la Caroline
Date de création initiale: 13 févr. 2020
Publié: 13 févr. 2020
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The J Staal trade.... the pick may be on the wrong side, I don't watch a lot of PIT admittedly, but analytically, Staal is the better player, sot the pick's from Pittsburgh.... idk about the value though?
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  2. Choix de 2e ronde en 2021 (PIT)
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  2. Suzuki, Ryan
  3. Choix de 1e ronde en 2020 (TOR)
  4. Choix de 2e ronde en 2020 (NYR)
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13 févr. 2020 à 6 h 44
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the penguins aren't taking Staal at 6 million. They don't have the cap space to do that. You'd have to retain a fair chunk of that.
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13 févr. 2020 à 7 h 15
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"If Staal waives his NMC"

Convo be like:

"Hey Eric, waive your NMC and come play for us. We'll even ask your brother to waive his NMC so we can trade him away"

LOL great logic.
13 févr. 2020 à 7 h 33
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the penguins aren't taking Staal at 6 million. They don't have the cap space to do that. You'd have to retain a fair chunk of that.


That's why Bjugstad is in the deal bud, it's a 1.1 mil increase, no rention needed. Staal gives them an upgrade at 3C
13 févr. 2020 à 7 h 33
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Quoting: Ryminister_27
"If Staal waives his NMC"

Convo be like:

"Hey Eric, waive your NMC and come play for us. We'll even ask your brother to waive his NMC so we can trade him away"

LOL great logic.


Eric has a modified no trade clause and I doubt Carolina is on it. It would be odd if they went this route, but they could pull it off if they kept their cards hidden...
13 févr. 2020 à 7 h 34
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Eric has a modified no trade clause and I doubt Carolina is on it. It would be odd if they went this route, but they could pull it off if they kept their cards hidden...


I assume Minnesota would be okay with a package like that for Brodin and the good staal?
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13 févr. 2020 à 7 h 34
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As for the Wild trade...the Wild would sign that deal before the ink dried!
13 févr. 2020 à 8 h 38
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There is no way the pens can take that 6m for next yr + ... Now w/ Zucker we will prob have to move out like 3-5m just to sign RFAs
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13 févr. 2020 à 8 h 50
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There is no way the pens can take that 6m for next yr + ... Now w/ Zucker we will prob have to move out like 3-5m just to sign RFAs


That's why Bjugstad's 4.9 is in the trade, it's not a big increase, and it's only 1.1 extra.....
13 févr. 2020 à 9 h 13
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Quoting: Caniac2000
That's why Bjugstad is in the deal bud, it's a 1.1 mil increase, no rention needed. Staal gives them an upgrade at 3C


Wrong - It's a 1.9 million increase friend. Staal is signed through 2023 vs. Bjugstad 2021 guy. No chance Pens acquire Staal bud
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13 févr. 2020 à 9 h 14
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That's why Bjugstad's 4.9 is in the trade, it's not a big increase, and it's only 1.1 extra.....


4.9... it's literally in your roster at 4.1 lmfao
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13 févr. 2020 à 9 h 14
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That's why Bjugstad is in the deal bud, it's a 1.1 mil increase, no rention needed. Staal gives them an upgrade at 3C


There is just all kinds of wrong with that. 6 - 4.1 = 1.9, not 1.1
Staal's contract is 2 years longer than Bjugstad's so the $1.9M difference only lasts for 1 year and 2 months while the $6M hit affects the Pens for two more years.

Staal is solid at faceoffs and good defensively, but non offensive and he is not worth $6M. Bjugstad's contract does not offset that.

Bjugstad, 2nd, 4th for J.Staal w/$1.5M retained.
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13 févr. 2020 à 9 h 18
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There is just all kinds of wrong with that. 6 - 4.1 = 1.9, not 1.1
Staal's contract is 2 years longer than Bjugstad's so the $1.9M difference only lasts for 1 year and 2 months while the $6M hit affects the Pens for two more years.

Staal is solid at faceoffs and good defensively, but non offensive and he is not worth $6M. Bjugstad's contract does not offset that.

Bjugstad, 2nd, 4th for J.Staal w/$1.5M retained.


Carolina aren't retaining. Instant no. JJ 50% retained, Bjugstad 2nd and 3rd for Staal
13 févr. 2020 à 9 h 19
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4.9... it's literally in your roster at 4.1 lmfao


Meh, I pressed the wrong button
13 févr. 2020 à 9 h 20
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Wrong - It's a 1.9 million increase friend. Staal is signed through 2023 vs. Bjugstad 2021 guy. No chance Pens acquire Staal bud


Ah, my friend. Staal was a penguin, and Bjugstad has been invisible as a 3C per many pens fans. Staal gives you attribued that no one else on Pittsburgh does guy, you'd be surprised bud.
13 févr. 2020 à 9 h 21
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Meh, I pressed the wrong button


3 times...
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13 févr. 2020 à 9 h 22
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Carolina aren't retaining. Instant no. JJ 50% retained, Bjugstad 2nd and 3rd for Staal


You don't have any idea how finances work do you? You are that great at simple math so I assume its a no.
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13 févr. 2020 à 9 h 26
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Ah, my friend. Staal was a penguin, and Bjugstad has been invisible as a 3C per many pens fans. Staal gives you attribued that no one else on Pittsburgh does guy, you'd be surprised bud.


As Staal was already a Penguin, as you pointed out, how would Penguin fans be surprised by what he brings?

In a 6 - 4.1 = 1.1 surprised kind of way?
Or in a everyone saying no to Bjugstad, 2nd for Staal, so you make it Bjugstad, 2nd, 3rd, Johnson 50% ret for Staal, surprised kind of way?
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13 févr. 2020 à 10 h 2
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No way the pens can afford Staals 6 million in year 3 and 4. Nor can they afford his 6 million on top of 1.625 million of JJ’s retained salary in years 3 and 4. You really don’t understand how the cap works, bud. But if the pens could get away with being over the cap, I’d be all for it 😂
13 févr. 2020 à 10 h 4
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3 times...


I just want to know what he is using that has the 9 next to the 1 lol.
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13 févr. 2020 à 10 h 5
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That's why Bjugstad is in the deal bud, it's a 1.1 mil increase, no rention needed. Staal gives them an upgrade at 3C


new math

anyway there are several people here trying to explain to you how math works so I'm just going to let this be.
13 févr. 2020 à 10 h 6
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No way the pens can afford Staals 6 million in year 3 and 4. Nor can they afford his 6 million on top of 1.625 million of JJ’s retained salary in years 3 and 4. You really don’t understand how the cap works, bud. But if the pens could get away with being over the cap, I’d be all for it 😂


Remembering that the cap is gonna go up, Pittsburgh are gonna lost Murray to Seattle, there's plenty of cap there. I know how the cap works, I live on this site, and they could afford it.... it's be tight, but by that point, even Geno may be gone
13 févr. 2020 à 10 h 7
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Quoting: pharrow
new math

anyway there are several people here trying to explain to you how math works so I'm just going to let this be.


I know how the math works, i hit the wrong button chill the **** out
13 févr. 2020 à 10 h 12
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Remembering that the cap is gonna go up, Pittsburgh are gonna lost Murray to Seattle, there's plenty of cap there. I know how the cap works, I live on this site, and they could afford it.... it's be tight, but by that point, even Geno may be gone


Except before Staals contract ends, McCann, Kahun, Simon, Jarry, Marino, Malkin, Letang, DeSmith, Blueger will need new contracts and most will get a raise, if not a significant raise. Not to mention the pens will then need to get a 3rd pair RHD cause Ruhwedel isn’t good enough to play in an everyday capacity.
13 févr. 2020 à 10 h 23
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I know how the math works, i hit the wrong button chill the **** out


if you are still arguing that the penguins can afford this, they you really don't.
They can't man. I'm just laying out the facts here. They don't have 6 million to drop on a center. Hell they probably need to dump Jugs for cap relief to be honest. We'll know come the off season when they have to sign those RFAs.
13 févr. 2020 à 10 h 48
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I know how the math works, i hit the wrong button chill the **** out


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